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I saw a documentary the other day that discussed the wreck Of the Edmund Fitzgerald. They theorized the ship hit some rocks which let water in and even though the bilge pumps could pump out enormous amounts of water, the icy storm was just to intense and waves poured in.
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![]() Here are the lyrics from a website that is a little messed up so I copied most of the page. It follows each line with an explanation. "The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee" Gitche Gumee translates roughly to "Shining Big-Sea-Water". "The lake it is said never gives up her dead when the skies of november turn gloomy" To put it rather bluntly, the reason so few bodies are recovered from off shore drownings in Lake Superior is because the bodies first tend to sink (or are still on board a vessel) but because of the depth and frigid temperatures, the victims do not naturally decompose. Because of the lack of oxygen producing organisms, the bodies remain on the bottom. "With a load of iron ore 26,000 tons more than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty" When empty, the Fitzgerald weighed 8,686 net tons. The hold was filled with 26,013 tons of iron ore pellets called taconite, used mainly for automobile production. "That good ship and true was a bone to be chewed when the gales of November came early" Lake superior is on average 533 feet deep with an extreme depth of 1333 feet. It is 400 miles long which, when the wind blows across it's length, the waves can build to greater heights than found on less dense sea water, even in hurricane winds. "The ship was the pride of the American side" The Fitz was named after a Milwaukee banker and was launched into the River Rouge basin in June 1958. The owner was Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance Company of Milwaukee and operated by Oglebay Norton. "Comin' back from some mill in Wisconsin" Superior, Wisconsin. "As the big freighters go it was bigger than most" The ship was 729 feet long, 75 feet wide, 39 feet deep. She was the largest Great Lakes steamer when launched in 1958, its size limited only by the largest lock on Sault St, Marie. Larger 1000 ft. boats were possible after the construction of the Poe lock in 1969. "With a crew and good captain well seasoned" Captain Ernest R. McSorley, 62 years old, started sailing as a deckhand on ocean vessels when he was 18 years old. After transferring to freshwater freighters, he made his way through the ranks, eventually becoming the youngest to make captain. "Concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms when they left fully loaded for Cleveland" The Fitzgerald was "downbound" to unload its cargo in Detroit and then continue on to Cleveland to dock for the winter months. "And later that night when the ship's bell rang could it be the north wind they'd bin feelin'" The Fitzgerald and the Anderson, a second freighter following close behind, knew of the gale warnings posted by the National Weather Service. They decided to alter their course and head towards the North shore of Superior for shelter against the heart of the storm. "The wind in the wires made a tattletale sound and a wave broke over the railing" The two boats (great lake sailors prefer "boat" to "ship"), followed the Canadian shore to the Caribou Island near "Six Fathom Shoals." The Anderson's captain Jesse "Bernie" Cooper, remarks how close the Fitz is to the shoals. Crossing the lake in an attempt to harbor the storm, the two make a course for Whitefish Bay Michigan. In heavy seas, the Fitzgerald sustains topside damage and radios the Anderson, "Anderson, this is the Fitzgerald. I have sustained some topside damage. I have a fence rail laid down, two vents lost or damaged, and a list. I'm checking down. Will you stay by me till I get to Whitefish?" "And every man knew as the captain did too, 'twas the witch of november come stealin'" The Fitzgerald has two radar sets but both use a common antenna. The Fitzgerald calls on the radio to the Arthur M. Anderson. "Anderson, this is the Fitzgerald. I have lost both radars. Can you provide me with radar plots till we reach Whitefish Bay?" "Charlie on that, Fitzgerald. We'll keep you advised of your position." "The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait when the gales of november came slashin'" Winds were 40 to 45 knots with waves to 20 ft. "When afternoon came it was freezin' rain in the face of a hurricane west wind" The Sault St, Marie Locks report winds of seventy knots, gusts up to eighty-two, about ninety-five mph! " When suppertime came the old cook came on deck sayin' "fellas it's too rough to feed ya" Ironically, the "old" cook was suffering from bleeding ulcers and was unable to make the last voyage. He is considered by some as "the sole survivor of the Fitzgerald". "At seven p.m. a main hatchway caved in he said "fellas it's been good to know ya" The Anderson reports being hit by two huge waves which go over the pilot house, 35 feet above the water line. "The captain wired in he had water comin' in and the good ship and crew was in peril" Although McSorley told the Anderson he had developed a list and was, infact, taking on water, his main concern was that because of the loss of radar and new reports of the Whitefish Bay Lighthouse being broken down, the Fitzgerald was sailing blind and due to the list, the Fitzgerald was pulling to the left. They had to rely on the Anderson for guidance. When the Anderson radioed back later to ask how they were doing with their problem, McSorley replied "We are holding our own". That was the last thing heard from the Fitzgerald. "And later that night when 'is lights went out of sight came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" The tremendous waves on Lake Superior kept interfering with the Anderson's radar, showing the Fitzgerald some 10 miles ahead of her. As the Anderson would dip with a large wave, the Fitzgerald and all other boats in the area would disappear, showing up again as the Anderson would crest. At 7:10 the Anderson rose above a wave and the radar showed three blips, saltwater ships, the Navafors, the Avafors, and the Benfri about 20 miles downbound. But no Fitzgerald. In the span of just a few seconds, with no distress call, the Fitzgerald was gone. "Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours" The Anderson contacted the Coast Guard in Sault St. Marie. "Soo Control, this is the Anderson. I am very concerned about the welfare of the steamer Edmund Fitzgerald. He was right in front of us, experiencing a little difficulty. He was taking on a small amount of water and none of the upbound ships have passed him. I can see no lights as before and I don't have him on radar. I just hope he didn't take a nose dive!" The air temperature at the time was 49 degrees and the water temperature was 40 degrees. Under these conditions a man would go into shock in 30 minutes. "The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay if they'd put fifteen more miles behind 'er" A floating debris field was found the next morning and a 1000 yard long oil slick about 13 miles from Whitefish Point. On later days, small objects were found near the Canadian shore, lifevests and rings, bottles, splintered wood, the largest object being a crumpled raft with the Fitzgerald's name. "They might have split up or they might have capsized they may have broke deep and took water" The wreckage is in two major pieces. The bow section is 276 feet long and upright. The stern section is 253 feet long and upside down. The sections are 170 feet apart. About 200 feet of the midsection is disintegrated. Although there is no conclusive evidence pointing to what the cause was, the most popular therory is that because the Fitz was taking on water, the taconite cargo shifted toward the bow making it unbalanced, heavy to the front. When the Fitz plunged into the valley between two large waves, she submarined to the bottom, striking the lake's floor with enough force to break her in two. "And all that remains is the faces and the names of the wives and the sons and the daughters" There has been no attempt by the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum at Whitefish Point, which had made several exploratory expeditions down to the werckage, to recover the crew. "Lake Huron rolls Superior sings in the rooms of her ice water mansion Old Michigan steams like a young man's dreams the islands and bays are for sportsmen and farther below Lake Ontario takes in what Lake Erie can send her and the Iron boats go as the mariners all know with the gales of november remembered" There is estimated to be more than 6000 commercial shipwrecks in the Great Lakes, and fewer than half of these have been located. "In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed in the maritime sailors' cathedral the church bell chimed 'til it rang 29 times for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald" The ship went down in Lake Superior on November 10, 1975 with 29 men on board. "The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee Superior they said never gives up her dead when the gales of November come early" link Last edited by Snouter; 10-12-2003 at 11:45 PM. |
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awesome song. i dont like gordon, but this is a work of art.
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Yep, I've seen a documentary on that....It was that show hosted by Leonard Nemoy....I can't recall the name right now.
What a horrible way to die. It is a fascinating story. Gordon Lightfoots song is also excellent. |
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The Butthole Surfers used to do a pretty funny version. The wierdest part was that they tried to do it seriously, but it only sounded comically awful everytime, and, as everything else the Buttholes used to do, ingenious in the final product.
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Awesome song... I've been a fan since I heard it on a classic rock station driving home in a white-out blizzard... how approriate.
There is a version by The Rheostatics that is really cool. It's like the original plus a sweet space rock vibe. I found it on Kazaa, but it's tough to find. PM me if you want to transfer over AIM or something. |
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I've loved that song since I was a kid....sad story though....
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Re: The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald
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See the link: http://www.cr.nps.gov/nr/travel/detroit/d16.htm ![]()
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It is an outstanding song.
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One theory was that the ship was on the crest of two waves and broke apart. But since they went down with the sub they saw that it wasn't the case.
I like to play the song on guitar. It's done with a 12 string but it still sounds good on my six-string and the chords are pretty easy. |
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