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Being Leftist and Anti-Semitic in Germany

This is a decent article, all be it brief, about the 'New Left' in Germany, and most sane people can certainly see the patterns throughout the rest of Europe and the U.S.

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During the Six Day War, the New Left definitively transformed its hitherto moderate pro-Arab positions into full support for Arab states and the Palestinians, and its fragile pro-Israeli attitudes dissolved into anti-Semitic slogans thinly disguised as "anti-imperialist" criticism of a "fascist state."

After 1967, however, not only the radicals but large parts of the German Left turned their backs on Israel. This went hand in hand with protests against the Vietnam War, against the conservative mainstream in Adenauer's Germany and afterward the "Great Coalition" that was headed from 1966 by Chancellor Kurt Georg Kiesinger, a former member of the Nazi Party.6 The New Left also idealized Communist China and Ho Chi Minh, despite their involvement in mass murder against their own people.7

Well-known intellectuals who were more moderate leftists tried to dissuade the New Left from its extreme positions. Ernst Bloch, Jean Amery, Herbert Marcuse, Iring Fetscher, and Jean-Paul Sartre argued with the radicals and discouraged blind solidarity with the PLO, as opposed to legitimate criticism of Israeli policies. They warned that notions of Israel's annihilation were intolerable and linked to National Socialist ideology. However, they were not heeded by the radicals.8
http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-32.htm

And, of course, we all know who the spiritual guide to the modern racist genocidal 'Pan-Arabist' terrorists is, and the idea that the 'Peace Left' is anything but a shill for fascism Islamic style is ludicrous.



Arafat's 'Army' ...




Hezbollah, etc., ... a nice little gallery of 'Arab salutes' here ....

http://www.malas-noticias.com.ar/ManoenaltoHiHitler.htm



And more gems ... The 'Peace Left' and their cretinous activities in the media are the major inspiration for the continuing growth and spread of Pan-Arab fascism and mass murder.
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Yes, the phoney 'Peace Left' and their anti-semitism is an obsession.
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You show us pictures of people using the straight arm salute which the Nazis copied from the Italian Fascists who in turn revived it from Imperial Rome.
Is this meant to be significant?

By "Left" I assume you mean Socialist or Communist. Since both parties were outlawed and many of their members imprisoned, tortured and executed by the Nazis during the Hitler regime, and furthermore that many active members were Jewish your charges of antisemitism (anti Zionist perhaps?) seem wide of the mark.

A few inflamatory public announcements by activists do not a "destroy Israel" movement make.
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You show us pictures of people using the straight arm salute which the Nazis copied from the Italian Fascists who in turn revived it from Imperial Rome.
Is this meant to be significant?
Are you claiming it isn't? That there is no connection between the Nazis and 'Pan-Arabism', the PLO, Fatah, Hamas, Baathists, particularly Sadam Hussein?

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By "Left" I assume you mean Socialist or Communist. Since both parties were outlawed and many of their members imprisoned, tortured and executed by the Nazis during the Hitler regime, and furthermore that many active members were Jewish your charges of antisemitism (anti Zionist perhaps?) seem wide of the mark.
Since the article in the first post is about the 'New Left' and it's embrace of anti-semitism, this doesn't address anything.

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A few inflamatory public announcements by activists do not a "destroy Israel" movement make.
Since there is a hell of a lot more than 'a few', not to mention the active involvement of 'Peace Left' activists in disinformation, gun running, courier services, etc., etc., and not least, enthusiastic fund-raising for the purpose of buying arms and providing ongoing logistical support and weapons funds for overtly racist and genocidal terrorists, this assertion of yours is merely quaint.
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And, moving on, a nice timeline for Arafat's relative and namesake, al Husseini ...

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As you will see in the timelines of TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH

Amin Al Husseini was a friend and close collaborator of Hitler and
Mussolini, who saw himself as the Muslim arm of the
world Nazi coalition. Husseini promised Hitler and Mussolini to turn Islam into the most formidable weapon against the West and the Jews. After the war he helped organize the creation of dictatorships all over the Muslim world, where many of his believers are now the leaders. Arafat, Saddam Hussein, Assad of Syria, and other Arab dictators were all schooled at Husseini's feet. Amin al Husseini was at different intervals the head of the Islamic World Congress, The Muslim Brotherhood, and the Arab League. As a leader of these organizations, until his death in the 70's, he had the time and possibility to spread his hate philosophy all over the Muslim world. Since Husseini's days, the whole Islamic world has been infected with armies of fascist violent groups.
Osama bin Laden and all other Muslim terror chiefs are ardent followers of Amin Al Husseini.

Read the timelines in our website TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH and you will learn the simple history which lead to today's conflicts, so you can pass the truth to the generations to come. Read the weblinks at the end of each timeline of this website and do your own search for further sources. We are just opening up the real debate about truth.

JEWS
Read our timelines to know the origin of today's antisemitism.

As you will see, there is evidence that Amin Al Husseini was the one who
first proposed the FINAL SOLUTION to the Germans, in order to avoid mass migration of Jews to their homeland and prevent the creation of the State of Israel. Read how Husseini's soldiers killed Jews and escorted Jewish refugees to the death camps. Husseini lived in Berlin during WWII and from there he broadcasted hate propaganda against Jews to the Muslim countries. Before Amin Al Husseini, Jews and Muslims lived side by side peacefully for many centuries. Husseini's influence as President of the World Islamic Congress in 1962 led to the systematic expulsion of hundred of thousands of Jews from Islamic countries.
Husseini's huge influence is at the origin of the hatred and the violence in the mid-East. Read the timelines of TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH and learn for yourself.

CHRISTIANS
In his lifetime, Amin Al Husseini organized and
participated in the GENOCIDES of Armenians, Christian Assyrians, Croats, Serbs, Bulgars and Gypsies first in the name of the Ottoman Empire, and later for Nazi Germany. Over 2 million Christian Sudanese have been killed by Islamic Fundamentalists who were inspired by Husseini's hateful ideology. Get informed and learn the facts for yourself from our timelines and weblinks or other sources.

HINDUS
The Islamo-Nazis inspired by Al Husseini are responsible for killing over 60 thousand Hindus in the last 2 decades in India alone, and for cultivating anti-Hindu hatred in the hearts of the Pakistanis, Muslim Kashmiris, and Afghans. The Hindus of Afghanistan, under Taliban rule, were forced to wear a special sign to be singled out as non-Muslims, a strong reminder of how Hitler imposed the yellow star on the Jews. In Bangladesh, over 3 million Hindus were murdered under the sword of Jihad, and by people poisoned by Husseini's hate philosophy. Read the timelines of TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH and get informed on the history of the fascist Jihad against Hindus and humanity.

BUDDHISTS
Was it not just a few years ago that the Taliban of Afghanistan destroyed, without reason, the world's most ancient statues of Buddha?
As you will see in TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH, this would have been unthinkable in the Muslim world before Amin Al Husseini.


BAHAI
In Iran, persecussion of Bahai people under Islamic rule has been covered up by Iranian officials who practice torture and murder against the Bahai in the name of Husseini's distorted version of Islam: a weapon of oppression against humanity. Get the facts and demand Justice. TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH provides you with a true insight into the root of this new paranoid philosophy called Jihad.

MUSLIMS
Read TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH and you will learn that the root of this evil called fundamentalism is not original Islam, it is plain fascism. The representant of this foreign ideology in the Arab world was Amin Al Husseini, who tried to marry Nazism with Islam. Read TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH and study our links for evidence that Amin Al Husseini organized and participated in terror in Islamic countries, and had Muslims mercilessly massacred by his followers. You will learn how during the years that Husseini spent at Hitler's side, he mastered the science of mass manipulation and propaganda, which characterized the Third Reich, and subsequently applied it in Arab countries, after having commited genocides in the Balkans. You will also learn how, with utter disregard for Islamic sanctity, Husseini had the late King Abdallah of Jordan, a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad, assassinated in the moment of prayer. Why? Because King Abdallah was a proponent of peace with the Jews. Learn how Husseini's followers in the Muslim Brotherhood also assassinated Egyptian President Sadat, and participated in the first attack on the World Trade Center. TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH reveals how, because of groups linked with Husseini's fascist ideology, at least 2 hundred thousand Muslims have died in Algeria in the past decade, where Islamic fundamentalists slaughter their victims daily, thus desecrating Islam and the Kur'an. Our timlelines and weblinks show how Two million Sudanese lost their life to this tyranny in the name of Islam. One million, mostly Christians, have been massacred over the past forty years in East Timor and Indonesia. It is of utmost importance for Muslims to learn about and radically reject Husseini's version of Islam, which is really anti-Islamic and was actually borrowed from the German Nazis. TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH shows that Husseini hosted among the most notorious Nazis who survived World War II in Syria and had them organize terror and policing in Arab countries. Husseini's use of the Holy Book of Islam as a tool of hate was not new: Hitler and Mussolini had done the same using the Bible. Our website will make this clear to everyone : The suicide attackers do not carry out their shocking missions until they have been fed Husseini's poisonous interpretations of Islam. The last free voices of Islam are warning us that this Husseini/Wahhabi poison is being injected daily in mosques worldwide. The message to all of Husseini's followers must be simple and direct: If Islam before Husseini was good enough for generations of peaceful believers who could live side by side with other peoples, then it is still good enough for all Muslims today. Have the answer ready when your children ask you : " Why Islam?"

The dream of a brutal Islamic world take-over is not and never was original Islam. It originated in a sick and hateful mind dedicated to trick and manipulate millions of Muslims into being the unconscious carriers of hatred against humanity. His name : Amin Al Husseini. Read the timelines of TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH and study our links so you can tell the story. The more people know about it, the sooner all will be free from the Husseini nightmare, and our children will have the chance to awaken to a better world.
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/ourmessage.html

These timelines are easily verifiable, even though the site erroneously claims 'Muslims and Arabs didn't hate Jews' until he came along, they were massacreing them long before 'Zionism', along with any other group who happened to interfere with their theocratic and racist imperialism. I link to it because it is easy to read, and fairly comprehensive, if brief. Others here can certainly add more to the sordid history of 'Pan-Arabism' and it's 'great hero'.
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Notice this guy won't mention anything about his neo-Nazi buddies in Germany that go around murdering immigrants and setting their homes on fire.

It's the far right in Germany who are anti-Semitic and racist..
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Notice the spam from the 'Peace Leftists' posting so far: no discussion of what's in the FP article, and, most telling, no refutation of their support for a genuine Nazi influenced genocidal 'movement'. See, when no 'links' are posted, they flop around flailing and demanding them. When they're actually posted, then they don't read or discuss them, just blather and snivel.
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Maybe if you repeat the claim that leftists are actually rightists often enough, and enhance the repetition with photos, it will somehow magically be transformed from complete bullshit into a startling insight.

The pathetic wanker David Horowitz has pursued this experiment further than anyone else, but the results are still not in.
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I don't think, from the evidence seen in Europe, one must be of any political stripe to hate Jews. I have yet to see a European country that ISN'T anti-Jewish all the way through, "rightists" and "leftists" alike.
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I don't think, from the evidence seen in Europe, one must be of any political stripe to hate Jews. I have yet to see a European country that ISN'T anti-Jewish all the way through, "rightists" and "leftists" alike.
This is generally correct, but the virulent racism and embrace of Nazi-style anti-semitism is, as the article points out. The 'Peace Left' aren't really leftist, any more than Bush is a conservative. I believe most people realize that the further each extreme goes from it's core premises to the left or the right, socially or economically, they meet, as in a circle. And, of course, on message boards it's even more pronounced.
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You two really deserve each other. I live in Europe and travel widely, your fantasy view of a Europe seething with neonazi, synagogue burning blackshirts would be laughable were it not so dangerous.
There will ALWAYS be people who hate Jews, or blacks, or Muslims, or Japanese .

So the "Peace Left" aren't actually Left ? Perhaps you need to clarify your definitions of Left and Right so we can get a handle on your muddled thinking....
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interesting enough, we have several jewish organisations opposing israel.

for the rest, Im sure there are some leftists who go overboard in their support for palestinians, and there ahve been times when arafat was a hero.
most leftists who support the palestinians however dont hate jews, they dont make a connection between ww2 and current politics in israel. its allways rightists who try to make these peopel look like anti-semites, because they have no real defence for israels decisions left. its a weak attempt to discredit your opposition. and thats all it is.

you have to know, that the smae extreme left groups who support palestinians, are not to lazy to try to prevent any neo nazi protest, and do everything possible to fight modern facism in europe. sais a lot that this article doesnt mention that. we even call these groups anti-facist groups. and thats their main concern, because its overhere and not in israel.
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These guys have only one mantra:

sympathetic to Palestine = Nazi anti-Semite
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sympathetic to Palestine = Nazi anti-Semite
and have no idea how much holland hates nazis....
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Everybody loved the Jews before the Nazis came along, right, Farnsworth? And if it wasn't for the Nazis, everybody still would love the Jews.
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From Farnsworth's little bedtime story:

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The dream of a brutal Islamic world take-over is not and never was original Islam. It originated in a sick and hateful mind dedicated to trick and manipulate millions of Muslims into being the unconscious carriers of hatred against humanity. His name : Amin Al Husseini.
Swill. A blatant lie. Or, as Adolf would say, a "Big Lie." Several Big Lies rolled into one, in fact.
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These guys have only one mantra:

sympathetic to Palestine = Nazi anti-Semite
- Quite true - and while I'm tempted to join in this debate, the last time I debated Farnsworth, it quickly degraded in to his posts being the equivalence of "nu-uh!" plus some random insult. Most people at least take some time before they fall back to that.
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sympathetic to Palestine = Nazi anti-Semite
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