DiscussAnything.com -

Go Back   DiscussAnything.com - > In The News > Political Debate

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 03-19-2006, 10:24 AM
thumper's Avatar
thumper thumper is offline
**BANNED**
 
Join Date: Feb 23 2005
Location: Garden of Sweden
Posts: 5,783
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Red face US Job Loss - Economy Or NWO Design – You Decide

American Jobs - Documentary DVD
http://www.newswithviews.com/HNV/Hot_New_Videos4.htm

Office Depot To Downsize & Outsource & The Trend Continues Un-Debated
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=6803446

World's Cleverest Woman Can't Find A Job – Is This Part Of The Illuminati Apparatus - Must Read !!!
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm...=news.quirkies

US Job Cuts Top 100,000 In October
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...rce_login=true

America's Middle Class The New Working Poor - Must Read !!!
http://www.washingtondispatch.com/article_10456.shtml

AFL-CIO Releases Agenda To Create Jobs & Lift the Economy
http://www.aflcio.org/yourjobeconomy/ns01062003a.cfm

Job Growth Record By President - It's Mind Buggling A Definite Must Read !!!
http://www.aflcio.org/yourjobeconomy.../jobgrowth.cfm

Job Cuts In Tech Sector Soar
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...y_jobs_tech_dc (Expired)
http://www.computerworld.com/careert...C00.html?f=x10
http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=37412

What Bush Really Means - 44 Million Americans Are Uninsured
I Wonder How Many Of Those Fit The Un-Employed But Un-Accounted For
http://www.rense.com/general57/means.htm

Unemployed In Dreamland
http://www.unknownnews.org/040910a-kn.html

Jobs Outsourcing CEOs Got 46% Pay Hike – At Least Someone Is Making Money
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...xecutives_dc_1 (Expired)
http://discuss.fogcreek.com/joelonso...&ixPost=182059
http://nyc99.com/weblog/index.php?m=200408

Exporting America - List Of Companies Doing So - Must Read !!!
http://www.pushhamburger.com/boycott1.htm

How To Spot A Psychopath At Work
http://www.rense.com/general56/howtospotapsychopath.htm

Job Layoffs Under Bush Highest In US History
http://www.rense.com/general56/ldldy.htm

Fewer US Jobs Postings On The World Wide Web
http://money.cnn.com/2004/08/05/news...reut/index.htm (Expired)

Recent Layoff Rate Was Highest Since Early 1980's
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstrac...A10894DC404482

Even Diligent Find Jobs Elusive
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/743596/posts

US Jobless Rate Misses 'Hidden' Unemployed (Reuters) - Must Take Note - Must Read !!!
http://www.rense.com/general53/hisi.htm

US Workers Outraged Over Outsourcing - AFP
http://www.americanfreepress.net/htm..._outraged.html

FDIC Data Vulnerable
http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0%...w=wn_tophead_4

1st Ever Strike Against Outsourcing Jobs
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...i?ArtNum=51267

Will The US Economy Turn Into A Depression & Civil Disorder
http://www.rense.com/general53/wither.htm

Elite Bankers Now Pulling Plug On US Economy & Currency
State Of The US Economy & Currency - The Federal Observer
http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=7849

Export Of US Jobs Accelerating - Report
http://www.rense.com/general53/ddde.htm

AFL-CIO President's Statement On Bush's New Overtime Pay Restrictions - Must Read !!!
http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/0421-14.htm

New Cars Are Getting Too Expensive To Fix
http://www.rense.com/general51/too.htm

Bank Of America To Cut 13,000 Jobs
http://finance.myway.com/ht/nw/bus/2...n05445143.html (Expired)
http://jacksonville.bizjournals.com/...5/daily18.html

Bush Record On The Economy & Lost Jobs
http://edworkforce.house.gov/democra.../rel22604.html

Outsourcing Law
http://www.outsourcing-law.com/articles.htm

The Butchers Of American Jobs
http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?n...ticle&sid=1610

The 'Exporting Jobs Scam - By Design - Regulatory Legislation - Must Read !!!
http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?n...ticle&sid=1591

Bush Manipulates Statistics To Distort Economic Truth
http://www.rense.com/general49/mis.htm

New Reality Bites - New Job Market Isn't Pretty
http://www.thetimesonline.com/articl...400071833a.txt

The Bleeding Of American Jobs
http://reese.king-online.com/Reese_20040220/index.php

President Bush Backtracks On Jobs Forecast
http://www.theiowachannel.com/employ...52/detail.html (Expired - No Wonder)
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37215

The Unemployment Rate Is Only The Beginning Of The Problem
http://www.economist.com/finance/dis...ory_id=2424216

The New Reality - Laid-Off Workers Have to Settle For Less
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/B...ty_040112.html (Expired)
http://www.highbeam.com/library/doc0...yword=&teaser=

Employment Lawyers Say Most Laid-Off Workers Are Just Plain Out Of Luck
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...19/BU14671.DTL

Overtime Pay For Millions Of Americans In Peril
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0115-01.htm

To Understand U.S. Jobs Picture, Connect The Dots, & Find The Dots
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstrac...A80894DC404482

Real US Job Growth Virtually Zero In December
http://www.rense.com/general47/jobgrowth.htm

White-Collar Jobs Pouring Out Of The US -Microsoft, IBM, To India, China, Malaysia, Philippines, S-Africa, Russia
http://www.rense.com/general47/outof.htm

American Made Jeans
http://www.denimexpress.com/usa-works-jeans.html

White-Collar Jobs Leaving The US
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0729/p01s03-usgn.html

EarthLink Cutting Another 1300 Jobs
http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/sto...MPLATE=DEFAULT (Expired)
http://www.10e20webdesign.com/news_c..._1300_jobs.htm

Bush Wants To Give Illegals 3 Year Pass 'If Employed' Bush Proposing Immigration Reform For Millions
http://www.rense.com/general47/paass.htm

Guess Whose Job Is Going Abroad Next - CPAs & Accountants
http://money.cnn.com/2003/12/30/pf/o...ejob/index.htm

The Great American Job Giveaway
http://www.pushhamburger.com/giveaway.htm

Exporting Tech Jobs To India
http://www.pushhamburger.com/exporting.htm

Out Of Work, Out Of Sight - Total Number Of Jobless Reaches 15.1 Million
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in588815.shtml

Will We Follow Bush To Wal-Mart America
The Dismantling Of America's Job Base
http://www.alternet.org/story/17467

A More Realistic Unemployment Rate 9.7%
http://www.rense.com/general46/theratehits9.html

Jobless Count Skips Millions
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...tskipsmillions (Expired)
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1229-01.htm

Bushite Betrayal Of Working America - by Patrick J. Buchanan
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=36355

US Companies Quietly Continue To Move Jobs Overseas
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/1...1300460000.htm (Expired)

"Losing America's Livelihood" / "OUTSOURCING" US Jobs Is Good, Says Bush Official - Good For Who ??? CEOs, NWO,...
http://discuss.agonist.org/yabbse/in...threadid=16349

(OFFICIAL) US Tech Workers Help Companies Export Their jobs
http://www.forbes.com/home/newswire/...tr1231804.html

Outsourcing Jobs To India
http://www.gnp.org/india.htm

Bush's Sleight Of Hand Distracts Us From Vanishing Jobs
Inaction By Congress On extending Unemployment Benefits Could Leave Tthe Nation's "8 Million" Jobless In Danger
http://www.epinet.org/printer.cfm?id...content_type=1

Lack Of Technology Spending
http://sanjose.bizjournals.com/sanjo...6/daily45.html

Democrats Rap GOP Over Jobless Benefits - Unemployment Is Declining Because Benefits Were Terminated Not Because Of Rising Employment
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ocrats_economy (Expired)
http://www.dfw.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/7539113.htm?1c

Manufacturing Continues To Decline In The US Under Bush
http://www.pushhamburger.com/job_decline.htm

Is The Job Market Improving (54% Say No - Poll)
http://money.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/results/7979.html

Vanishing & Most Vulnerable Jobs
http://money.cnn.com/2003/12/17/pf/q...work/index.htm

The Perils Of Productivity Is In Fact The Planned Demise Of The Middle Class
http://www.pushhamburger.com/jobs.htm

Xerox To Cut 800 Jobs This Month
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...e/tech/2269490 (Expired)
http://www.recruiter.com/120903_mn_2.cfm
http://clearstation.etrade.com/cgi-b...st_id=5022838&

Dell To Stop Using Tech Support From India - They Just Couldn't Hack-It
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/busine...Call%20Centers (Expired)
http://www.bizreport.com/news/5620
http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/business/7340063.htm?1c
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-19-2006, 10:34 AM
Mystlet Mystlet is offline
meat Drano!
 
Join Date: Aug 21 2004
Location: .
Posts: 15,596
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
You need help.
__________________
"The unhappy derive comfort from the misfortunes of others. "
Aesop
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-19-2006, 10:37 AM
thumper's Avatar
thumper thumper is offline
**BANNED**
 
Join Date: Feb 23 2005
Location: Garden of Sweden
Posts: 5,783
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-19-2006, 10:39 AM
Mystlet Mystlet is offline
meat Drano!
 
Join Date: Aug 21 2004
Location: .
Posts: 15,596
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Seriously, hon, you need to talk to someone.
__________________
"The unhappy derive comfort from the misfortunes of others. "
Aesop
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-19-2006, 10:58 AM
Guido's Avatar
Guido Guido is offline
DA Scumbag Tazer
 
Join Date: Nov 14 2005
Location: Dallas
Age: 11
Posts: 5,314
Thanks: 17
Thanked 178 Times in 114 Posts
This kind of repetitive, content-free spamming is lowering the otherwise high quality of DA.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-19-2006, 11:00 AM
SivVulk's Avatar
SivVulk SivVulk is offline
Kooky Canuck
Discussion Leader
 
Join Date: May 06 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Age: 24
Posts: 3,032
Thanks: 61
Thanked 100 Times in 79 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by myst
Seriously, hon, you need to talk to someone.

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-19-2006, 11:02 AM
thumper's Avatar
thumper thumper is offline
**BANNED**
 
Join Date: Feb 23 2005
Location: Garden of Sweden
Posts: 5,783
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guido
This kind of repetitive, content-free spamming is lowering the otherwise high quality of DA.
I'd blame your inability to read
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-19-2006, 11:04 AM
Guido's Avatar
Guido Guido is offline
DA Scumbag Tazer
 
Join Date: Nov 14 2005
Location: Dallas
Age: 11
Posts: 5,314
Thanks: 17
Thanked 178 Times in 114 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by thumper
I'd blame your inability to read
If you have something to say, say it. For example, if you are claiming that US job loss is the result of something called "NWO design" -- whatever that might mean -- then explain how, and people like me will show up to decimate and destroy your argument. Otherwise, it's just more spamming, which seems to be all that you are capable of doing.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-19-2006, 11:10 AM
thumper's Avatar
thumper thumper is offline
**BANNED**
 
Join Date: Feb 23 2005
Location: Garden of Sweden
Posts: 5,783
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guido
If you have something to say, say it. For example, if you are claiming that US job loss is the result of something called "NWO design" -- whatever that might mean -- then explain how, and people like me will show up to decimate and destroy your argument. Otherwise, it's just more spamming, which seems to be all that you are capable of doing.
I know this upsets your regular soap opera you call 'politics' but this is a grown ups thread .

Now why not run along and go Bush bashing your little heart out with the other libbruls.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-19-2006, 11:48 AM
Java_man's Avatar
Java_man Java_man is offline
DA Skeptic
 
Join Date: Jul 31 2004
Location: Earth
Posts: 9,798
Thanks: 30
Thanked 262 Times in 166 Posts
Another pointless Thumper thread


moving along ... nothing to debate here
__________________
Living our values doesn’t make us weaker, it makes us safer and it makes us stronger.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-19-2006, 12:57 PM
Deconstructionist's Avatar
Deconstructionist Deconstructionist is offline
DA Member
 
Join Date: Mar 17 2006
Posts: 59
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
thumper,

Good post. You are missing the best sources, though.

VDARE

Fuzzy Data, Flawed Economics, Underlie H-1b, Outsourcing Enthusiasm
http://www.vdare.com/rubenstein/060314_nd.htm

A Cold February for White Workers
http://www.vdare.com/rubenstein/060310_nd.htm

"Justice For Janitors"- Or Jobs For Americans?
http://www.vdare.com/guzzardi/060311_miami.htm

Jobs Update: More Jobs For Bartenders, As Factory Workers Lose Jobs
http://www.vdare.com/roberts/060310_jobs.htm

Data Shows America’s Job Growth Benefits Immigrants, Outsourcers
http://www.vdare.com/roberts/060303_jobs.htm

How The Economic News Is Spun—And Why
http://www.vdare.com/roberts/060228_economics.htm

Their Own Economic Reality
http://www.vdare.com/roberts/060215_reality.htm

Jobs News Even Worse Than We Thought
http://www.vdare.com/roberts/060211_jobs.htm

Job Disinformation From The New York Times
http://www.vdare.com/roberts/060203_jobs.htm

Economy In Crisis

The Manufacturing Factor: A History of America's Economic Ascension
http://www.economyincrisis.org/article_45.html

The Great American Job Sellout
http://www.economyincrisis.org/artic...icle.asp?ID=70

Is The US Becoming A "Banana Republic"?
http://www.economyincrisis.org/article_23.html

American Economic Alert

The National Association of Manufacturers Is Spinning the News on the High-Tech Trade Deficit So Fast It's Getting Dizzy
http://www.americaneconomicalert.com...p?Prod_ID=2383

The Bill Thomas Legacy: Thanks for the Trade Deficits
http://www.americaneconomicalert.com...p?Prod_ID=2378

2005 Current Account Deficit Hits Another Record High
http://www.americaneconomicalert.com...p?Prod_ID=2379

Why the American Public Rejects the Bush Economic "Plan"
http://www.americaneconomicalert.org...p?Prod_ID=2346

Why The American Public Rejects the Bush Economic "Plan" (Part 2)
http://www.americaneconomicalert.org...p?Prod_ID=2355

Pat Buchanan

Panic in Davos world
http://www.theamericancause.org/a-pjb-060314-Davos.htm

The fruits of NAFTA
http://www.theamericancause.org/a-pjb-060310-Indian.htm

Hard Sources

Brown, Sherrod. Myths of Free Trade: Why American Trade Policy Has Failed. New York: The New Press, 2004.

Buchanan, Patrick. The Great Betrayal: How American Sovereignty and Social Justice Are Being Sacrificed to the Gods of the Global Economy. Boston: Little Brown, and Co., 1998.

Chang, Ha-Joon. Kicking Away the Ladder: Development Strategy in Historical Perspective. Anthem Press, 2002.

Faux, Jeff. The Global Class War. John Wiley & Sons, 2006

Fingleton, Eamonn. Unsustainable: How Economic Dogma is Destroying American Propserity

List, Friedrich. The National System of Political Economy. London: Longmans, Green, and Co., 1885.

Lynn, Barry C. End of the Line: The Rise and Coming Fall of the Global Corporation. Doubleday, 2005.

Shutt, Harry. The Trouble With Capitalism: An Enquiry into the Causes of Global Economic Failure. Zed Books, 1998

-----. The Myth of Free Trade: Patterns of Protectionism Since 1945. The Economist Books, 1985.

Tonelson, Alan. The Race to the Bottom. Westview Press, 2000.
__________________
The Phora

"If such work be called eugenics, then I am a eugenicist."
—James Watson

Last edited by Deconstructionist; 03-19-2006 at 12:59 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-19-2006, 01:41 PM
jimmyjude jimmyjude is offline
DA Guru
 
Join Date: May 08 2005
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 4,116
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Well that is a lot of sources.

But...what is the unemployment rate in the United States?


Hmmmm...doesn't fit with empirical facts does it?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-19-2006, 02:11 PM
Guido's Avatar
Guido Guido is offline
DA Scumbag Tazer
 
Join Date: Nov 14 2005
Location: Dallas
Age: 11
Posts: 5,314
Thanks: 17
Thanked 178 Times in 114 Posts
Job loss is the direct result of companies moving their operations overseas. The motive is to reduce marginal costs of production.

That is not "theory," it's self-evident.

In order to demonstrate that this phenomenon is the result of "NWO design," thumper would have to not only identify what the "NWO" is, and how it implements its "designs," but also show, in this particular case, how the NWO design is a stronger explanation than economic self-interest.

thumper knows better than to even attempt any of this, because he doesn't have the slightest idea what he's talking about. For that reason, he substitutes a string of articles, which nobody is actually going to read, together with a meaningless headline.

That's why it's spam.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-19-2006, 02:29 PM
thumper's Avatar
thumper thumper is offline
**BANNED**
 
Join Date: Feb 23 2005
Location: Garden of Sweden
Posts: 5,783
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
^ please stalk someone else, fagmo
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-19-2006, 02:30 PM
Guido's Avatar
Guido Guido is offline
DA Scumbag Tazer
 
Join Date: Nov 14 2005
Location: Dallas
Age: 11
Posts: 5,314
Thanks: 17
Thanked 178 Times in 114 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by thumper
^ please stalk someone else, fagmo
As I said earlier:


thumper knows better than to even attempt any of this, because he doesn't have the slightest idea what he's talking about.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 03-19-2006, 02:34 PM
thumper's Avatar
thumper thumper is offline
**BANNED**
 
Join Date: Feb 23 2005
Location: Garden of Sweden
Posts: 5,783
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
i have many threads explaining the NWO. you're just very, very thick.


here, why not j/o to this for a while

Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 03-19-2006, 03:33 PM
Guido's Avatar
Guido Guido is offline
DA Scumbag Tazer
 
Join Date: Nov 14 2005
Location: Dallas
Age: 11
Posts: 5,314
Thanks: 17
Thanked 178 Times in 114 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by thumper
i have many threads explaining the NWO. you're just very, very thick.


here, why not j/o to this for a while

Just for the amusement of the peanut gallery, I challenge you to explain -- here and now -- exactly how the phenomenon of multinational corporations moving their operations to places where labor and materials are cheaper is the result of "NWO design" rather than economic self-interest.

Presumably, that's your claim, although it's unclear because you won't (or more likely can't) say it outright. I want to see you try to support your claim, and not by citing some article by someone who maybe knows a little bit more about the world than you do.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 03-19-2006, 03:45 PM
Deconstructionist's Avatar
Deconstructionist Deconstructionist is offline
DA Member
 
Join Date: Mar 17 2006
Posts: 59
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmyjude
Well that is a lot of sources.
I'm a prolific reader.

Quote:
But...what is the unemployment rate in the United States? Hmmmm...doesn't fit with empirical facts does it?
Actually it does. See, workers who are laid off from their full time manufacturing jobs and who find themselves reemployed as part time service employees are counted as employed.
__________________
The Phora

"If such work be called eugenics, then I am a eugenicist."
—James Watson
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 03-19-2006, 04:12 PM
thumper's Avatar
thumper thumper is offline
**BANNED**
 
Join Date: Feb 23 2005
Location: Garden of Sweden
Posts: 5,783
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
thanks for the extra links, Deconstructionist
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 03-19-2006, 04:14 PM
thumper's Avatar
thumper thumper is offline
**BANNED**
 
Join Date: Feb 23 2005
Location: Garden of Sweden
Posts: 5,783
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guido
Just for the amusement of the peanut gallery, I challenge you to explain -- here and now -- exactly how the phenomenon of multinational corporations moving their operations to places where labor and materials are cheaper is the result of "NWO design" rather than economic self-interest.

Presumably, that's your claim, although it's unclear because you won't (or more likely can't) say it outright. I want to see you try to support your claim, and not by citing some article by someone who maybe knows a little bit more about the world than you do.
how about doing us all a favor and coming in with the requisite knowledge about the OP before posting, instead of acting like a petulant little girl demanding me to give you a tutorial because you're too dense.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


The time now is 03:49 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All rights reserved.