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08-10-2005, 03:27 PM
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What AQ and The Far Left Share
An interesting blog entry from Lebanon on Al Qaeda and Friends irrational hatred of the U.S. The author points out the hypocrisy in focusing upon the U.S. when China is a far worse oppressor/threat to Muslims.
They remind me of the Far Left Loony Fringe - blinded by hatred to the extent that they have completely lost any sense of real mission. Bringing the Jihad to China Little says more about al Qaeda being a bunch of little punks obsessed with hitting the big guy (the US and the West) than their lack of adherence to their ideology. If al Qaeda truly wanted to make the world a better place for Muslims, the US would not be the first country they would attack. Muslims live incredibly free and profitable lives in the United States. And Muslims can be seen thriving in all areas of employment and life as shopkeepers, doctors, artists, and professors. But in China, this is not the case. Muslims are horribly oppressed by the Chinese government. The Chinese government is officially atheist and has no problem toppling every pillar of Islam. Chinese cuisine is packed with pork, and alcohol is a popular commodity (okay, that's not really a kep point). The Chinese government indirectly supports the genocide of Muslims in Darfur (albeit by other Muslims). The United States does not stop anyone from expressing their faith. In fact, some American Christians argue that Muslims and other religious minorities receive more religious rights than they do. At elite universities, it is accepted to practice Islam, but it is absolutely unacceptable to profess one's Christian faith. That's not the way it is in China. Yes, I realize the anger stems from America supporting the Saudi regime, Israel, and keeping dictators like Hosni Mubarak in power in the Middle East. But the hate has become entirely irrational. The US took out Saddam Hussein, a man probably responsible for more Muslim deaths than anyone else alive. The US is working (although slowly) to distance itself from Saudi Arabia. The US is pressuring Israel (although very little) to continue with the Gaza pullout. The US is pushing for rightful democracy in Lebanon. But now al Qaeda is working with entities that do not benefit the Muslim community; they entities that are merely against the United States. The government of Syria massacred over 20,000 Muslims (the number changes depending on who you ask) in Hama in 1982. The Assad regimes mercilessly clamped down on Sunni groups. The Syrian government is an unIslamic government run by Muslim heretics. The Syrian Baath is secularist. And yet al Qaeda and Syria are cooperating to mount attacks in Iraq. The same goes with Iraqi Baathists. Baath ideology is counter to Islamic movements, and yet al Qaeda operatives are allying with them. These people are not driven by ideological zeal. They are driven by blind, irrational hate of the US, and they will do anything to take the US down. If they actually believed their faith and wanted to fight to promote it and help their brethren, China would be a much more suitable target. http://lebop.blogspot.com/2005/08/br...-to-china.html
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08-10-2005, 03:35 PM
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More stupid character defamation of liberals with little to no point. We could just as easily compare you with the Nazis, so you can stop with the derogatory analogies.
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08-10-2005, 03:38 PM
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Fine, ignore the danger signs at your own peril. The Far Left (as opposed to liberals in general) are blinded by their hatred of Bush and The Right to such a degree that they do irrational things and undermine their own agenda.
Just like Al Qaeda. The moral: When you define yourself by what you hate, you lose who you were to begin with.
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08-10-2005, 03:42 PM
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Memo to self: Post an article exactly the same, except pointing out how evil the religious right is to America.
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08-10-2005, 03:45 PM
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^ Still owes me $5, which may be paid off with a donation to Operation Rescue, The Young Republicans, or The Karl Rove Defense Fund.
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08-10-2005, 03:46 PM
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08-10-2005, 03:50 PM
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Then perhaps you should encourage your party to not select leaders which scream about how they hate the opposition and that the opposition is EVUL. There is a poll on this board in which one of the response choices to how Bush is doing in office is "would like to shoot him". Some may think it is a funny joke - but it is an appalling display of the lack of decent values promoted by the Far Left.
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08-10-2005, 03:52 PM
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08-10-2005, 03:57 PM
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It is funny watching people, sometimes, though. Especially people who can't see themselves doing exactly what they accuse everyone else of doing. Anyway, since you mentioned it: Code:
Issue Liberal Osama bin NeoConservative
Position Laden Position Position
Abortion Favors Opposes Opposes
Prayer in School Opposes Favors Favors
Separation of
Church & State Favors Opposes Opposes
Censorship Opposes Favors Favors
Pre-emptive Attacks Opposes Favors Favors
Interpretation of
Religious Scripture Not Literal Literal Literal
Women's Rights Favors Opposes Opposes
Death with Dignity Favors Opposes Opposes
Evolution Accepts Rejects Rejects
Invasion of Iraq Opposed Favored Favored
United Nations Supports Opposes Opposes
Gay Rights Favors Opposes Opposes
Contraceptives Favors Opposes Opposes
Sex Education Favors Opposes Opposes
Severe Penalties
for Drug Use Opposes Favors Favors
Corporal Punishment Opposes Favors Favors
Thinks There is
Only One TRUE God No Yes Yes
Dissent = Disloyalty Disagrees Agrees Agrees
Torture Opposes Favors Favors
Death Penalty Opposes Favors Favors
Execution of
Mentally Ill
and Children Opposes Favors Favors
Detention Without
Trial Opposes Favors Favors
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08-10-2005, 04:04 PM
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08-10-2005, 04:22 PM
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08-10-2005, 04:26 PM
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Boo's post is an ignorant one for simple minds - which plays right into the hands of the Far Left who manipulate such simpletons.
It leaves out the most important point of comparison: Favors Totalitarian Statism in which the Individual is owned by the State: The Left and OBL. Opposes Totalitarian Statism in which the Individual is owned by the State: The Moderates and The Right
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08-10-2005, 04:38 PM
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OBL favors the rule of "gods law" rather than state law per se. It's why he despises democracy: he sees it as men living under man-made rules rather than god's laws. Sounds more like the position of the far-right (neocons) than the far left. Seems to me that OBLs ideology of theocracy and world domination much more closely parallels that of the religiofacist neoconservative, PNACian "nation builders" that renewed the concepts of military pre-emption and preventing the rise of nations to challenge the USA.
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08-10-2005, 05:22 PM
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Ahem. Statism From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Statism is a term that is used in a variety of disciplines (economics, sociology, education policy etc) to describe a system that involves a significant role for the state in economic or social affairs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statism Quote:
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Remember, this is the same party that only a short time ago championed human rights for all and stated; "pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty." Where are those Democrats today? Democrats of today won't lift a finger for freedom.
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08-10-2005, 05:26 PM
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Given the attitudes that prevail on many college campuses today, I'm not so sure you can claim that liberals oppose censorship when they've got the upper hand. Plus a lot of the responses in the "Neoconservative Column" could more accurately be called traditional conservative or possibly paleoconservative, rather than neocon. Though, of course the hardcore paleocons like Pat Buchaan opposed the invasion of Iraq as well.
 The problem with blog entry is that the Chinese are not in the middle east at the moment, don't support Israel (though they'll cheerfully buy arms from Israel that the US won't sell them, thanks ally and largest aid recipent ), and I believe have helped Pakistan with aid vs. India. On top of that China's moslems are largely in the northwestern part of the country, and their problems don't really receive much media attention.
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08-10-2005, 05:42 PM
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Note social planning is irrelevant to this process.
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08-10-2005, 05:43 PM
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But the right-wingers continue to completely define themselves by how much they hate "the left". Some of them can barely have a conversation without lashing out at "the leftists" at least once. You can't bring up a single topic without hearing how "the extreme left" is this bad thing or that bad thing or another bad thing. I mean, they define their entire existance on their hatred of "the left". It's creepy and sad. And the rest of those points still stand. The GOP and al Qaida agree on a lot of major issues, and disagree on very few. They may not go to the same extremes on some of them, but the same basic principle is there: the state/church should control the social aspects of the people, religion is a good tool for the government to use to control the population, and violence is neccessary and good to achieve your ends -- be it 9-11 or Shock and Awe, it's still bombing and killing chosen over two ideas that both groups hate: diplomacy and tolerance.
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08-10-2005, 05:44 PM
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Centralized planning relies upon individuals being subordinated to The State.
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