Where are the peacefull protests???

[CYLLON]

"Muslins took to the streets around the world today to march in protest of the recent wave of violence perpetrated in Russia by Islamic radicals. "We condemn any person, especially a Muslim, who would shoot a fleeing child in the back." said one of the protestors. "These pigs are murderers, not Muslims. They shame Allah rather than honor him."

Estimates of the numbers of Muslims marching worldwide to protest violent acts in the name of Islam numbered in the hundreds of thousands, perhaps the millions.

Have we been reading this or seen it anywhere?
I have not. The sufi muslim is the only one worth calling a peacefull religion. The rest sit by and mouth but do nothing to confront the terrorist islamist and then wonder why they get a back lash. WELL DUH!!!

The idea that the main stream of islam is a religion of peace is looking even more thin. If the vast majority of devout Muslims in the world want nothing but to live their lives in accordance with their religion without violence and without bothering anyone else then their proof of this is saddly lacking and if anything shows just the opossite. they will jump like frogs on a hot plate if even the slightest implicTION OF "DESCRIMINATION " IS SEEN . This beeing the apparent case then these "majority of peace loving muslims" will have to show us they are as disgusted, distressed and fed up with the actions of Islamist terrorists as the rest of us are. I bet what we actually DO see is more condemnation for crossing the politically correct line and identifing the terrorists for what they are .... Muslims islamist that shoot fleaing children in the back and or bayoneting them for asking for water{as some pappers have reported**.

Some muslims see it for what it is.

However, a prominent Arab journalist wrote that Muslims must acknowledge the painful fact that Muslims are the main perpetrators of terrorism.

"Our terrorist sons are an end-product of our corrupted culture," Abdulrahman al-Rashed, general manager of Al-Arabiya television, wrote in his daily column published in the Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper. It ran under the headline, "The Painful Truth: All the World Terrorists are Muslims!"
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/....ap/index.html

Talk is cheap. Arafat condems the same just as he supports it. Talk means nothing.Actions do.

Then again ... we see radical Islamic leaders such as some in London saying that taking women and children hostage is a perfectly aceptable way for Muslims to express their grievances ... just so long as they are only killed in crossfires with the enemy and not by Muslims.Like putting them in harms way is not their fault.Using them as human shields is the other guys fault. This is the same mentality they have in palestine. When they use schools and homes as ammo dumps ,bomb factories and for meetings to plot death and destruction they scream murder when those houses are hit by defendding forces.
Just because you hire a hit man dose not mean you can claim you did not do it or had no responsibility.It never would have happened except for your direct actions.You as good as put the gun to their heads and puled the triger.

Now.With these immages of russian parents in terror, do you think the soft targets of schools{you know, the gun free zone places** are not going to be seen as a juicey target in the u.s. or anywhere else?? They see them work well. Look for more.


Its a war, folks. We need to start acting like it.

[lilnymph]

Where where the Christian marches round the world condemning the IRA and loyalists, when they where killing children and baby's in Northern Ireland?

Hugs

lilnymph

[h2g2Fan]

This is the type of news story that should, no, has to get more coverage. Most Muslims do not condone the terorrist attacks against the WTC, etc., but that just isn't getting shown on the news whereas a couple of people cheering in Palestine, Saudi Arabia, etc. in the hours after 9/11 got quite a lot.

Let's keep it fair and balanced folks - Islam is not the enemy, terrorists are.

[lilnymph]

Originally Posted by h2g2Fan

This is the type of news story that should, no, has to get more coverage. Most Muslims do not condone the terorrist attacks against the WTC, etc., but that just isn't getting shown on the news whereas a couple of people cheering in Palestine, Saudi Arabia, etc. in the hours after 9/11 got quite a lot.

Let's keep it fair and balanced folks - Islam is not the enemy, terrorists are.

I would go further though, Islam isn't the enemy, Terroists and ignorance are.

Hugs

lilnymph

[Patrician]

The enemies of this nation and global progress are the opponents of globalization and modernity. Many of them are "muslims". To say they are not or are the enemy is simply ignorant in itself.

[Corporate Avenger]

Originally Posted by contra

The enemies of this nation and global progress are the opponents of globalization and modernity. Many of them are "muslims". To say they are not or are the enemy is simply ignorant in itself.

The proponents of globalization are our enemy, not the other way around...

[Brainbuster]

Originally Posted by Corporate Avenger

The proponents of globalization are our enemy, not the other way around...

Are you an isolationist?

Why do you say that, I'd like to hear your opinion, without any pointless attacks.

[Corporate Avenger]

Originally Posted by Brainbuster

Are you an isolationist?

Why do you say that, I'd like to hear your opinion, without any pointless attacks.

I don't know if isolationist is the proper term, the wealthy elites that are pushing the current form of globalization on us right now don't have the best interests of anbody but themselves. They are exploiting the people of the third world and then screwing the people here in the States. If the rest of the world had the same labor and environmental laws as the US it would be one thing, but then, companies wouldn't be leaving the US in droves either.

When it comes to meddling with foreign nations, unless there is no other option, or there are serious human rights reasons, or it is to help an allie, I don't think we should be involving ourselves. The reasons I think this can be found in the book called Blowback, by Chalmers Johnson. I just think it's a pretty basic thing, if you kill someone's family, it's likely they will want revenge. If there's a region in the world inhabited by religious fanatics, don't build military bases there, or they might want to kill you too. And doing more of the same will not solve or end the problem, it will only increase it, sadly...I think this is pretty off-topic..

[Cherry]

CA I dont know really if it is the wealthy elites that are pushing Globalization but simple reality being played out. No nation exists in isolation and as a result improvements in Transportation, communication and trade lead naturally to a shrinking world. Gone are the days when one nation can put up boundries which eliminate forgien goods entering the country as are the realities of high cost of production in developed nations.

It seems to me that Globalization is an inevitable future no matter how much individuals or governments resist it with protectionist legislation. The best way to deal with the realities of world trade is in my mind to ensure that your countries financial situation is good eg. debt and deficit and that government demands on the money supply and the tax payers is as low as possible. Unfortuantely in the case of the USA that is not happening at all.

[CYLLON]

Originally Posted by lilnymph

Where where the Christian marches round the world condemning the IRA and loyalists, when they where killing children and baby's in Northern Ireland?

Hugs

lilnymph

they were in ireland.

The ira has not spread around the globe. apples and oranges.Besides. Its not a muslim v. christian thread. When the christians, budist, hindues ecetra start round the world targetting of children on purpose, you will then have a gripe.

Last time I checked, most christians were not prodominately irish anyway.Christian dose not mean irish.

p.s. just wondering why you saw the need to make this a christian muslim issue?

[CYLLON]

Originally Posted by h2g2Fan

This is the type of news story that should, no, has to get more coverage. Most Muslims do not condone the terorrist attacks against the WTC, etc., but that just isn't getting shown on the news whereas a couple of people cheering in Palestine, Saudi Arabia, etc. in the hours after 9/11 got quite a lot.

Let's keep it fair and balanced folks - Islam is not the enemy, terrorists are.

exactly. Islamist are. i posted several threads where muslim have condemed the attacks and did more than give nice speeches.

CAIRS, and the other organizations are saddly lacking in the area of backing up their words with actions.

[Patrician]

Originally Posted by Corporate Avenger

The proponents of globalization are our enemy, not the other way around...

Globalization is beautoful. The only true way to peace and progress.

[86Dude]

Originally Posted by contra

Globalization is beautoful. The only true way to peace and progress.

I agree in much that your write, and much that you don't. I have to chalk this one up in the dsagree column.

[Cherry]

Originally Posted by contra

Globalization is beautoful. The only true way to peace and progress.

In reality it is but probably not the way you think.

on topic,
You have to be careful crouching this in religious terms because this is not as GWB would probably view it, a religious war. While religion is involved it is being used and manipulated by both sides in this conflict just as it was in Ireland and just about every other conflict.