Posing a question to the christians

[Tala Hotyk]

I've been pondering something lately, and it struck me as odd that no one thought of doing this back about 2000 years ago.

Before Jesus was crucified, he told those he could at the time that he would rise again in 3 days time, back from the dead.

My question is this: Why didn't anyone sit in the tomb with his body to see how the miracle was happening?

I mean the Bible says that there were doctors at that time, there were prophets who were around at the time that said that Jesus was the messiah, his family and Apostle's should have thought that after 3 days in a tomb he might come back to life hungry and thirsty. Why was no one interested in what was happening in the tomb if his word was good to them?

Just think, miracles would have been occurring inside that tomb, right? I mean wouldn't someone have wanted to watch how Jesus' wounds from a spear in his ribs and holes in his hands and feet healed up? Why was it that 3 days later, everyone suddenly started taking an interest again? Was it that they really all just believed he wasn't going to resurrect? Where was their firm belief?

[Snouter]

Just by looking at the Bible, the question can be answered.

Matt 27:62 Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate, Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.

Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first.

Pilate said unto them, Ye have a watch: go your way, make it as sure as ye can. So they went, and made the sepulchre sure, sealing the stone, and setting a watch.

In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.

His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow: And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men. And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.

He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you.

And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his disciples word. And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.


Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.
Now when they were going, behold, some of the watch came into the city, and shewed unto the chief priests all the things that were done.

And when they were assembled with the elders, and had taken counsel, they gave large money unto the soldiers, Saying, Say ye, His disciples came by night, and stole him away while we slept.
And if this come to the governor's ears, we will persuade him, and secure you.

So they took the money, and did as they were taught: and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day.

Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain there Jesus had appointed them. And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

[redsteer]

Why didn't anyone sit in the tomb with his body to see how the miracle was happening?

Yikes!...it's a pandora's box of malarkey coming our way.
The only question is; Greek Tragedy?...or Roman Farce.

[JoeyNormal]

To summarise Snouter's post: Because there was a big ****ing rock in the way.

[RightWingZealot]

there was a big f-ing rock in the way and guards forbidding entrance.

[ÆSiR]

They can build giant freakin temples and towers.
They can build a wooden ark capable of carrying 2 of all the worlds animals.

Yet... they can't move a freakin rock.

[RightWingZealot]

think

[Snouter]

RWZ, Joey obviously didn't read or comprehend that quote so I will have to point out the basics.

The head Jews approached Pilate once again and were afraid Christ, who they referred to as "that deceiver," would rise and exit the tomb after 3 days. They demanded that the tomb be guarded to insure that his followers did not artificially fulfill the prophecy which would instantly reduce the power of the head Jews. Pilate agreed and the tomb was made secure with a stone, as well as guards standing by.

When the various Mary's arrived to pay respect, the stone was rolled and Christ appeared to them and others.

[ÆSiR]

[Tala Hotyk]

That scripture still doesn't answer my question.

The guards did not go to the tomb until after the second day.

All through the life of Jesus everyone around him wanted to see his miracles being performed. People wanted to touch him; people called to him from distant cities for his healing; books were written about him performing his miracles. All kinds of people took an interest in it.

The sepulcher had a stone placed in front of it, sure. But why did no one go in with his body when he was placed there to watch the miracle occur if his miracles were so important and popular?
There were no guards right away. He wasn't alive to disuade them not to do so. He told them ahead of time that the miracle would be happening inside the tomb. He did not command any of his followers not to be there to watch what happened while he was resurrecting. So why not?

[lilnymph]

It was the sabbath day, so according to Jewish law, none of them could in (moving the rock would have been work). I doubt the guards would have been interested in going in, and even if they where, Romans where a disciplined army.

Hugs

lilnymph

[Snouter]

Tala Hotyk, keep in mind all through the life of Christ, the head Jews plotted to kill him. This obviously was a source of tremendous intimidation and ultimately caused his most trusted disciples to deny Him even while He was alive.

Just reread the last chapters of each Gospel. The disciples still had trouble believing after His return and Christ had to remind some of them of the prophecies he fulfilled including the one about rising from the dead the third day.

[Tala Hotyk]

Originally posted by lilnymph
It was the sabbath day, so according to Jewish law, none of them could in (moving the rock would have been work). I doubt the guards would have been interested in going in, and even if they where, Romans where a disciplined army.

Hugs

lilnymph

Lilnymph,
I thought the scriptures says the day after he was crucified was the Sabbath so they had to entomb him right away.

The guards did not come until the second day and then the stone was put in place, right? So didn't they work on the Sabbath?

[Tala Hotyk]

Originally posted by Snouter
Tala Hotyk, keep in mind all through the life of Christ, the head Jews plotted to kill him. This obviously was a source of tremendous intimidation and ultimately caused his most trusted disciples to deny Him even while He was alive.

Just reread the last chapters of each Gospel. The disciples still had trouble believing after His return and Christ had to remind some of them of the prophecies he fulfilled including the one about rising from the dead the third day.

I guess that makes the most sense. I suppose if I were one of the disciples I would most likely have been scared s***less to hang out there for fear of being killed as well.

I just find it so interesting that there was no connotation to anyone wanting to watch the resurrection occur in the New Testament. I just keep thinking that someone must have wanted to.

[lilnymph]

Originally posted by Tala Hotyk


Lilnymph,
I thought the scriptures says the day after he was crucified was the Sabbath so they had to entomb him right away.

The guards did not come until the second day and then the stone was put in place, right? So didn't they work on the Sabbath?

The guards would possibly have been roman, so could work whenever they where told to

He wasn't entombed properly as there wasn't time before the sabbath day, he was just laid in the tomb. That is what the women where coming to do when it was found he had risen, finish off the rituals and things to do with the entombing

hugs

lilnymph

[RightWingZealot]

I suppose if I were one of the disciples I would most likely have been scared s***less to hang out there for fear of being killed as well.

The disciples were petrified when all this was going down. That's why Peter denied Christ, remember?

[redsteer]

Originally posted by RightWingZealot

That's why Peter denied Christ, remember?

And Timothy cried like a little girl