The African moors sparked the European Renaissance!

[MF_DOOM]

The African Moors sparked the European Renaissance!
Ruling Spain, southern France, much of Scotland & North Africa during the
Middle ages for 700 years, the Black African Moors gave Europe one of its
finest civilizations. The word Moor is from the Greek word mauros,
meaning scorched. In the introduction of The Story of the Moors in Spain
by Stanley Lane-Poole, John Jackson writes: "Eurocentric historians argue
that Europe gave civilization to Africa, which is a complete inversion of
the truth. The first civilized Europeans were the Greeks, who were
chiefly civilized by the Africans of the Nile Valley. The Greeks
transmitted this culture to the Romans, who finally lost it, bringin on a
dark age of five hundred years. Civilization was restored to Europe when
another group of Africans, the Moors, brought this dark age to an end...
Duriong the Golden Age of Islam, the Moorish Empire... was the most
advanced state in the world... Cordova was the most wonderful city of the
tenth century; the streets were well-paved, with raised sidewalks for
pedestrians... Public baths numbered in the hundreds... at a time when
cleanliness in Christian Europe was regarded a sin... Moorish monarchs
dwelt in splendid palaces, while the crowned heads of England, France,
and Germany lived in big barns, lacking both windows and chimneys, with only
a hole in the roof for the emission of smoke."

The Moors had an insatiable lust for knowledge, and acquired it from East
and West, translating into Arabic all they could find, even ransacking
monasteries for rare books. One king had a private library of 600,000
books! In Moorish Spain education was available to the most humble,
while in Christian Europe 99% of the populace were illiterate, including
kings. The incredible city of Cordova had 800 public schools! The Moors
made great advances in mathematics, physics, astronomy, medicine, botany,
chemistry. The Moors also introduced the first shooting mechanisms or
rifles known as firesticks! -which revolutionized European military
science, ultimately causing their downfall when their enemies used
gunpowder to drive them back into Africa. Their contributtions to
European civilization is vast - with no credit given to them. For more
details, Ivan Van Sertima, ed: The Golden Age of the Moors, and Samuel
Scott: The History of the Morish Empier in Europe.

The white Founding Fathers built America on Black Egypt's knowledge.

As revealed in Anthony Browder's fascinating From the Browder File, the
Founding Fathers sought to recreate in America the same energies which
guided the Africans ofthe Nile Valley by using African science,
architecture and symbols (with no credit to them) as shown:

* The Found Fathers and all the U.S. presidnets were Masons (except
Lincoln 7 Kennedy). Masons and other secret orders such as the
Rosicrucians 7 Illuminati are patterned after the Sacered Mystery Schools
(universities) of ancient Egypt. The word 'Mason' means 'child of the
sun' and is derived from the African terms Sons 7 Daughters of Light (or
Children of the Sun). The sun symbolizes enlightenment, hence these
metaphors mean 'enlightened people.' The Declaration of Independence and
U.S. Constitution are Masonic documents, written in the Masonic code and
have different meaning to members of the Masonic order.

* Look on the back of the dollar bill and see for yourself how the
Founding Fathers composed the Great Seal of America with African
symbols: The Eye of Horus/God, pyramid, six-pointed star (made up of 13
stars), and the eagle -their imitation of Egypt's sacred sun Falcon, a
symbol for Horus. Stan Deyo's provacative Cosmic Conspiracy provides
more insights.

* The Washington monument, a symbol of America, is an African obelisk!
The obelisk was the symbol of the very Black Egyptian god, Osiris who
represneted the regeneative powers of God and was worshiped as the
impregnating ofrce of the universe. The obelisk later became part of the
worship of the Egyptian Sun God, "Ra," from which we get the words "ra,
radiation." The obelisk is also found at the Vatican in St. Peter's
square and in every major city in the wolrd. It is the origin of church
steeples!

* Egyptian Design: The Lincoln Memorial is patterned after an Egyptian
temple honoring the pharaoh, Ramsese II. Meridian Hill Park (aka Malcolm
X Park) was designed to align Washington D.C. to the same meridian
(pathway to the sun) which passes through Egypt. So-called European
architecture (like the Capitol, Parthenon, cathedrals) is copied from
African architecture! (mosques, obelisks, temples)

* A Black scientist designed the city. The layout and design of
Washington D.C. was accomplished by America's first Black man of science,
Benjamin Banneker - astronomer and mathematician.

[jonnyofthedead]

Ruling Spain, southern France, much of Scotland & North Africa during the Middle ages for 700 years

Scotland?

Someone needs to re-read their history, I think. There were a couple of black ladies in the Scottish court in the 1500s, apparently, but they were hardly rulers.

Contact with the Moors certainly helped pull Europe out of its "w00t, man-sized tin cans!" stage of development, but it's daft to say that "no credit is given to them." One need only briefly visit Seville or Cordoba to see the way their legacy is maintained and respected.

AND there was a Moor in that Robin Hood flick with Kevin Costner. What greater recognition could be sought?

[Hannibal]

I consider Moorish Spain to be one of the greatest civilizations on Earth. It's right up there on the same plateau as Rome, Greece and Babylonia.

[turtle_o]

hhmm interesting.
like whoa and stuff.

[Johnson]

>>> The white Founding Fathers built America on Black Egypt's knowledge.

LOOOOOOOOOL

Where is your link to this afrocentric humor?

[Ironweed]

Originally posted by MF_DOOM

* A Black scientist designed the city. The layout and design of
Washington D.C. was accomplished by America's first Black man of science,
Benjamin Banneker - astronomer and mathematician.

Errm, that would be "nope," at least from a 10 second google. It appears we got a Frenchy who himself fired, followed by a guy named Ellicott who was helped with surveying boundaries by Banneker. Quite a bit different from designing the city.

I knew it was L'Enfant, but was unaware that he was fired and ran off with the plans, and that Ellicott's brother Benjamin had to recall from memory.

http://dcpages.ari.net/Hwdc/wdc.html

President Washington commissioned Pierre L'Enfant, a French architect, to design the new city. L'Enfant's original name, Washingtonople, didn't last; however, parts of his dream for the layout still exist today, including the Washington Monument.

L'Enfant was fired partially into the construction of Washington, D.C., and was replaced by city survey or Andrew Ellicott (whose father founded Ellicott City, Maryland). Ellicott replaced L'Enfant's name on the design map with his own, and construction work resumed.

In an attempt to finish the city by 1800, the appointed city commissioners announced a contest for Capitol Building and Presidential Mansion designs. Entries came from far and wide, and even from a mysterious person who signed "A.Z." on their intricate design for the Presidential Mansion (later revealed to be then-Vice President Thomas Jefferson).

http://www.geocities.com/bobarnebeck/swamp1800.html

While Benjamin Banneker helped Ellicott survey the district line in 1791, the story about Banneker recalling L'Enfant's plan from memory, so that the plan could be engraved after L'Enfant quit, is not true. Andrew Ellicott's letter to the commissioners showing that it was his brother Benjamin Ellicott, not Benjamin Banneker, who helped him prepare a map of the city for engravers after L'Enfant refused his use of the original plan.

Note: quite a bit of good material at this link on the contreversy. I'm trying to keep my c&ps to reasonable length, so check it out.

http://www.geocities.com/bobarnebeck/ellicott.html

How did the myth of Banneker helping Ellicott remember the plan take hold? I believe it is because the first name of the brother who helped Ellicott is Benjamin, and so Benjamin Banneker was mistaken for Benjamin Ellicott. I think it is nonsense to assume that when L'Enfant refused access to the "original" plan that meant that Ellicott had to rely on memory to reconstruct the plan. L'Enfant had the "large" plan. Ellicott probably had access to small renditions or drafts of the plan which, of course, he and his brother had helped create by their surveys of the city.

[Manstein]

Originally posted by Hannibal
I consider Moorish Spain to be one of the greatest civilizations on Earth.

Yes I agree. The way they managed to live in relative peace with the Christians who lived there also was remarkable. You should see the movie "El Cid" where El Cid allies with the Moor's, to kick out a radical Moor who invades and wants to establish a hardcore Islamic kingdom.

Although I cant say I didnt like seeing the Moors finally get kicked out by Ferdinand and Isabella. The Moors arrived there because of aggressive territorial acquisition aka Empire lol, so it was only fitting their expansion collapsed after several hundred years.

[FaDe]

The Moors were not black. . .

http://www.angelfire.com/md/8/moors.html

[turtle_o]

Originally posted by FaDe
The Moors were not black. . .

oh c'mon, havent we already established the point that one drop of blood from any part of africa makes a person Black, especially despite how they look.....
and of course somewhere along the way from the mid-east to spain they must've bumped along north africa. . .

ta-dah, now the moors are black.
*shrug*

who cares about blackness or not anyways? (it just really gets to me, when a group is a mix, and that mixing is what helps makes them unique and then someone says they are just one thing.)

[FaDe]

oh c'mon, havent we already established the point that one drop of blood from any part of africa makes a person Black, especially despite how they look..... and of course somewhere along the way from the mid-east to spain they must've bumped along north africa. . .

The Moors, and the Spanish in particular, were NOT Black. Its that simple. The Spanish also expelled whatever offspring there had been between the native Spanish and the Moors (who were not Black) after Spain was reconquered by the way. The Spanish also expelled the Jews as well. I am not sure if you have ever seen the movie 1492: Conquest of Paradise about Christopher Columbus but in the beginning it depicts the Jews being forced out of Spain.

[Johnson]

I'll have to rent that one.

[Sulla the Dictator]

Originally posted by Hannibal
I consider Moorish Spain to be one of the greatest civilizations on Earth. It's right up there on the same plateau as Rome

You're out of your mind.

[Kareem]

well, whatever color they were.....the moors werent white christians

[Cd.]

Note also: The worlds oldest modern Universities were in the Arab world. The University of Tunis dates from the 8th century. Similar universities exist in Cairo Egypt, Fez Morocco and in other Islamic nations. THey were usually attached to Mosques. This is interesting when you note that Paris and Oxford were not founded until the 11th Centuries. Some Italian schools did exist earlier but the oldest of these, the University of Salarno was started in the 9th century, about 200 years after the University of Tunis.

[FaDe]

I'll have to rent that one.

They were banished from England for 370 years.

[Manstein]

Originally posted by Kareem
well, whatever color they were.....the moors werent white christians

Heaven forbid they were "white christians".

Thats the LAST thing anyone would want to be right?

[MF_DOOM]

umm of course they werent white christians.