The peacfull religion of islam

[CYLLON]

http://washingtontimes.com/national/...2-92397576.htm

The above has the islamists demandding one thing of othere they will not give themselves.

We are watching your Muslim brothers in Nigeria rampaging through the streets of Lagos, randomly stabbing, slashing, burning, killing. Perhaps so many as 100 are dead. Hundreds more are injured. And just what was it that brought these gentle, peaceful Muslims to this level of rage?

It seems some newspaper in Lagos ran a column speculating that the Prophet Muhammad, and we know just how gentle and peaceful he was, might be interested in one of the Miss World contestants if he were alive today.

Well! No wonder Muslims are rampaging and killing! That is certainly an offence that demands the death of hundreds of innocents, isn?t it?Since he had many wives and some rather young,it makes since.The death toll in Nigeria's Muslim rioting has topped 100, the BBC reports, and the violence has spread from the northern city of Kaduna to the capital, Abuja. "The BBC's Haruna Bahago in Abuja says people armed with sticks, daggers and knives set fire to vehicles and attacked anyone they suspected of being Christian." An Associated Press dispatch relays this story:

Shehu Sani of the Kaduna-based Civil Rights Congress said he watched a crowd stab one young man, then force a tire filled with gasoline around his neck and burn him alive. Sani said he saw three other bodies elsewhere in the city.

Islam, as we keep hearing, is a religion of peace. And if you dare to criticize or make light of it, may you rest in peace.



Here in the U.S. we were making jokes yesterday about what sort of car Jesus would drive. Were some offended? Surely they were. Did they take to the streets to kill innocents? Don?t think so. Well, I guess that?s just all the proof we need that Islam is the way to go, isn?t it? I mean, who would want to be a part of a religion that doesn?t engage in a good killing spree every now and then?

Now they're gunning down missionaries helping pregnant women.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...on_american_dc

three bullets to the head at a church clinic for pregnant women .How brave of the nobel peacfull religion.

THOSE WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL MUSLIMS ?
? bombed a bus full of school children in Israel today. They also killed an American missionary .. a woman .. in Lebanon. What a wonderful religion.


Was it not falwell that was blasting muhamed as a terrorirst not long ago and the peacefull religion of islam responded by rioting in the streets,prooving his point?

"The Bali bombers were paid about $10 in blood money for every person who died in the attack on the Sari Club in Kuta last month," the Australian Associated Press reports. " 'They were given the money to say thank you about the Bali bombing success,' police spokesman Edward Aritonang was reported as saying."

[Snouter]

Originally posted by CYLLON
It seems some newspaper in Lagos ran a column speculating that the Prophet Muhammad, and we know just how gentle and peaceful he was, might be interested in one of the Miss World contestants if he were alive today.

Maybe the newspaper insulted Mohammad because he would have not be interested in just one, he would want them all just like he did in the later years of his life when he was raiding caravans and cutting people's heads off.

Here in the U.S. we were making jokes yesterday about what sort of car Jesus would drive.

Excellent observation. I noticed that story on all the broadcasts and thought there is so much stuff to cover, why would they come up with that idiotic topic.

Now they're gunning down missionaries helping pregnant women.

All humanitarian aid must cease. Someone from Connecticut recently got shot by Mugabe's thugs while trying to deliver food and other materials to some school in the racist hell hole known as Zimbabwe in which whites are being eradicated and their land stolen.

[sawbones25]

Hey, where do I sign up???
Can't wait to get worship'n with these guys...

[Redfield]

Originally posted by CYLLON
It seems some newspaper in Lagos ran a column speculating that the Prophet Muhammad, and we know just how gentle and peaceful he was, might be interested in one of the Miss World contestants if he were alive today.

Now I'd pay to see that.

Does anyone have a link to that article?

"The BBC's Haruna Bahago in Abuja says people armed with sticks, daggers and knives set fire to vehicles and attacked anyone they suspected of being Christian."

Islam, as we keep hearing, is a religion of peace. And if you dare to criticize or make light of it, may you rest in peace.

This is why it's been so hard for me to defend Islam. Even playing the devil's advocate for this "religion" is impossible.

[Cd.]

Modern Islam does have its share of zealots and it is the fanatics who get all the press. Remember though that most of todays religions have their lunitic frindge.

Remember that it was the Christians who had a Crusade that invaded the holy land, pillaged and murdered Jews and Muslams. The Spanish killed thousands of infidels in the new world.

Remember that the old testiment of the Bible speaks of Moses, Joshua, Nathan and others committing massacures of civilian populations in the name of God.

I will not say that Islamic extremists are right all of the time but there are some muslams who do not hate.

[buggy]

Originally posted by Criminal
Modern Islam does have its share of zealots and it is the fanatics who get all the press. Remember though that most of todays religions have their lunitic frindge.

I keep listening to people repeat that, but I see no evidence of a modern Islam *anywhere*.

[frankiep]

its not a religion, it's a cult

[CYLLON]

Modern Islam does have its share of zealots and it is the fanatics who get all the press. Remember though that most of todays religions have their lunitic frindge.

The islamists are the ones making and definning the religion while the so called moderates sit by and dolittle to nothing against a fellow muslim.From egyptian,saudi clericks to palestinian P.A. and syrian and pakistani clearicks,the islamist are clearly the ones in controle.



Remember that it was the Christians who had a Crusade that invaded the holy land, pillaged and murdered Jews and Muslams. The Spanish killed thousands of infidels in the new world.

I could have swore we were living past the 20th century?

Always bringging up the crusades because they have no equivilant to compare the Islamafascists to anywhere near modern times.Thus,we confirm they are throwback barbarrians that are borderline inhuman deviants.Out of all the conflicts in the world today,Most of them{darn near all** involve islamist.

Remember that the old testiment of the Bible speaks of Moses, Joshua, Nathan and others committing massacures of civilian populations in the name of God.

See a context.Commparing those that practised child sacrifice and other sick things to modern day justification for Islamafascists is weak at best,and when was the last time the old testament was used for genecide on a scale as this.See above.

Assuming that the Bible is true{ I am not saying it is or not here,just trying to come from another perspective**,how does that justify the islamist actions in anyway?
One of the grotesque clichés we keep hearing from supporters of and apologists for terror is that those of us who take a clear-eyed view of the evil today emanating from the Arab and Muslim worlds are "dehumanizing" Arabs and Muslims. In truth, it is precisely because Arabs and Muslims are human--capable, as these incidents illustrate of the full range of moral behavior, from heroism to cowardice to depravity--that we must not shrink from condemning them when they commit evil acts.


I will not say that Islamic extremists are right all of the time but there are some muslams who do not hate. Hidding from the death sentance they will recieve no doubt.

[Unrepresented]

First of all, the attrocities that the article describes are ridiculous. Anyone who participated in the acts should be punished by law.

That said, this is not the entire religion. This is an act of some, all of whom should be punished, but not all of those who didn't.

If you can practice Islam without hurting people, you should be allowed to, until you can no longer maintain that peace.

Justin

[CYLLON]

"The decision to switch the venue for the competition to London came hours after the rioting - which has claimed more than 100 lives in Kaduna - spread to the capital Abuja, with Muslim youths rampaging through the streets.

Miss World contestants - who have been in Nigeria for nearly two weeks, attending preliminary events in mainly Christian, southern areas - are due to fly out of the country on Saturday.

One of the contestants, Paula Murphy - Miss Scotland - said Miss World was not worth dying for.

"We're being used as the excuse. People are killing each other and saying it is all about Miss World - I can't have that. I'm coming home", she told Britain's Sun newspaper."

[CYLLON]

ttp://www.danielpipes.org/article/394

CAIR: 'Moderate' friends of terror
by Daniel Pipes


The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations presents itself as
just another civil-rights group. "We are similar to a Muslim NAACP," says
spokesman Ibrahim Hooper. Its public language - about promoting "interest and
understanding among the general public with regards to Islam and Muslims in
North America" - certainly boosts an image of moderation.

That reputation has permitted CAIR to prosper since its founding in 1994,
garnering sizeable donations, invitations to the White House, respectful media
citations and a serious hearing by corporations.

In reality, CAIR is something quite different. For starters, it's on the wrong side in
the war on terrorism. One indication came in October 1998, when the group
demanded the removal of a Los Angeles billboard describing Osama bin Laden as
"the sworn enemy," finding this depiction "offensive to Muslims."

The same year, CAIR denied bin Laden's responsibility for the twin East African
embassy bombings. As Hooper saw it, those explosions resulted from some vague
"misunderstandings of both sides." (A New York court, however, blamed bin
Laden's side alone for the embassy blasts.)

In 2001, CAIR denied his culpability for the Sept. 11 massacre, saying only that "if
[note the "if"] Osama bin Laden was behind it, we condemn him by name." (Only
in December was CAIR finally embarrassed into acknowledging his role.)

CAIR consistently defends other militant Islamic terrorists too. The conviction of
the perpetrators of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing it deemed "a travesty of
justice." The conviction of Omar Abdel Rahman, the blind sheikh who planned to
blow up New York City landmarks, it called a "hate crime." The extradition order
for suspected Hamas terrorist Mousa Abu Marook it labeled "anti-Islamic" and
"anti-American."

Not surprisingly, CAIR also backs those who finance terrorism. When President
Bush closed the Holy Land Foundation in December for collecting money he said
was "used to support the Hamas terror organization," CAIR decried his action as
"unjust" and "disturbing."

CAIR even includes at least one person associated with terrorism in its own ranks.
On Feb. 2, 1995, U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White named Siraj Wahhaj as one of the
"unindicted persons who may be alleged as co-conspirators" in the attempt to blow
up New York City monuments. Yet CAIR deems him "one of the most respected
Muslim leaders in America" and includes him on its advisory board.

For these and other reasons, the FBI's former chief of counterterrorism, Steven
Pomerantz, concludes that "CAIR, its leaders and its activities effectively give aid
to international terrorist groups."

Nor is terrorism the only disturbing aspect of CAIR's record. Other problems
include:

Intimidating moderate Muslims. In at least two cases (Hisham Kabbani and Khalid
Durán), CAIR has defamed moderate Muslims who reject its extremist agenda,
leading to death threats against them.

Embracing murderers. CAIR responded to the arrest and conviction of Jamil
Al-Amin (the former H. Rap Brown) by praising him, raising funds for him and then
denying his guilt after his conviction for the murder of an Atlanta policeman.
Likewise with Ahmad Adnan Chaudhry of San Bernardino, Calif.: Disregarding his
conviction for attempting murder, CAIR declared him "innocent" and set up a
defense fund for him.

Promoting anti-Semitism. The head of CAIR's Los Angeles office, Hussam Ayloush,
routinely uses the term "zionazi" when referring to Israelis. CAIR co-hosted an
event in May 1998 at which an Egyptian militant Islamic leader, Wagdi Ghunaym,
called Jews the "descendants of the apes."

Aggressive ambitions. As reported by the San Ramon Valley Herald, CAIR
Chairman Omar M. Ahmad told a crowd of California Muslims in July 1998, "Islam
isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran
. . . should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted
religion on earth."

CAIR's real record is one of extremism. North American Muslims themselves are
beginning to discover - and the government, leading media, churches, and
businesses should follow - that CAIR represents not the noble civilization of Islam
but an aggressive and radical strain similar to that which led to the suicide
hijackings last September. CAIR must be shunned as a fringe group by
responsible institutions and individuals throughout North America.

[CYLLON]

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...55E401,00.html

Nine dead in ambush

November 24, 2002
NINE soldiers were killed and 12 wounded in an ambush by an armed group in the area of Tizi Ouzou in Kabylia, the Algerian APS news agency said.

APS said the soldiers were heading back to their camp when armed assailants set off a bomb in the soldiers' path as they drove down a forest road, about 80km north-east of Tizi Ouzou, and then opened fire on them.

The attackers, whose number was not known, then fled into the Bounaama forest, the agency said. The region of the attack lies east of the capital Algiers.

Thirteen people, including four policemen, were killed and six soldiers wounded by suspected Islamist militants earlier this week.

The latest incident brings to at least 40 the number of people killed by violence in Algeria since the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan started on November 6, according to official and press figures.

[Banky]

Originally posted by Criminal
Remember that it was the Christians who had a Crusade that invaded the holy land, pillaged and murdered Jews and Muslams. The Spanish killed thousands of infidels in the new world.

Christians didnt invade the Holy Land. They were there since Jesus. It is Islam that invaded and threw them out. Christian Armies came back to the land they were thrown out of.

Remember that the old testiment of the Bible speaks of Moses, Joshua, Nathan and others committing massacures of civilian populations in the name of God.

No, it does not. Please tell me of this mentioning in the Bible, I would like to see what you are talking about, especially since the only war Moses was in was when the Amalekites attacked Israel as they were trying to leave Egypt, did I miss one?

[CYLLON]

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20021126-14786718.htm

By Larry Witham

Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson said yesterday the news media and political leaders have failed to educate Americans about violence in the Koran and in Islamic history and wishes President Bush had never said that "Islam is a religion of peace."

"He is not elected as chief theologian," Mr. Robertson said.
It would have been better for the president to speak only politically about the Islamic world, and not religiously.
"It is leading to needless confusion," Mr. Robertson said in an interview with The Washington Times.
Mr. Robertson's comments in the past year have been a major part of the public debate on how a predominantly Christian nation responds to a foreign enemy with Islamic roots.
The public would be better served, Mr. Robertson said, if the media would investigate the content of the Koran and what he says are many passages that incite Muslims to kill nonbelievers. But reporting on that, he said, "is not politically correct."
He said that the violence visited on Christians in many nations, such as Sudan and Nigeria, arises from Shariah, or Muslim law, showing that the violent behavior is tied to Islamic beliefs.
Though Mr. Robertson relinquished his Baptist ordination to run for the Republican presidential nomination in 1988, he has taken it up again and describes his primary work as promoting Christianity.
For 18 years, his Christian Broadcasting Network had an Arab-language broadcast station in Lebanon, but he said that "it was overrun by Hezbollah," a terrorist group.
"In terms of Islam, I don't think the issues have been ventilated at all in the press because no one has read the Koran," he said.
Still, he said civil liberties in the United States are too important to allow the U.S. government the extra powers of domestic surveillance that it is asking for and that law-abiding Muslim citizens also must have protection.
"I have never advocated ferreting out Muslims in America," he said. "They are citizens like I am. But if they are funneling money to Hamas, organizing terrorist cells or holding anti-American rallies, they ought to be deported."
U.S. Muslim groups have organized a yearlong project to put a package of books and a PBS video on Islam, all by American authors, in the nation's 16,000 public libraries to promote understanding of the religion.
The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) reports that supporters have sent in 4,219 "sponsorships" of $150 each to pay for the library package, but the number of libraries accepting them is not yet clear.
"It's a yearlong campaign, and it will take a year or so to sort that [number] out," said CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper.
Last week, Mr. Hooper said on a New York radio show that conservative religious leaders such as Mr. Robertson were "equivalent" to Osama bin Laden because they want to divide the world into a religious war.
When asked whether Christian leaders would urge killing members of a different faith as bin Laden has done, Mr. Hooper said: "Given the right circumstance, these guys would do the same in the opposite direction."
Though CAIR often demands apologies from groups that criticize Islam, Mr. Hooper would not apologize for his radio comment.
He also confirmed reports that a Saudi billionaire, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal bin Abdul Aziz al Saud, donated $500,000 to CAIR for the educational push. "I think most of it is going for the library project," Mr. Hooper said.
The report about the Saudi money prompted conservative activist Paul Weyrich, chairman of the Free Congress Foundation, yesterday to say that while libraries have intellectual freedom, the library packages "present a highly misleading view of Islam, spray-painting over the religion's long history of animosity to Western values."
He called for the American Library Association to issue a statement on the problems with stocking a one-sided view of Islam and urged the use of materials written by his foundation's staff.
Mr. Hooper said a positive image of Islam is important to protect the civil rights of Muslims in the United States. He cited the FBI report yesterday that "hate crimes" against people of Middle Eastern ethnicity had increased from 28 in 2000 to 481 in 2001 across the country.
Mr. Robertson said he opposed as "bad law" the government's plans, even in a time of war, to electronically track the lives of all Americans.
"As the war on terrorism is going forward, the thing I'm concerned about is how much government control they'll have" on Americans' domestic life, he said.
Meanwhile, he said his main business is not Islam but Christian evangelism.
"I don't want to change my ministry and become some kind of Muslim fighter," he said. "I don't want to alienate Muslim people around the world," whom he believes want more information about the West and even Christianity.
But Islam is "a deeply held religious belief pushed by mullahs all over the world" as a basis for attacking Jews and Christians, he said. "Maybe we can counter it by American propaganda. Maybe we can counter it by love."

[CYLLON]

http://www.frontpagemag.com/media/Ca...as_Warrior.jpg

[sawbones25]

Man, they're gonna kill the guy that drew that cartoon...

[Cosmo]

Probably shoot him in the back, don't you know.

[86Dude]

Originally posted by Criminal
Modern Islam does have its share of zealots and it is the fanatics who get all the press. Remember though that most of todays religions have their lunitic frindge.

Remember that it was the Christians who had a Crusade that invaded the holy land, pillaged and murdered Jews and Muslams. The Spanish killed thousands of infidels in the new world.

Remember that the old testiment of the Bible speaks of Moses, Joshua, Nathan and others committing massacures of civilian populations in the name of God.

I will not say that Islamic extremists are right all of the time but there are some muslams who do not hate.

Yes, and then the christians had that nice little thing called the "Reformation", something not yet seen by the growing fanatical hordes of extreme Islam.

The big problem with Islam is that it is no only a religion, but also is a political entity wielding complete and total control of the masses at the state level. Religion and the state are one in the same, with it, in nearly every instance you will find a midevil world of terrorists, murder, no free speech, torture, slavery, I mean we could go on all day here.


The non radical Muslims among us need to step up. We do not hate them, and they have nothing to fear from real Americans. They need not find solidarity with their lunatic Islamic brothers, because we are on their side. To that end, it isn't particularly smart for the Jerry Falwells of the world to start bashing allah, truth or not, for to do so only pushes moderate Islam further away, and folks it is going to be either Moderate Islam or NO ISLAM in tomorrow's world. AK wielding, cro magnon knuckle draggers will be rightfully exterminated from this planet by all means necessary. Additionally, it is not at all surprising that Bush has wisely, to much press attention, implored christian leaders to refrain from such antagonization. It is of absolutely no benefit to us to rally normally peaceful people against us from within our own borders. If any of you really, really think that we have anything to fear from moderate muslims amongst us, please remember, that unlike Nigeria, Islamic leaders inside the U.S. DID NOT call for Falwell's death.

[CYLLON]

I beleive the true christian calling to spred the gospel was exemplified by pauls method.
He met them where they were.He did not ridicule,belittle or insult them.
Fallwell needs to read up on his freind pauls methods.

[Banky]

Originally posted by CYLLON
I beleive the true christian calling to spred the gospel was exemplified by pauls method.
He met them where they were.He did not ridicule,belittle or insult them.
Fallwell needs to read up on his freind pauls methods.

Falwell and others have done that. Well before 9/11, the call to evangelize Muslims was there, you didnt hear them say these things because the entire Muslim world was not mobilizing against us as about 30% of them are now.

That is why they no longer speakof conversion, they speak of preparing for war. Sound advice.