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10-13-2002, 12:10 AM
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Terror Blast in Bali?
Australians missing after terror blast
From staff reporters and wires October 13, 2002 TERRORISTS were today blamed for a huge bomb which killed more than 150 people as it ripped through two bars packed with foreign tourists, including many Australians, on the Indonesian resort island of Bali. The explosion completely destroyed the bars in the tourist district of Kuta and triggered an intense blaze which burned for hours as rescuers struggled to ferry scores of injured people to hospital. Traumatised foreign tourists - many covered in blood or with horrific burn injuries - stumbled around the scene looking for loved ones or fled hotel rooms for the safety of the beaches. Many Australians were among the casualties and Foreign Minister Alexander Downer said it appeared the blast was a terrorist attack while pointing the finger of suspicion at al-Qaeda. No figures were available for the number of Australian killed, although Downer said at least 40 Australians were in hospitals, including 15 seriously injured. "It is almost certain that several Australians will have been killed," Downer said. The bars were packed with Australians, many of them footballers from NSW, Victoria, South Australia and Western Australia on end-of-season tours. The blasts come just weeks after the United States reopened its diplomatic missions in Indonesia following a shutdown over the September 11 anniversary caused by fears of new attacks by the al-Qaeda network. Shortly after the blast at around 11pm (0100 Sunday AEST) last night at the Sari Club a second bomb exploded near the honorary US consulate on the island, without causing casualties. Nobody claimed responsibility. "There are charred and mangled bodies everywhere, it is unbelievable," said French photographer Cyril Terrien at the scene. "I have never seen such an appalling thing in my life." Witnesses said the blast devastated the Padi bar and the Sari Club across the street, which has a garden that is popular with young foreign tourists, and also ripped apart nearby shops and vehicles. "We have counted 150 bodies but more are yet to be counted," said Putu Prata Wisada, a doctor at Sanglah hospital in Denpasar, some 15km north of the site. Bali Police Chief Brigadier General Budi Setiawan told Metro TV the explosion was caused by a bomb, while a senior military official said he believed TNT was used. Setiawan said witnesses spoke of two separate explosions, a small one followed by a more powerful one seconds later, but he declined to confirm reports it was a car bomb despite the large hole some 1.5 metres deep in the road in front of the Sari Club. Karim Ansel, 27, from Paris, was in a restaurant around 100 metres away when he also heard two separate explosions. "Everybody was shouting and screaming, there was dust all over the place. Somebody asked me if an aeroplane had fallen on top of us," said a shocked Ansel, who arrived in Bali on holiday 10 days ago. "As I came out I saw awful, awful things. One person was absolutely covered in blood, another woman was running with her clothes burned onto her body." About 125 casualties were ferried to Sanglah hospital and several other hospitals in Denpasar, hospital officials said. An official at Sanglah hospital morgue who identified himself as Wayan said that most of the bodies were foreigners. Witnesses said body parts were scattered across the site and on the roofs of surrounding buildings. In a second incident, there was an explosion just 250 metres from the US consulate in the Denpasar suburb of Renon, Bali Police spokesman Suyatmo said. "The blast took place on the side of the road and there was no one injured because the homemade bomb was apparently thrown and exploded some 250 metres from the US consulate general," he said. Downer said an RAAF medical assistance and evacuation team was on its way to Bali to assist hospitals on the island which have been swamped with injured. He said the government had been concerned about the possibility of an attack in Indonesia for some time after an organisation called Jemaah Islamiyah tried to attack Australian, British and US targets in Singapore last year. "Jemaah Islamiyah, JI as it's known, does have links to al-Qaeda, it has financial as well as personnel links to al-Qaeda, and it's conceivable that an organisation like that could be behind this action," he said. Bali, a postcard paradise island that is about 95 per cent Hindu, is a magnet for holiday makers from Europe, Australia and the United States. Until now it has avoided much of the unrest that has rocked Indonesia since the fall of the Suharto regime after the 1997-98 financial crisis. The United States has issued repeated warnings in recent months over fears Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, may be home to al-Qaeda sympathisers. After months of official denials, senior Indonesian military officials late last month said they believed al-Qaeda might have a limited network in the country. The change in attitude coincided with the revelation that former Indonesian resident Omar al-Faruq had admitted under interrogation in US custody to being al-Qaeda's top representative in South-East Asia. --______________________________________________ My partner and I were kind of planning a trip to Bali at the end of the year....guess not so much now  Poor people.
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10-13-2002, 10:32 AM
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It was easy while most of these terrorist *******s were blowing up Israelis...but things have changed. Europe of course will remain with it's collective head in the sand, but nobody expected anything else of them. Australia now...a different story perhaps. Time will tell. Meanwhile, I'm glad I'm in the U.S. Apparently almost alone in this world willing to confront this monster. Oh...oops. My bad, I forgot it's 'all about oil'. 
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10-13-2002, 11:00 AM
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Australia has backed the US all the way...apparently. We sent troops etc over...our people were killed just like yours were. Not to the same extent and no, we didnt feel the loss the way you all did with the WTC, but Australia...to be quite frank, is pissweak compared to the US. But we are trying. Regardless of what some of the citizens may believe or want...our troops etc are and were in Afghanistan when needed.
Its only an assumption that its terrorists at this point in time...no one has claimed it yet. Besides...dont you find it odd that it was Bali that got "hit".
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10-13-2002, 11:10 AM
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It's beyond assumption. It was a car bomb, they know that now. Not sure why it would be 'odd' that Bali was the target. The place is a prime tourist destination....western tourists. Makes sense from a terror viewpoint in that nobody expected something like that there. This goes to show that all non-muslims, (and even the odd muslim that does'nt toe the line), are targets. The world needs to present a unified front, and fight this together.
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10-13-2002, 11:14 AM
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Yes, you are right..I guess its odd to me because I never actually though Bali would be on the list of places...I would have figured terrorists might have hit Britain next or somewhere else in Europe. But yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Its just that its...Bali.
Al-Qaeda group 'behind bombing' October 13, 2002 AL-QAEDA South-East Asian network Jemaah Islamiyah is responsible for the terrorist attack on Bali, a leading expert on the group has said. Rohan Gunaratna said it was likely the group had deliberately targeted Australians and other Westerners by bombing a popular nightclub in Bali. Mr Gunaratna, the author of the book Inside al-Qaeda, earlier this month said Australia was on the terrorist group's international target list for attack. He said today the Bali attack showed al-Qaeda and Jemaah Islamiyah (JI) were active across the region. "The organisation called JI invests significant resources and assets before they conduct a terrorist operation, to figure out who their victims will be," he told ABC television. "In this instance it's very clear that this attack was aimed at Australians and Westerners." Mr Gunaratna said the Australian government had to work with other countries across South-East Asia to target al-Qaeda and JI. He said that without disrupting the terror organisations, Australians would face terrorist activity within their own country. "It is a question of time that the threat will move into Australia unless these terrorist networks in Australia's immediate neighbourhood are not disrupted," he said. "The Australian government must work very closely with South-East Asian governments to disrupt, degrade and destroy al-Qaeda and associated groups of al-Qaeda active in South-East Asia." AAP
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10-13-2002, 03:56 PM
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the straight fact is...MOST muslims are peaceful, loving ppl...and u cant refute that
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10-13-2002, 04:26 PM
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Instead, we hear silence. In Indonesia, with the largest muslim population in the world, they say they al queda has no pressence, this in the face of evidence to the contrary. In Saudi Arabia, we hear that their mosques could'nt possibly be involved in recruiting terrorists, when in fact the mosques are used to weekly diseminate messages of hate about the west. And was'nt it Ayatolah Khomeni that stated anyone who believed that Islam was a religion of 'peace' should be shot?
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10-13-2002, 08:54 PM
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"if you follow this religion and someone that also follows this religion does something wrong..you have to condemn it" thats what your saying
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10-13-2002, 09:10 PM
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Thats the way it usually works.
After all it is THIER religion under the spotlight. After all these guys crashed those planes in the name of Allah. Some explainin needs to be done.
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10-13-2002, 09:12 PM
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10-13-2002, 09:17 PM
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Ive read plenty, and I've read contradictory stuff, I;d like to hear what the leaders of it say.
In foreign lands they are chanting "death to america'. In america they havent said a damn word either way, with the exception of one guy.
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10-14-2002, 11:13 AM
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Of all the Indonesian islands,Bali is the most beautiful and the most peaceful and the Balinese the friendliest.It is even more strange that another Island Borneo is the lowest on the ladder and you rightly say Dngr Mse,why Bali. Not many visit Borneo with the odd missionary. I believe that about 4 Dutch died in the attack The Balinese culture is the best in Indonesia
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10-14-2002, 11:33 AM
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10-14-2002, 11:36 AM
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10-14-2002, 11:37 AM
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10-14-2002, 03:37 PM
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