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Old 06-12-2007, 11:51 AM
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Question How can one claim to be Christian but hate the jews?

Trying to figure this one out. Does not compute.
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:18 PM
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Take a trip to ireland and Scotland where they hate other Christians and you'll get a flavour of religious intolerance
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How can one claim to be Christian but hate the jews?
One can't. It goes against all the rules of Christianity and Jesus would be most displeased.

If you ever meet a Christian who says that they hate Jews (or anyone else for that matter), you can very safely conclude that they are either lying or they are not a Christian. Or possibly that they are a Christian, but not a very good one.

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We use to tolerate each other pretty good here in US . Now the whole nation is one big hate farm for christians and God beleiving jews . Secular's just hate anyone who dissagrees with their agendas .
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I think there is no reason for Christians to hate Jews. Does anyone think that's a widespread feeling among Christians in this country? I don't.
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One can claim to be anything without actually being what is claimed.
Thus, I think the answer to the OP is that a lot of self proclaimed Christians really aren't.
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Trying to figure this one out. Does not compute.
It's easy to figure out. A Christian can lie as well as any other human being.
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Because they killed Jesus, DUH!
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Because they killed Jesus, DUH!
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There are many , many examples of christian antisemitism, beginning with the the new testament , Thessalonians 2:14-15 , criticisms of the pharisees etc ... and continuing with the writings of many church elders over the centuries.

In large measure, the partial reconciliation has been a recent one

Many catholics I knew as a kid were deeply distrustful of Jews
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The more I think about this question, the more I think that calling one's self Christian is essentially meaningless.
You can point to a single book that they all believe. But there are a million different interpretations of that book.
And because of that you have so many denominations. So you have to say "I'm Catholic" or "I'm Baptist" for it to mean anything. And if you can have that many interpretations that are valid, then it must be a poorly written book I figure.
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One can't. It goes against all the rules of Christianity and Jesus would be most displeased.

If you ever meet a Christian who says that they hate Jews (or anyone else for that matter), you can very safely conclude that they are either lying or they are not a Christian. Or possibly that they are a Christian, but not a very good one.
Mmmm, pretty much all said here.
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Take a trip to ireland and Scotland where they hate other Christians and you'll get a flavour of religious intolerance
It should be obvious to you especially that all that fighting was and is political. One political side is Catholic, the other Protestant, and became necissarly so as can be seen if you know the history of those places. The extreme street fighters on both sides were taught to hate the other side and were always referred by their religious denomination which was missleading. But, it was political from the start.

P.S. And Ireland is spelled with a capital I.

Sorry about the deviation folks, but I had to set this one straight.

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Fighting between different religions that all claim to be peaceful just re-enforces my theory that religion is more about community than it is about beliefs. People don't follow religion because it makes sense to do so. People follow religion because they perceive it as the glue that holds their community together. People follow religion to gain social status, and they defend their religion as though they were defending their friends and family, because they are unable to distinguish between the two.
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There are many , many examples of christian antisemitism, beginning with the the new testament , Thessalonians 2:14-15 , criticisms of the pharisees etc ... and continuing with the writings of many church elders over the centuries.
Jesus himself criticized the pharisees! Jesus was a Jew. I don't think criticism or pointing out disagreements constitutes "hate".
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It should be obvious to you especially that all that fighting was and is political. One political side is Catholic, the other Protestant, and became necissarly so as can be seen if you know the history of those places. The extreme street fighters on both sides were taught to hate the other side and were always referred by their religious denomination which was missleading. But, it was political from the start.

P.S. And Ireland is spelled with a capital I.

Sorry about the deviation folks, but I had to set this one straight.
Religion is the root cause. If you think otherwise you know nothing of the history.

There have at times been Protestants and Catholics on both sides but the root cause is religion, end of story. You can trace it back to the 'Glorious revolution' of 1688.

You will notice i mentioned Scotland too, that is purely reliigious.

I will spell ireland how the hell I want.
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Religion is the root cause. If you think otherwise you know nothing of the history.

There have at times been Protestants and Catholics on both sides but the root cause is religion, end of story. You can trace it back to the 'Glorious revolution' of 1688.

You will notice i mentioned Scotland too, that is purely reliigious.

I will spell ireland how the hell I want.
Religion and Politics have been so intricitly entwined in Northern Ireland that you have to consider both, not just one. Ranting about Catholics and Protestants fighting and not including the Political side is a propaganda technique used by the English/British to avoid the obvious; one side is pro. English British and the other is pro. Free State of Ireland--That's political.
Glasgow's (dont know about the rest of Scotland) prejusted climate is closely connected with Northern Irelands situation. Goes back to the old English invasion of Ireland and Ireland's fight to throw them out. That's political!

Couldn't care less how you misspell anything. Just letting you know I'm on to your little prejudesed game you play with yourself.
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How can one claim to be Christian but hate the jews?
It cannot be done.
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Religion and Politics have been so intricitly entwined in Northern Ireland that you have to consider both, not just one. Ranting about Catholics and Protestants fighting and not including the Political side is a propaganda technique used by the English/British to avoid the obvious; one side is pro. English British and the other is pro. Free State of Ireland--That's political.
I dont care what happen to Northern ireland one way or the other so propaganda is not my bag, just stating fact. I have debated this countless times with pro IRA people, pro Unionist people and the occasional ambivalent irishmen (there are a couple here.

The Catholic birth rate is higher than the protestant one, when the catholics get a majority they will undoubtedly vote to uninfy with ireland. End of story.

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Glasgow's (dont know about the rest of Scotland) prejusted climate is closely connected with Northern Irelands situation. Goes back to the old English invasion of Ireland and Ireland's fight to throw them out. That's political!

Couldn't care less how you misspell anything. Just letting you know I'm on to your little prejudesed game you play with yourself.
Well if you couldnt care less why mention it?

The bigotry which exists in Scotland, is just that pure religious bigotry, obviously it is not quite as violent as that in Ireland but it is still prevalent, walk into the wrong pub wearing a green/blue shirt and it would be an invitation to get beaten up.

Religion and politics intermingle in Northern ireland. The Irish situation in the 17th and 18thC has to be seen in the context of the religious wars which swept across Europe. Most people in Britain saw the catholic Church with the same mistrust and fear many in the present day US view Islam.

Religious intolerance, that is the top and bottom of it, if it werent for James I (a Scottish King) transplanting protestants in Iraleand in the early 1600's there would be no Northern Ireland.
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i think it goes against christian faith to hate anyone

love thy neighbour and all that
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