Turkey massing troops at the Iraqi border! Yipppee.

[86Dude]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/....ap/index.html

Turkey troops head to Iraq border

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) -- Turkey has sent large contingents of soldiers, tanks, guns and armored personnel carriers to reinforce its border with Iraq -- amid heated debate over whether to stage a cross-border offensive to hit Kurdish rebel bases.

The military has said the border reinforcement is routine in summer, to prevent guerrillas of the Kurdistan Workers Party, or PKK, from infiltrating from bases in northern Iraq.

For weeks, television stations have broadcast images of military trucks rumbling along the remote border with Iraq's Kurdish zone, and trains transferring tanks and guns to reinforce an already formidable force in the area.

"The PKK must be eliminated as a problem between Iraq and Turkey," Turkey's special envoy to Iraq, Oguz Celikkol, told CNN-Turk television on Wednesday after visiting Baghdad this week.

Asked whether Turkey could take unilateral action, Celikkol said: "Our expectation is that this issue is resolved before it comes to that point."

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan urged the United States and Iraq on Tuesday to destroy PKK bases in northern Iraq, and did not rule out a cross-border Turkish operation.

"The target is to achieve results," Erdogan said. "Our patience has run out. The necessary steps will be taken when needed."

[86Dude]

Whose Iraq do these turkeys think this is anway?

[Stone]

ohh I predicted this shit... Turkey's tired of f-ing around

[86Dude]

Turks need to learn their place.

[oki]

even before the US ingvation this scenario was given by many.
and here we go. the only party not fighting in iraq yet, the kurds, will be soon.
2 options, turkish ocupation of a part of iraq, or the US will have to go there. both will result in bitter guerilla war.

[86Dude]

The nuclear option is looking better each day.

[fat mike]

maybe the kurd's day has dawned finally

[oki]

theres allso the small possibility they will crack down on the ppk, just to keep their overall autonomy safe. but then thell have a HUGE problem with their own people.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by 86Dude

Turks need to learn their place.

Good luck with that.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by 86Dude

The nuclear option is looking better each day.

You and I both know that isn't going to happen.

[Pappy&Me]

Originally Posted by 86Dude

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/....ap/index.html

Turkey troops head to Iraq border

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) -- Turkey has sent large contingents of soldiers, tanks, guns and armored personnel carriers to reinforce its border with Iraq -- amid heated debate over whether to stage a cross-border offensive to hit Kurdish rebel bases.

The military has said the border reinforcement is routine in summer, to prevent guerrillas of the Kurdistan Workers Party, or PKK, from infiltrating from bases in northern Iraq.

For weeks, television stations have broadcast images of military trucks rumbling along the remote border with Iraq's Kurdish zone, and trains transferring tanks and guns to reinforce an already formidable force in the area.

"The PKK must be eliminated as a problem between Iraq and Turkey," Turkey's special envoy to Iraq, Oguz Celikkol, told CNN-Turk television on Wednesday after visiting Baghdad this week.

Asked whether Turkey could take unilateral action, Celikkol said: "Our expectation is that this issue is resolved before it comes to that point."

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan urged the United States and Iraq on Tuesday to destroy PKK bases in northern Iraq, and did not rule out a cross-border Turkish operation.

"The target is to achieve results," Erdogan said. "Our patience has run out. The necessary steps will be taken when needed."

I don't understand this article, is it good that they are doing this or bad ?

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by Pappy&Me

I don't understand this article, is it good that they are doing this or bad ?

Bad. I understand WHY they're doing it, but Iraq will be about 10X as chaotic as it is now.

[grimrebuke]

Originally Posted by 86Dude

The nuclear option is looking better each day.

It must be Wednesday.... I'm tired and sore enough to think this isn't a terrible idea... we just start at Tel-Aviv and nuclear carpet bomb our way to India's border.

[Malcolm Wright]

Originally Posted by 86Dude

The nuclear option is looking better each day.

Oh shut up.

M.

[JoeyNormal]

Originally Posted by 86Dude

The nuclear option is looking better each day.

Yes, nuking the nation with the second largest military in NATO is a good idea. That'll thank them for deploying troops in Afghanistan.

Good plan.

[DirtyDuck]

Not like its the first time that they've (Turkey) done this. Been going on since the 90's.

It must be what they must due for summer vacation.

[oki]

for some perspective, last week the ppk blew stuff up in ankara... its a war, not just turkish agression.

[Kaliayev]

The PKK also have a new leader...who just happens to be very cozy with the Syrians.

I do feel kinda sorry for the Turks. After all, they are our allies, and we turned their entire backyard into a warzone. I'd rather they didn't try and go in, but I can understand why they wouldn't be willing to, say, let their "allies" try and calm the Kurds down.

[Feenix566]

What's the size and disposition of the Kurdish force?

It would be interesting if the Kurds were strong enough to declare their own independence.

[grimrebuke]

Originally Posted by Feenix566

What's the size and disposition of the Kurdish force?

It would be interesting if the Kurds were strong enough to declare their own independence.

An armed and willing people fighting for their own freedom will get it. That is how democracies come into existence. It is a natural evolution.