The New World Order

[86Dude]

Food for thought:

David Rockefeller speaking at the UN, Sept. 14, 1994. 109

"All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

This is why I proudly condone the violent murder of anyone with the last name Rockfellar.

[zipper99]

Wouldn't a New World Order with one central government bring about a peaceful and safer world ?

The politicians control our lives anyway, so it doesn't much matter WHO is in charge...

[vindex]

Originally Posted by zipper99

Wouldn't a New World Order with one central government bring about a peaceful and safer world ?

The politicians control our lives anyway, so it doesn't much matter WHO is in charge...

do you really believe all that? i'm so blessed to be from the U.S. we're far from perfect, but my god, europe has just given up. we've got a little fight left at least. no zipper99, a centralized government would not bring about peace and a safer world, not to mention that it's pretty much an impossibility. the only thing more disturbing than mr. rockefeller's devotion to a bad, sinister idea, is his apparent insanity.

[Bear Stories]

Originally Posted by 86Dude

Food for thought:

David Rockefeller speaking at the UN, Sept. 14, 1994. 109

"All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

This is why I proudly condone the violent murder of anyone with the last name Rockfellar.

So, because of statements made by one Rockefeller, 13 years ago, you would condone the violent murder of anyone with the last name Rockefeller.

Bob and Maggie Rockefeller of Boise, ID are probably going to take umbrage with that.

[Cd.]

Originally Posted by 86Dude

Food for thought:

David Rockefeller speaking at the UN, Sept. 14, 1994. 109

"All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

This is why I proudly condone the violent murder of anyone with the last name Rockfellar.

The Rockefellar family have been fascists since the earliest times. Nelson was the father of the Neocon movement.

The Bush's, the Rockefellers, the Clintons and the Kennedy's. Its the same thing. Skull and Bones, the Illuminati and their ilk.





Yale Skull and Bones society, 1947. George H.W. Bush just left of clock.



http://www.bilderberg.org/skulbone.htm

[Cd.]

Originally Posted by zipper99

Wouldn't a New World Order with one central government bring about a peaceful and safer world ?

The politicians control our lives anyway, so it doesn't much matter WHO is in charge...

No no no no....

It would mean the END OF FREEDOM and SATAN's Rule on Earth.

Warning People.... we are on that road right now!!!!

Here It Is: A Wish List Granted That Would Make Adolph Hitler Proud.

From Warrantless Secret Searches to Defining Any Criminal Activity as Terrorism, Our Constitutional Republic Was Gutted on Friday, October 26.

H.R.3162
"Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism (USA PATRIOT ACT) Act of 2001 (Received in the Senate)"

AUTHORITY FOR DELAYING NOTICE OF THE EXECUTION OF A WARRANT.
SEC. 213.

NEWSFLASH: THE SECRET WARANTLESS SEARCHES AND OTHER POLICE STATE MEASURES IN THE BILL ARE NOT SUNSETTED. THE MEDIA AND THE GOVERNMENT ARE LYING TO YOU.
SEC. 224 SUNSET.

YOUR SO-CALLED PROTECTION GIVES YOU NO PROTECTION. IT IS UNDER ADMIRALTY AND MARITIME JURISDICTION
SEC. 316. ANTI-TERRORIST FORFEITURE PROTECTION

SEC. 802. DEFINITION OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM.
the term `domestic terrorism' means activities that--
`(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State

BULK CASH SMUGGLING INTO OR OUT OF THE UNITED STATES
SEC. 371.

REPORTING OF SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITIES BY UNDERGROUND BANKING SYSTEMS.
SEC. 359.

USE OF AUTHORITY OF UNITED STATES EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS.
SEC. 360.


WWW.INFOWARS.COM

[zipper99]

Sounds like typical American over-reaction to me.
Europe has been a battleground for two World Wars and has managed to recover and thrive (and stay largely sovereign countries that have democratically elected parliaments).
It's not in the European psyche to shit our pants the moment a bomb goes off halfway around the world and assume that "they hate our freedom" - maybe we are just equipped with better BS detectors...and don't swallow dumb conspiracy theories without judging the evidence first...

[86Dude]

I can't believe you are that naive zip.

[86Dude]

Originally Posted by Bear Stories

So, because of statements made by one Rockefeller, 13 years ago, you would condone the violent murder of anyone with the last name Rockefeller.

Bob and Maggie Rockefeller of Boise, ID are probably going to take umbrage with that.

Their tentacles are far reaching even in Arkansas. Luckily, our Rockefellar in Arkansas died of natural causes, hooray, another one bites the dust. Their entire blood line should be eradicated before it can do anymore damage. But we shouldn't stop there. Any family of elites with the power to control, or usurp the sovereignty of the U.S with NWO tactic should be summarily executed and everything of value in their estates redistributed to the people they have abused for so long.

[86Dude]

The process for transformation for the NWO has already been set in motion:

1.Replace national boundaries with open borders
2.Replace individual thinking with collective thinking
3.Replacement of judeo/christian absolutes with universal values.

It's already happening. It's too late for Europe, they got what they deserve, but Americans will put up a fight.

[86Dude]

Our favorite jew had this to say: “Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government.” - Kissinger

“What Congress will have before it is not a conventional trade agreement but the architecture of a new international system...a first step toward a new world order.” - Kissinger on NAFTA


The tyrant George Sr.

"What is at stake is more than one small country; it is a big idea - a new world order... to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind... based on shared principles and the rule of law... The illumination of a thousand points of light... The winds of change are with us now."

David Rockefellar at the Bilderberg meeting, Baden Germany:

We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”

More from David:

“This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long... We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order

[Stone]

Originally Posted by 86Dude

“This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long... We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order

I dont doubt you dude, but a link would be swell.

Originally Posted by zipper99

Wouldn't a New World Order with one central government bring about a peaceful and safer world ?

The politicians control our lives anyway, so it doesn't much matter WHO is in charge...

Yes, in theory a NWO with a one world government acting in the best interest of the world as a whole is more peaceful and safe. But in theory communism is a system in which goods are owned in common and are distributed equitably among all. In reality, communism has proven to hasten facism and totalitarian ideals that concentrate power and wealth in a more injust fashion than capitalism. One world government is quite similar to this.

Both one world government and communism fail to address some basic issues that will ensure their nonsuccess in the forseeable future. They don't manage greed in a way that is beneficial for the masses. They don't have evenly distributed checks and balances. They don't allow equitable government access by the poor, and favor the rich and powerful. They don't encourage intellectual innovation or swift action for the benefit of the greater good. They don't address the fact that what is often best for the greater good is worst for the political and economic elite. Our American system, and many european systems of government manage these conflict adequately but they are not ideal either and are in need of reform if we are going to push things foreward (as a culture AND as a species).

A one world government would amplify the mistakes of the bureaucracy in charge, and would impose a false sense of security among many that simply would not exist. Zipper - Have a look at the expansion of the federal bureaucracy in the 1900s and what it has done to the world and to the US itself. Many of the advancements in Americans' quality of life and expansion of their collective power were largely a result of a hands off federal government for a large portion of American history. In 1913, the federal income tax was 1% for a large majority of Americans, and the federal government had little to do with the day to day lives of most. LOCAL and state governments largely governed peoples' lives and America thrived and rose to the most powerful nation on earth.

We are still riding the wave of prosperity begun by large local and small federal governments, but the further consolidation of power into a national elite is degrading the quality of life for many, and is increasing disparity and blight. Power consolidation is destructive and has consistently failed the large majority of the ruled over the ages.

History has shown that just as an entity is on the road to controling the world it is swiftly derailed. The US will inevitably experience this, as will it's successor. One world government cannot exist in a world full of backstabbers, liers, swindlers, and capitalists, and represents a fantasy world - that is, one which is not reasonably attainable.

The only trump card in the NWO theory is the corporation. It doesn't physically exist (can't be jailed), it does not have a static nationality or allegience, and collectively they wield awesome power. They are a convenient fall guy for industrialist and politician alike, they are the cause of and the solution to our problems, and they can hasten a one world government through consolidation of wealth, and thus power.

A bright future is in a cooperation and communication of de-centralized governments operating with the consent of energy self-sufficient local populations.

[Pappy&Me]

Originally Posted by 86Dude

Food for thought:

David Rockefeller speaking at the UN, Sept. 14, 1994. 109

"All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

This is why I proudly condone the violent murder of anyone with the last name Rockfellar.

Hush up you useless eater !

[Pappy&Me]

They are now about the only ones in possession of our seeds that germinate . They have a stock pile of them from what I heard on radio . Now that the GM foods have killed off all our bees, we will be starved out pretty soon anyway .

[zipper99]

"What is at stake is more than one small country; it is a big idea - a new world order... to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind... based on shared principles and the rule of law... The illumination of a thousand points of light... The winds of change are with us now."

David Rockefeller at the Bilderberg meeting, Baden Germany
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There's a distinct difference between New World Order and a new world order, one is part of the conspiracy nuts Hate List the other (based on the quote above) is an aspiration of a better world for all, that seems pretty cool to me.

86 Dude: "The process for transformation for the NWO has already been set in motion:
1.Replace national boundaries with open borders
2.Replace individual thinking with collective thinking
3.Replacement of judeo/christian absolutes with universal values.
It's already happening. It's too late for Europe, they got what they deserve, but Americans will put up a fight"

Oh dear, so it's take to the hills, stockpile your ammo and er...do what, exactly?
Let's examine your "hit list" above;
1) National boundaries are artificial constructs, lines on a map, redrawn at the whim of the politicians, we can drive from Holland through Belgium, France, Switzerland and Italy without let or hindrance (and with only one currency).
America needs to stop pretending it's about sovreignty, it's because you dislike all foreigners, especially those that are not white anglo saxons.
2) What is "collective thinking"? Even in Maoist China or the Cold War Russia there were dissidents, do you really expect America which prides itself on rugged individualism to fall into line in some Orwellian nightmare scenario? You must have a low opinion of your fellow Americans...
3)Why should "judeo/christian absolutes" be supreme? Hasn't the Supreme Court repeatedly confirmed that there must be clear seperation between church and state? If you wish those "absolutes" to be observed the army, airforce and navy must be disbanded and all personal firearms surrendered for "Thou shalt not kill".
What are the "universal values" that you seem so scared of? are they in any way inimical to people living a good, honest life that doesn't harm others? Perhaps you can lay them out for us.

[Hammerknocker]

NEW WORLD ORDER??!!
OH MY GOD!!!! NOT THE NEW WORLD ORDER!!!
I AM SOOOOOOO SCARED!!!!!
PLEASE SAVE OUR WHITE CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN A****!!

What a holy load of crap!

[Pappy&Me]

Originally Posted by Hammerknocker

NEW WORLD ORDER??!!
OH MY GOD!!!! NOT THE NEW WORLD ORDER!!!
I AM SOOOOOOO SCARED!!!!!
PLEASE SAVE OUR WHITE CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN A****!!

What a holy load of crap!

They laughed at Hitler too, right before they walked into the ovens . Hitler didn't just kill jews , you know . This new world order clan is formed by a lot of little Hitlers . you will be treated like livetock, not humans . they will be the only ones deserving of the goods ,while we eat at the troughs.

[Cd.]

Originally Posted by zipper99

Sounds like typical American over-reaction to me.
Europe has been a battleground for two World Wars and has managed to recover and thrive (and stay largely sovereign countries that have democratically elected parliaments).
It's not in the European psyche to shit our pants the moment a bomb goes off halfway around the world and assume that "they hate our freedom" - maybe we are just equipped with better BS detectors...and don't swallow dumb conspiracy theories without judging the evidence first...

But the thing is this...

Europe will be dominated by Wall Street. It will be the almighty dollar which rules.

The only true freedom is ANARCHY

[9ball8]

Originally Posted by Criminal

...Europe will be dominated by Wall Street. It will be the almighty dollar which rules.

The only true freedom is ANARCHY

Anarchy: Fighting the Nazi-backed Spanish Nationalists, the anarchists' units would debate before "going over the top" against their enemies.

...Let's just say, it didn't work out very well. Not because there was cowardice, but there was delayed response for lack of a designated leader.

Communism, Fascism, Anarchy, Theocracy, Kleptocracy (rule by mafia), etc. Then economic experiments with Consumerism & Corporate hyperactivity.
-These will break against moderation, the will of the people and that which demands the respect of all, including our leaders: Rule of Law.
Following to a conclusion -any of the "isms" or "acies" noted above- requires the leadership to step outside the spirit and then the letter of the law.

-Whether it is a world government or your local council, despots can & have ruined the party. If citizens are involved, and reward or punish their leadership based on their respect of modern democratic principles, all will be well.

[Hammerknocker]

Originally Posted by Pappy&Me

They laughed at Hitler too, right before they walked into the ovens . Hitler didn't just kill jews , you know . This new world order clan is formed by a lot of little Hitlers . you will be treated like livetock, not humans . they will be the only ones deserving of the goods ,while we eat at the troughs.

HITLER??!!
You're comparing a right wing BOOGIE MAN to HITLER??!!
Who's trough are you feeding this thought controlling crap from??