Vermont Votes to Impeach Bush/Cheney

[SpabSFW]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20...WoOxFXmCIe6sgF

...By an overwhelming voice vote, Middlebury called for impeachment.

So it has gone this week at town meetings across Vermont, most of which were held Tuesday.

Late Tuesday night, there were confirmed reports that 36 towns had backed impeachment resolutions, and the number was expected to rise.

In one town, Putney, the vote for impeachment was unanimous.

In addition to Governor Douglas's Middlebury, the town of Hartland, which is home to Congressman Peter Welch (news, bio, voting record), backed impeachment. So, too, did Jericho, the home of Gaye Symington, the speaker of the Vermont House of Representatives.

Organizers of the grassroots drive to get town meetings to back impeachment resolutions hope that the overwhelming support the initiative has received will convince Welch to introduce articles of impeachment against Bush and Cheney. That's something the Democratic congressman is resisting, even though his predecessor, Bernie Sanders, signed on last year to a proposal by Michigan Congressman John Conyers to set up a House committee to look into impeachment.

Vermont activists also want their legislature to approve articles of impeachment and forward them to Congress. But Symington, also a Democrat, has discouraged the initiative, despite the fact that more than 20 representatives have cosponsored an impeachment resolution.

"It's going to be hard for Peter Welch and Gaye Symington to say there's no sentiment for impeachment, now that their own towns have voted for it," says Dan DeWalt, a Newfane, Vermont, town selectman who started the impeachment initiative last year in his town, and who now plans to launch a campaign to pressure Welch and Symington to respect and reflect the will of the people.

It is going to be even harder for Governor Douglas, who just this month spent two nights at the Bush White House, to face his president.

After all, Douglas now lives in a town that is on record in support of Bush's impeachment and trial for high crimes and misdemeanors.

For the record, Middlebury says:

We the people have the power -- and the responsibility -- to remove executives who transgress not just the law, but the rule of law.

The oaths that the President and Vice President take binds them to "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States." The failure to do so forms a sound basis for articles of impeachment.

The President and Vice President have failed to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution" in the following ways:

1. They have manipulated intelligence and misled the country to justify an immoral, unjust, and unnecessary preemptive war in Iraq.

2. They have directed the government to engage in domestic spying without warrants, in direct contravention of U.S. law.

3. They have conspired to commit the torture of prisoners, in violation of the Federal Torture Act and the Geneva Convention.

4. They have ordered the indefinite detention without legal counsel, without charges and without the opportunity to appear before a civil judicial officer to challenge the detention -- all in violation of U.S. law and the Bill of Rights.

When strong evidence exists of the most serious crimes, we must use impeachment -- or lose the ability of the legislative branch to compel the executive branch to obey the law.

George Bush has led our country to a constitutional crisis, and it is our responsibility to remove him from office.

[Ponycar_302]

Always a day late and a dollar short.

Jules, please refer to this instructional video for some clarity and direction.

[Ponycar_302]

I made you a new sig, Jules.

[SpabSFW]

ooh baby :brows:

when ya going to show me

[Ponycar_302]

Originally Posted by SpabSFW

when ya going to show me

Show you what?

[SpabSFW]

whatever you think I might want to see

if that was your idea of the sig, it's really HUGE and no, I'm not saying size matters.

[Ponycar_302]

I spy with my little eye. . . .

[SpabSFW]

lolz kk, anyway, thx for the linkie.

[Mobile Vulgus]

Seriously, does anyone CARE what Vermont thinks, especially when they have neither the place nor the ability to affect such a change?

[SpabSFW]

I thought it was interesting, at the least.

[veracity00]

The whole country needs to have this vote so we can get this bum out of office!

[Mobile Vulgus]

The whole country needs to have this vote so we can get this bum out of office!

If you know anything about the American system you'd know that "the whole country" doesn't HAVE a vote on the matter.

[MILF-in-DFW]

Vermont has a population of about 600,000 people. More than 5,000,000 live here in Dallas/Fort Worth. I don't care what they think. I didn't say I disagreed or agreed with them...I just don't care what they think.

[Shadoglare]

Heh I was like "where the hell did all the responses go????"
Took me a minute to realize somebody else had posted exactly the same thread

[veracity00]

Originally Posted by Mobile Vulgus

If you know anything about the American system you'd know that "the whole country" doesn't HAVE a vote on the matter.

No shit Sherlock. Why are you so simple?

[soylentgreen]

It is a waste of time.

Frankly, I think politicians wasting time voting on non-binding resolutions against the war or to impeach Bush is just about as bad as anything Bush has done.

As I said in a similar thread...we have massive problems in this country. Calls to impeach Bush will not do anything toward solving any of them. It is a waste of taxpayer's time and money.

[SpabSFW]

I agree that the non-binding resolutions against the war are stupid political ploys, but I think the Vermont vote can have an intangible but real effect on how the world views us and is useful. Like Veracity, I think it would go a long ways towards improving our image with the world if more or even all states did this.

[Truth Teller]

Originally Posted by Mobile Vulgus

"the whole country" doesn't HAVE a vote on the matter.

They didn't in 2000.

[Mobile Vulgus]

They didn't in 2000.

Wow, another empty headed line of garbage from the seedy underbelly of American leftism.

#1- You act as if "the people" voted overwhelmingly against Bush.

They did not.

#2 You act as if the 2000 election was handled differently than any OTHER election we ever had.

It wasn't.

#3- You act as if people DIDN'T have their say in 2000

They did.

You just aren't smart enough to see the facts.

[soylentgreen]

Originally Posted by SpabSFW

I agree that the non-binding resolutions against the war are stupid political ploys, but I think the Vermont vote can have an intangible but real effect on how the world views us and is useful. Like Veracity, I think it would go a long ways towards improving our image with the world if more or even all states did this.

Think what you want. It is still a waste of time. It's time that could have been used to solve real problems. Maybe Vermont is perfect and doesn't have any problems...in which case I don't have any issue.