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Old 02-26-2007, 04:00 PM
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Lieberman Makes Threat To Become A Republican

Senator Joe Lieberman ahs threated to switch his party affilation to Republican because Democratic opposition to the war.

If Lieberman does that then he should [and I think will] be recalled.
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Old 02-26-2007, 04:11 PM
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Fightin' Joe should pick up a rifle and go join the fray in Baghdad.

I agree: any politico that crosses the floor should cede his seat.
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If he thinks that party loyalty is more important than conscience and feels that he should vote the strict party-line instead of being his own man, then he's right.. he is a republican.
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If he thinks that party loyalty is more important than conscience and feels that he should vote the strict party-line instead of being his own man, then he's right.. he is a republican.
By taking this step, Lieberman would prove that he IS his own man and refuses to allow (democrat) party loyalty to make him violate his conscience. Therefore, he is not a politician at all, at least not a democrat. Too bad he allowed Gore to make him look like a flopper in 2000. He would have had a lot more support had he not.
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Fightin' Joe should pick up a rifle and go join the fray in Baghdad.

I agree: any politico that crosses the floor should cede his seat.
Would that Jumpin' Jim Jeffords would have had the honor, instead of playing Harry Reid's dirty little game.
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Old 02-26-2007, 05:15 PM
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By taking this step, Lieberman would prove that he IS his own man and refuses to allow (democrat) party loyalty to make him violate his conscience. Therefore, he is not a politician at all, at least not a democrat. Too bad he allowed Gore to make him look like a flopper in 2000. He would have had a lot more support had he not.
I disagree. If he wants to be his own man, he should simply stay an independent and vote whichever way his conscience tells him to. He has the opportunity to somewhat shape the democratic caucus as a majority. He has no opportunity to do that with the red party caucus. That he sees how he should vote on Iraq as directly tied to what party he should belong to says that he thinks the party line is more important than conscience. Better to change parties than to be the guy that votes what he believes in contrast with his party.

However, we're all probably overthinking this. It is my guess that, if he changes party lines, it is strictly a funding question and has very little to do with ideology at all.
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Would that Jumpin' Jim Jeffords would have had the honor, instead of playing Harry Reid's dirty little game.
The difference is that Lieberman was asked about this during the election and said he would not switch parties.


Anyway,the people in his state would have recalled Jeffords if they wanted to,they didn't want to,I don't think the same would be true for Lieberman.
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I doubt he will do it. He has found a stick to use to beat up democrats to get his way. He will use the CRAP outta the thing!
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I agree: any politico that crosses the floor should cede his seat.
Want to give us Jeffer's seat back?

Of course not...silly me. you only demand "fair" when it suits you and your party.

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More evidence that Lieberman is a douchebag blow-hard.
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Want to give us Jeffer's seat back?

Of course not...silly me. you only demand "fair" when it suits you and your party.

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How about you let someone respond before you call them a hypocrite, it helps you avoid looking like an ass.
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How about you let someone respond before you call them a hypocrite, it helps you avoid looking like an ass.
Hit a nerve?

and let us be clear here...unlike Jeffers, Lieberman didn't leave the Democrats, the Democrats left him...then he beat them like a cheap drum. He'd be right to leave them if not only for what they did to him. He owes them NOTHING.

As long as you bring up "hypocrite" look at how Hegal and Warner...wne they disagree with their party (Bush really, it's always all about Bush) they are MEN OF PRINCABLE!

Lieberman does it and oh my God...what an ass! No, wait a "douchebag blow-hard"

Lieberam nmight be the last honest Democrat left.
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Senator Joe Lieberman ahs threated to switch his party affilation to Republican because Democratic opposition to the war.

If Lieberman does that then he should [and I think will] be recalled.
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Fightin' Joe should pick up a rifle and go join the fray in Baghdad.

I agree: any politico that crosses the floor should cede his seat.
Ridiculous. Parties morph with the issues, and if over time you become uncompatible with your party, you have no obligation to stick to it or resign.

Jim Jeffors had nothing to apologize for, and neither would Joe Lieberman if he switched parties.

(Except supporting the war in the first place)
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Hit a nerve?
Absolutely. I loathe people that accuse someone of something and write them off without letting them respond. It's rude, cowardly, and does not facilitate a healthy or honest debate.
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Lieberman does it and oh my God...what an ass! No, wait a "douchebag blow-hard"
Lieberman was a douche-bag blow-hard long before any of this. I don't give a shit what party he claims, they're both corrupt and full of human scum. He can do whatever he wants and he'll continue to be a douchebag blow-hard, just like the rest of the democratic party.

You've clearly misread my post as I never called lieberman a hypocrite. And I never said there was anything wrong with questioning your party or even leaving it. He's a douchebag blow-hard for (among many, many other things) continuing to support the war long after it's been proven that it was and continues to be a bad idea.
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More evidence that Lieberman is a douchebag blow-hard.

How about you let someone respond before you call them a hypocrite, it helps you avoid looking like an ass.

nice way to skirt the TOS, ass. setting a great example!
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Absolutely. I loathe people that accuse someone of something and write them off without letting them respond. It's rude, cowardly, and does not facilitate a healthy or honest debate.

Lieberman was a douche-bag blow-hard long before any of this. I don't give a shit what party he claims, they're both corrupt and full of human scum. He can do whatever he wants and he'll continue to be a douchebag blow-hard, just like the rest of the democratic party.

You've clearly misread my post as I never called lieberman a hypocrite. And I never said there was anything wrong with questioning your party or even leaving it. He's a douchebag blow-hard for (among many, many other things) continuing to support the war long after it's been proven that it was and continues to be a bad idea.
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The difference is that Lieberman was asked about this during the election and said he would not switch parties.


Anyway,the people in his state would have recalled Jeffords if they wanted to,they didn't want to,I don't think the same would be true for Lieberman.
I wasn't in a party to begin with, so he couldn't really switch. He also said that he would initially caucus with democrats, but he made no promises to caucus with them forever. After the way the treated him, I was surprised that he would in the first place.
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Supporting his recall only makes sense if you put parties above individuals when you vote, in which case, you're wasting the people's time when you vote.
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Supporting his recall only makes sense if you put parties above individuals when you vote, in which case, you're wasting the people's time when you vote.
good point! but I bet alot of poeple do vote strictly based on whether the fella has a d or an r next to his name. (I vote for all r's unless a d in the same race is better on the gun issue, which is dear to my heart... I voted for 3 or 4 d's in the MD election this past fall)
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I took his stance as an attempt to wangle a nice Commitee position from Bushco - they would see him as a "safe" Democrat who wouldn't rock their little War Boat...
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