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Creating the North American Union
by Dennis Behreandt
October 2, 2006


The plans for a North American Security and Prosperity Partnership are steps on the way to a North American Union...

On June 21, viewers of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight heard the alarming introduction to a segment of the program devoted to the future of the United States of America. "The Bush administration's open-borders policy and its decision to ignore the enforcement of this country's immigration laws is part of a broader agenda," Dobbs intoned. "President Bush signed a formal agreement that will end the United States as we know it, and he took the step without approval from either the U.S. Congress or the people of the United States."

The agreement Dobbs was talking about was crafted a year earlier. On March 23, 2005, then-Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin and Mexican President Vicente Fox met with President Bush in Waco, Texas, to discuss plans for integrating Canada, the United States, and Mexico. During that meeting, the three heads of state argued that the three nations are "mutually dependent and complementary" and need to work together more closely on a range of issues. "In a rapidly changing world, we must develop new avenues of cooperation that will make our open societies safer and more secure, our businesses more competitive, and our economies more resilient," the three leaders said in a joint statement.

The standard diplomatic language was a prelude to a radical proposal calling for the merger of the three nations in several important ways. Under a so-called Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP), the nations will no longer have separate borders, but will "implement common border-security." The three nations will no longer respond on the national level to emergencies but will have a "common approach to emergency response." And, in a move that has tremendous implications for the growing immigration crisis, the three leaders agreed that the United States' north and south borders would be eliminated. Under the SPP plan, the three nations will "implement a border-facilitation strategy to build capacity and improve the legitimate flow of people and cargo at our shared borders."

This plan is nothing short of revolutionary. As Dobbs put it on his CNN program, it is "an absolute contravention of our law, of our Constitution, every national value." Though the plan sounds like a new innovation, it is not new. It is the next step in a progression of steps that, in a manner very similar to the process used in Europe to supplant individual nations with the European Union, will ultimately lead to the formation of a new government for the United States, the North American Union. If not stopped, the plan for a North American Union will supplant the former independent states of Canada, Mexico, and the United States. And this is not conjecture. The North American Union is official U.S. policy.

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NAFTA Super Highway Map

October 2, 2006

This map is a conceptualization of the Super Highways now underway to connect the United States, Canada, and Mexico to help bring about the creation of a North American Union similar to the European Union.


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Old 02-08-2007, 07:58 PM
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If there was any doubt before, I think it's becoming obvious now. Bush is a New World Order traitor, just like Bill Clinton, and a number of others.

And this is just the beginning. Apparently they decided the slow and gradual way would work better, and unfortunately the sheepminded people in this country who are too busy watching tv to notice we're being sold out will wake up one day and realize we no longer have a United States of America.

On top of that, apparently we have a criminal enterprise running our country, who (as is evident in the border agents case) are friendlier with drug cartels than with true Americans trying to protect our country.

And if anyone doesn't believe that, I'm going to post another thread soon that might shed some light on that.

It would take a humongous miracle at this point to change anything, and I think it's too late. Goodbye constitution/Bill of Rights, hello New World Order, thanks to the crooks and traitors, who have sold us out, and those who elect them.
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Global competition against alliances such as those found in Europe will require greater systems of cooperation.

A great nation of strength and fortitude can lead the way.

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did anybody notice how mexico appears to be the hub of all this bullshit. looks like it's intended to **** us over to me.
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Global competition against alliances such as those found in Europe will require greater systems of cooperation.
Competition is one thing. Destroying our constitution and our sovereignty is another.

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Don't you mean "Goodbye United States of America?"

Don't hate your country to the point you'd sacrifice your security and constitutional rights for cheap labor.
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Old 02-08-2007, 08:19 PM
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Competition is one thing. Destroying our constitution and our sovereignty is another.
The whole idea is to keep sovereignty. Global competition is reality. Fear of globalization, technology and competition will result in loss of sovereignty.

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Don't you mean "Goodbye United States of America?"

Don't hate your country to the point you'd sacrifice your security and constitutional rights for cheap labor.
I see no such sacrifices made in the building of roadways.

Relationships with neighboring countries may prove to be useful in competing with other nations in business or even defending our nation from harm.
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the only way this would make sense is if the 3 countries normalized their labor laws to the highest standard. So Canadian healthcare and hours, US minimum wage, and.... well, actually, that would be about it.
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GOP Deeds Under a Microscope (Excerpt)
by Warren Mass
October 2, 2006


By failing to oppose the dangerous policies of the Bush administration, much of the GOP leadership has proven that their talk about border security is nothing but rhetoric.

Since the inception of the Bush administration's post-9/11 "War on Terrorism," both the White House and congressional Republicans have paid generous lip service to the need to improve border security, an important part of controlling terrorism. "The United States must secure its borders," President Bush stated on May 15 of this year when he addressed the nation from the Oval Office on the subject of immigration. "This is a basic responsibility of a sovereign nation. It is also an urgent requirement of our national security."

However, in the same address, the president also stated that, "to secure our border, we must create a temporary worker program," that this program "would create a legal path for foreign workers to enter our country in an orderly way," and that it "would match willing foreign workers with willing American employers." This program — which would provide legal status to millions of illegal immigrants already here and open the floodgates for many millions more to come — does not make sense if the purpose is to secure our borders. But it does make sense in light of the administration's Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) with the governments of Mexico and Canada that would effectively erase the national borders within North America on the path to forming the North American Union patterned after the European Union....

http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman...cle_4216.shtml

Bush talking about both sides of his mouth. No surprise to those who have watched his (in)actions on national security. Puke.
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People need to wake up

I think there are some who maybe don't realize what this eventual one-world government will be like, they haven't looked into it, or are still hopelessly blind to the reality of the ones pushing it.

Pretty much everything about it is extremely bad news. I'll try to find some things that talk about this, for the people who either don't know or don't believe it...
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"The three nations will no longer respond on the national level to emergencies but will have a "common approach to emergency response."

Oh, I can just imagine Canada looking forward to FEMA handling some disaster in Manitoba...

More to the point, it seems quite laughable that all the doomsayers above are whining about loss of sovereignty for The United States no mention of Canada or Mexico - why is that? Are we to assume that Cunning Canada and Menacing Mexico are plotting to take over? Odd, since it has been the US that has historically planned to invade Canada and actually invaded Mexico (taking great chunks of their land in the process).

Why do you see a conspiracy here? Wouldn't any kind of closer cooperation mean the US would be the dominant partner? Where is this "New World Order" supposed to rule from? Tibet? Atlantis? Israel?
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there is a valid concern that the american laborer could be underbid but what you see here is the American anxiety about signing treaties or ceding control-
One of the guys they interviewed was with the John Birch Society-back in the 60's they were a notorious right wing group known for their outlandish claims that everyone and his dog was a communist-a throwback to Senator Joe-a road system could help us and could help security-certainly we would have more more over sight over what's happening on the other side of the border with some protocols we had a right to insist on...
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Ok folks put the tinfoil hats back on before the gamma rays from across the border get you. Come on here Canada and Mexico would never join with the US with your debt level aint gonna happen ever. The agreement was simply a security deal to try and get the US not to go apesh*t over passports at the border etc. that didnt work. However the concept of a continental security program isnt the dumbest idea.

Lou Dobbs isnt a journalist he is a rabble rouser and he is good at it. Same kind of guy who had all of you hootin and hollering to invade Iraq.
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They want to shut all our ports, ship everything through Mexico where they can pay them slave wages, and then send it up here. All for the good of the corporations who will save tons of money..
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Ok folks put the tinfoil hats back on before the gamma rays from across the border get you. Come on here Canada and Mexico would never join with the US with your debt level aint gonna happen ever. The agreement was simply a security deal to try and get the US not to go apesh*t over passports at the border etc. that didnt work. However the concept of a continental security program isnt the dumbest idea.

Lou Dobbs isnt a journalist he is a rabble rouser and he is good at it. Same kind of guy who had all of you hootin and hollering to invade Iraq.
I was looking for the actual agreement and my pdf thing is screwed up-we're not really talking about much more than a road system and some trade protocols,are we? Rabble rouser seems accurate...
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They want to shut all our ports, ship everything through Mexico where they can pay them slave wages, and then send it up here. All for the good of the corporations who will save tons of money..
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Both Clinton and Bush have made lots of trade deals that are bad for the country as a whole. Did anybody see recently where we gave India nuclear reactor technology in return for fruit?
The fast track trade authority which allows the President to do this expires in July I believe. I hope this deal doesn't go through before then and Congress does not renew that authority.
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I would resist such a movement with my life if it came to that.
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They want to shut all our ports, ship everything through Mexico where they can pay them slave wages, and then send it up here. All for the good of the corporations who will save tons of money..
Good, I was hoping this would catch your attention.
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In principle I have no problem with multi-nation governmental organizations.

In practice, they are designed too much to favor the rich, and NOT the average citizens of countries involved, so it would be exceptional leaders that I would trust to implement something like this.

But like I said, in principle I can agree with it. The "OMG OUR SOVEREIGNTY WILL BE STRIIPED FROM US ZOMG!!11!" folks are alarmists, IMO.
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Good, I was hoping this would catch your attention.

I've known about this, I've always been against all these trade agreements which benefit only the elite and give us more immigration, more third world trinkets, and less jobs. And I can only imagine the security disaster this would be along with safety with all the Mexican truckers cruisin on in here..
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