My anti-bush report (for school)

[JustAGirl]

If you think the report sucks, just say so. Don't try to make me out as stupid because we don't share the same oppinion.

Spaz, I think Rubicon was not only rude but totally lacks logic as well since what you may be studying in English is completely independent of your math level. Ignore that nonsense, it just means he or she doesn't agree with your opinion.

[Dr_EluSivE]

i hope it isnt supposed to be factual, Because its mostly left wing propaganda and you provided no proof to back up your points. But i would imagine this the kind of crap people write in modern schools. Liberal teachers have a way of distorting a students view of current events and even history. When i was in school we dropped the Atom bomb to save thousands of marines and end a war THEY started.. in todays textbooks We are the bad guys for using such weapon on the innocent Axis. And the Civil war was about taxation, free trade, and states rights.. Today its about slavery. Schools keep rewriting history.. why not rewrite the present too?

Dr.

[JustAGirl]

i hope it isnt supposed to be factual, Because its mostly left wing propaganda and you provided no proof to back up your points. But i would imagine this the kind of crap people write in modern schools. Liberal teachers have a way of distorting a students view of current events and even history. When i was in school we dropped the Atom bomb to save thousands of marines and end a war THEY started.. in todays textbooks We are the bad guys for using such weapon on the innocent Axis. And the Civil war was about taxation, free trade, and states rights.. Today its about slavery. Schools keep rewriting history.. why not rewrite the present too?

Dr.

I don't know the last time you were in school but from my experience I don't think your claim is true. I thought the Civil War was about keeping 1 country from becoming 2.

[Spazola]

i hope it isnt supposed to be factual, Because its mostly left wing propaganda and you provided no proof to back up your points. But i would imagine this the kind of crap people write in modern schools. Liberal teachers have a way of distorting a students view of current events and even history. When i was in school we dropped the Atom bomb to save thousands of marines and end a war THEY started.. in todays textbooks We are the bad guys for using such weapon on the innocent Axis. And the Civil war was about taxation, free trade, and states rights.. Today its about slavery. Schools keep rewriting history.. why not rewrite the present too?

Dr.

Dozens of Federal Aviation Administration memos warned of al Qaeda or Osama bin Laden in 2001, but the agency didn't order new security measures before the September 11 attacks, a newly released declassified report by the 9/11 commission says.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/11/911.memo/index.html

Heres proof to one point. Could you name the others you'd like proof for? I'd be more than happy to post my sources

When I showed the report to my teacher (my mom), she pointed out my mistake that our original goal of the war was to capture Saddam--she said thats an oppinion, not fact,so I acknowledge my mistake.

[Dr_EluSivE]

I don't know the last time you were in school but from my experience I don't think your claim is true. I thought the Civil War was about keeping 1 country from becoming 2.

Uh yeah... it was.. why do you think the south tried to break away..... taxes, states rights... and trade.

Dr.

[JustAGirl]

well states rights for legal slave ownership

[Dr_EluSivE]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/11/911.memo/index.html

Heres proof to one point. Could you name the others you'd like proof for? I'd be more than happy to post my sources

When I showed the report to my teacher (my mom), she pointed out my mistake that our original goal of the war was to capture Saddam--she said thats an oppinion, not fact,so I acknowledge my mistake.

Not proof.. It only shows that the FAA failed to act. It does NOT prove that Bush failed to act. The president Cannot micromanage, someone in the FAA may of screwed up, but that doesnt mean its bushes fault.

The commission found no evidence that the FAA knew what al Qaeda was plotting -- hijacking planes and using them as missiles -- but the agency had at least considered "the possibility that terrorists would hijack a plane and use it as a weapon," the report said.

Despite the warnings, the FAA ordered no new security measures on airlines or airports in advance of the attacks, according to the 9/11 panel's final report, which was released in July and became a best seller.

Clinton's administration had been warned of attacks as well and did nothing..

Dr.

[Dr_EluSivE]

well states rights for legal slave ownership

Nope. states rights for taxation, and representation in congress. Slavery got involved later, and only as a tool to ruin the south's economy in order to end the war.

By the way.. there were at least 2 "slave states" that faught on the side of the union (Mo, and Ky)

Dr.

[JustAGirl]

but the south wouldn't be required to conform and free their slaves until after the war was won by the north so how would that help the north in the midst of the war?

[SecretSamadhi]

i hope it isnt supposed to be factual, Because its mostly left wing propaganda and you provided no proof to back up your points. But i would imagine this the kind of crap people write in modern schools. Liberal teachers have a way of distorting a students view of current events and even history. When i was in school we dropped the Atom bomb to save thousands of marines and end a war THEY started.. in todays textbooks We are the bad guys for using such weapon on the innocent Axis. And the Civil war was about taxation, free trade, and states rights.. Today its about slavery. Schools keep rewriting history.. why not rewrite the present too?

Dr.

I believe she stated this was an 'opinion' piece.

But I have to say, it makes me feel better knowing the young fresh minds aren't fooled by the little snickering man.

[Dr_EluSivE]

but the south wouldn't be required to conform and free their slaves until after the war was won by the north so how would that help the north in the midst of the war?

All captured southern areas the slaves were freed, and it also forced slaves that were in the south to revolt and riot because the law requireing them to be returned if caught in the north was nullifed. it created chaos. The 13th amendment wasnt Signed until the end of the war in 1865. Another thing to note is that the Emancipation Proclamation DID NOT free slaves in the northern Slave states.. ONLY the southern states.

Dr.

[Dr_EluSivE]

I believe she stated this was an 'opinion' piece.

But I have to say, it makes me feel better knowing the young fresh minds aren't fooled by the little snickering man.

I dont know if thats a smack at me or not? who is the "little snickering man"

Dr.

[Truth Teller]

Spaz,if I were your teacher I'd give you an A+.

[JustAGirl]

All captured southern areas the slaves were freed, and it also forced slaves that were in the south to revolt and riot because the law requireing them to be returned if caught in the north was nullifed. it created chaos. The 13th amendment wasnt Signed until the end of the war in 1865. Another thing to note is that the Emancipation Proclamation DID NOT free slaves in the northern Slave states.. ONLY the southern states.

Dr.

I have looked at a number of the secession declarations from a number of the southern states and they all mention slavery

[Dr_EluSivE]

I have looked at a number of the secession declarations from a number of the southern states and they all mention slavery

yes, they do, but its not slaverys Legality, it basically goes like this.. they wanted and even number of Slave, and free states.. Lincoln came into office and declared there whould be no more slave states Added, but he would continue to allow and enforce all existing slave laws. This meant if another Free state was formed it would upset the balance, and the south didnt like that. Also the number of house members Per state was/is determined by population. Slaves DID NOT count as population so the slave states got less Representation in the house then the north did, causeing an Imbalance. The norths economy delt mostly in imports, and manufactored goods, the south was almost all Agriculture. New trade taxes and restrictions were passed making it harder and more expensive for the south to Import goods they needed, and it also made it more expensive to export the goods they had. The south wasnt able to defeat these laws due to lack of representation in the house and the newly elected republican Pres. (lincoln) the south was mostly democratic. This spawned the war.

I dont want to derail this thread anymore then i already have but there is a good article in the Wikipedia that sums it up nicely. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

I minored in 20th century history, not 19th so i may have made a few errors, but thats basically it.

Dr.

[PeoplesChamp]

Love your report Spaz. Well done...whatever age you are

Me too. You get an A from me, but King George will more than likely take credit for your wonderful report [he has a a habit of taking credit for things he had no involvement in] by stating that No Child Left Behind afforded you the opportunity to write such a succint and well written essay.

[ToeJam]

My honest opinion is that it is typical of leftist hysteria.

It is based in little fact or truth and is remindful of an angry screed.

I will address it in detail later if you think I am wrong.


Of course, what if I demonstrate you've made false statements in your report? Will you admit it? Will you change your paper?

[Dr.Doom]

The guy is a horrible president stop protecting him

[oki]

forming a political opinion is important. in that perspective it doesnt really matter what the opinion is, right now. having one and being able to put it into words, is what teh thing was about.

[Spazola]

Of course, what if I demonstrate you've made false statements in your report? Will you admit it? Will you change your paper?

If you can prove me wrong, of course I will admit it. I'm a 13-year-old student, not a politician.
I will not, however, change my paper. I already turned it in, so there is no longer a need to re-write it.