Ethicists give thumbs-up to infanticide

[Farnsworth,Luther P.]

FLP, you are a leftist when it comes to economic issues, however, you seem to be an extreme social conservative who makes Pat Robertson sound like Jerry Rubin, let's be honest here.

Let's be honest here; pulling faked 'studies' and the like out of somebody's ass and publishing it in assorted propaganda rags, repeating them endlessly until enough airheads think the stuff has magically turned into 'fact' along with hundreds of silly old Soviet Cold War memes from supposedly 'enlightened' Euro twittery and 'progressive' wannabees aren't doesn't make anyone 'socially liberal', they're just mindless gibberish and have zero to do with 'liberalism', they just pander to narcissistic, neurotic, Burb Brat fantasies.

Faux 'Peace Leftists' are among the most bigoted, racist, and insufferably snobbish people on the planet, and they aren't even remotely 'liberal', in any way, shape or form; they most closely resemble Nazis, only the rhetorical targets are different, and there isn't a dimes worth of difference in the majority of cases.

[Archaix]

Never read it

Of course you didn't, that's obvious from what positions and ideals you falsely attribute to New Atheism. You're more than happy to write...what's the phrase? 'Regurgitated junk you got from somewhere else'.

and I'm not a 'conservative'

I did not say you were, only that you possibly picked up certain ideas from Conservapedia. To be honest I've always found you to be more fascist than 'conservative', and that's coming from someone who uses that term carefully.

Moral relativism is the root of 'left wing liberalism', which is why it isn't remotely related to real liberalism, but you wouldn't know that; maybe after you finally finish up that 7th year of 3rd grade and move on you'll learn critical thinking skills, but, that isn't likely, as it's too much work for you.

"Moral relativism" is about as mythical as the "real liberalism". Let me explain why: personal morality is a natural human trait. New Atheists have morals. Liberals have morals. Christians have morals. Some postmodern relativists, like the ethicists you mentioned, think that because morals are natural and fluid, there is a justification to remove them entirely from the equation and act 'functionally'. I'm not saying that's what all postmodernists think, or even that moral relativism is a conclusion of postmodernist logic, but that social liberalism and all left wing traditions cannot be relativist, given that they rest upon various assumptions and prejudices about the natural 'goodness' of humans and the ethical way to treat humanity. And, as I pointed out to a thankless Caddis in another thread:

Socialism partly originated in Christian circles anyway (equality before God was a major aspect of the writing of Tom Paine, Ruskin, George Lansbury, etc), and some of the most prominent socialists today are Christians, like Tony Benn or Desmond Tutu … So the agenda of Marxists and socialists is not to 'replace God'. As far as social liberalism has been concerned, the object has been only to make the state 'neutral' in matters of religion -Richard Dawkins, for example, recently argued exactly this, and Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams has argued, on the other side of the debate, that disestablishment protects religion from state manipulation.

As for Ospama's support for infanticide, I've posted links to his speeches on the Illinois Senate floor, as well as pictures of what he supports, several times already, so if you missed them, tough, it's your problem.

Spare me your Powerboss-like determination to be as lazy as possible and make those links yourself, you gutless twerp. I'm sure if your posts are as vague and ill-constructed as this one there's no point in me reading them anyway; your concept of 'evidence' is about as shaky as your understanding of New Atheism.

most Nazi platforms derived directly from 'Progressive Era' attempts at quantifying the 'social sciences', and also the works of Charles Darwin, and most especially, the works of Charles Davenport and the fashion for 'psychoanalysis' and the like. Google it yourself, if you're inclined to personal edifictation, or just be another Archaix and just repeat idiotic tropes and memes ad nauseam.

I'm not quite sure what the point of this is: are you saying that Nazi racism was inspired by progressive eugenics? Everyone was involved in eugenics in the 18th and 19th centuries -the work of Darwin merely accelerated the process by unlocking the machinery of evolution. The chief distinguishing features of Nazism (which it did not at all borrow from the left) was to add a racial dynamic to Darwinism, and misinterpret 'survival of the fittest' as 'survival of the strongest'.

I have to say, furthermore, that your own attitudes towards Arabian people (“The Israelis should show some respect for Arab and Islamic Tradition by massacring their Arab population until there are either none left, or keep maybe a hundred or so around in order to claim they are 'secular'”), and your well-known characterisation of gay people as mentally ill paedophiles (reminds me of your phrase “declaring dissidents as 'insane'”...), does not fill me with great confidence that you are in any way different from the fascists you apparently find appalling.

Everything to you collectivists is extreme right because your thinking is too far to the left and your commie friends have managed to move the right left of center so far that they are actually left but too stupid to know it. Well done. Mitt Romney is a great example of your successes in this pinko endeavor.

This is too fucking stupid to even address. You get more hosed up every day 86, you know that?

[GanjaFreebird]

Sure the zionist regime has a lot of homosexuals,

Israel respects human rights, including gay rights, you're right.

, but they have a lot of bizarre Orthodox psychopaths who cannot stand women.

Every society has its share of idiots, retards, extremists and bigots.

Hmmm, in both case a significant percentage of zionists don't like vagina. WTF?

The average Orthodox family has like 8 kids at least...they obviously like vagina much more than you do, for what it's worth.

Do you see the trend!

No, as the Israelis today reproduce at a higher rate than even Israeli Arabs, something that was actually unheard of when I was living there! So no, Israeli guys LOVE having sex with women, make no mistake about this one!

Insecure, gay middle east homos whether they be zionists or Muslim should not have ANY influence on international activity!

All people should have an influence on international activity, regardless of their race, religion or sexual orientation!

My guess is that educated, intelligent folks can differentiate between fact and fiction!

Probably.

Why doesn't the zionist regime give that concept a try

Israel has always been a secular country, in fact, almost all early Zionists were secular/atheists.

Do you really think Moses dropped the stones that Yahweh carved some rules into?

I never said I didn't believe in fairy tales, I'm just not going to force my beliefs on others, and that's the difference between us and them.

Come on think about it. Moses never even existed for Chrissakes!

There's WAY more chances than he existed, than a married virgin getting pregnant without having sex!

[GanjaFreebird]

Let's be honest here; pulling faked 'studies' and the like out of somebody's ass and publishing it in assorted propaganda rags, repeating them endlessly until enough airheads think the stuff has magically turned into 'fact' along with hundreds of silly old Soviet Cold War memes from supposedly 'enlightened' Euro twittery and 'progressive' wannabees aren't doesn't make anyone 'socially liberal', they're just mindless gibberish and have zero to do with 'liberalism', they just pander to narcissistic, neurotic, Burb Brat fantasies.

Faux 'Peace Leftists' are among the most bigoted, racist, and insufferably snobbish people on the planet, and they aren't even remotely 'liberal', in any way, shape or form; they most closely resemble Nazis, only the rhetorical targets are different, and there isn't a dimes worth of difference in the majority of cases.

I have no use for the extreme-left, and in my opinion, they are every bit as stupid and bad as the right-wing idiots. I'm talking about social liberalism only, not about the idiots who side with Muslim terrorists over America and Israel. I'm more of a Bill Maher type of a liberal, not a Noam Chomsky type.

[Freedom&Liberty]

THAT'S EXACTLY MY POINT!! I hate communism and I love social liberalism because social liberalism is ALL ABOUT respecting freedom!!

Dude, you have no respect for freedom whatsoever. You traded freedom for a government slavery.

[GanjaFreebird]

Dude, you have no respect for freedom whatsoever.

I have no respect for greedy sociopaths, but I do have respect for personal freedom, which is why I'm a social liberal!

You traded freedom for a government slavery.

I didn't trade anything, people have been paying taxes long before I was born.

[Freedom&Liberty]

When someone has to labor so that others can get a monthly check from government for doing nothing, that's not freedom, it's slavery. When people are told by liberals that they'll never amount to anything because of their skin color and that government will help them with a check every month, that's not freedom, it's slavery. Freedom is about choices. Stop removing them.

[GanjaFreebird]

I don't really give a shit about the "freedoms" of people to be greedy and racist, sorry, there are other things that I'm much more concerned about.

[hadit]

I don't really give a shit about the "freedoms" of people to be greedy and racist, sorry, there are other things that I'm much more concerned about.

Freedom of thought and of speech means that people are free to think and say things you don't like. It doesn't matter whether you like it or not, that's what it means.

[GanjaFreebird]

Nobody is being arrested here for being a racist, the society just doesn't like them.

[Freedom&Liberty]

I don't really give a shit about the "freedoms" of people .

That's the truest thing you've ever said on DA.

[GanjaFreebird]

Your definition of freedom isn't the same as mine.

[Freedom&Liberty]

I know, yours is some made up liberal bullshit and mine isn't.

[GanjaFreebird]

Yours is some made up right-wing bullshit and mine isn't!

[Šñøü†ê®]

I don't really give a shit about the "freedoms" of people to be greedy and racist...

^ANTI CEMENTIC ALERT!

So you don't like the idea that a greedy racist by the name of Silverstein got TWO insurance claims as a result of the alleged hijackings back some ten years ago in Manhattan?

R U sure you really descend from the tribe of Judah!

[GanjaFreebird]

^ANTI CEMENTIC ALERT!

So you don't like the idea that a greedy racist by the name of Silverstein got TWO insurance claims as a result of the alleged hijackings back some ten years ago in Manhattan?

No, I don't.

R U sure you really descend from the tribe of Judah!

I'm 100% sure, and so are you, meh Hebrew!

[Šñøü†ê®]

No, I don't.

Good, so you might be one of us after all!

[GanjaFreebird]

We are all Hebrews here, including myself!!