Republican Romney names Paul Ryan as running mate

[BooRadley]

US Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has named fiscal conservative Paul Ryan as his running mate in November's election.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19224423

Trying to buy the cons with Ryan. I think it's going to work against him, once people start to understand what the Ryan budget is about (hint, it's about cutting taxes for rich people, raising taxes for working people, and running a huge debt. You know, like always.)

[Chachma v'Oz]

Another gift from God. Ryan is Romney's Sarah Palin. He appeals to only the hard core conservatives who Romney already had locked in and everyone else in the land will be either disappointed or appalled.

Déjà vu, anyone?

[BooRadley]

[caddis]

When you are broke, you have to make cuts. Only a fool keeps spending when th well is dry.

Ryan has the balls to call for cuts knowing that the democrats have succeeded in getting half of America to depend on gov't handouts. The fact that you people aid the democrats in smearing anyone that proposes any cut in government proves that this country is doomed.

We may as well start leaning to speak French

[Chachma v'Oz]

When you are broke, you have to make cuts. Only a fool keeps spending when th well is dry.

Either that or quit letting people sponge off you who can well afford to pay their share for a change.

[Alberto_Balsalm]

When you are broke, you have to make cuts. Only a fool keeps spending when th well is dry.

But... free stuff!

[caddis]

Either that or quit letting people sponge off you who can well afford to pay their share for a change.

I hate to blind you with common sense, but the people sponging off of government are not those that produce the tax revenue it is the group that is consuming our taxes through entitlements...you know, those 100 million people receiving some form of welfare

[caddis]

Fellow Archer

[Chachma v'Oz]

The people I'm referring to are sponging off us all. If we'd been collecting the tax revenue we should have been collecting from them we wouldn't have had to borrow ourselves into such an unmanageable hole. All the money they saved and pocketed during this extended tax holiday we've been on has been added to the national debt, something we all now owe.

Remember that bell curve. There's no reason in the world why the people in the bulging middle have to carry the biggest proportion of the weight. The poor people on the left side of the curve have nothing to contribute in revenue; us rich folks on the right have a lot more we can contribute (and should in a progressive tax system like ours), but the way the rules are skewed to favor the rich it's the working saps in the middle who are carrying the biggest load.

[caddis]

If we'd been collecting the tax revenue we should have been collecting from them we wouldn't have had to borrow ourselves into such an unmanageable hole.

false.

Congress has spent the money. Periond. They didn't spend the money on current revenue, expected revenue, or revenue they wished they could have confiscated....They simply over spent

Peddle your lie elsewhere. We have spent beyond our means and with Obama, incurred further debt by taking on another entitlement we can't afford

[Chachma v'Oz]

We sure did spend beyond our means and that was because we took an unnecessary cut in pay without reducing our spending. Since we cannot unspend that money, we need to restore the revenue that was cut, and what better place to start than with those who benefited the most during the tax holiday and who pocketed the money we had to make up by borrowing from elsewhere to pay the bills?

[Freedom&Liberty]

Nah, that's just stupid. It's way better to cut spending.

[86Dùde]

More class warfare bullshit from the democraps. Won't help, not even 1 iota. I really don't understand why you people argue about this stupid shit.

[86Dùde]

Fellow Archer

Our deer are small down here. They usually don't get that large. I hate deer. I'd kill them all and let them rot in the fields if I could. They're worse than commies. If I had .50 I just set on top of the mountain and blow holes through them all day for fun. Damn pests. Plus, they taste too gamey for me. I'd rather have wild boar but If I had to pull the guts out of a deer and eat that shit I could do it in a pinch.

[caddis]

We sure did spend beyond our means and that was because we took an unnecessary cut in pay without reducing our spending.

Didn't I just ask you to stop lying? Revenues have increased every year since the Bush tax cuts (except for 2009 the height of the recession) I will say though, you have made Ryan's argument. The issue isn't revenue, the issue is over spending.

BTW...If the tax cuts were so bad why did the democrats vote to extend them for 2 years?

Since we cannot unspend that money, we need to restore the revenue that was cut,

1) Revenue wasn't cut.

2) No one is asking to "unspend" revenue that was cut, what is being asked is to reduce future spending. Why is it every state, county, and local government can reduce spending but the federal government can't"

[Chachma v'Oz]

Didn't I just ask you to stop lying? Revenues have increased every year since the Bush tax cuts (except for 2009 the height of the recession) I will say though, you have made Ryan's argument. The issue isn't revenue, the issue is over spending.

BTW...If the tax cuts were so bad why did the democrats vote to extend them for 2 years?

1) Revenue wasn't cut.

2) No one is asking to "unspend" revenue that was cut, what is being asked is to reduce future spending. Why is it every state, county, and local government can reduce spending but the federal government can't"

Goodness, you're an unpleasant fellow.

Revenue dropped in FY 2001, 2002 and 2003. They started back up in FY 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007 before all hell broke loose, sending us into a near death spiral.

Our debt is the result of what we've spent but couldn't pay for. It's not due to what our operating costs are today - that's the budget deficit. Until you understand the difference between the two you have no business thinking you can discuss national finances.

No wonder you think that people who understand these things are "lying". It's too far over your head.

[caddis]

Goodness, you're an unpleasant fellow.

Sorry, I don't tolerate lies and BS

Revenue dropped in FY 2001, 2002 and 2003.

No kidding? 2001 they began? wonder what happened in 2001 that may have hurt our economy for a while?

Regardless, the Bush tax cut of 2001 were to be phased in over a 9 year period. It was the Bush tax cuts of 2003 that were the meat and taters of what we consider "The Bush Tax Cuts"

They started back up in FY 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007

Imagine that, right after 2003....Thank you (again) for making my point

before all hell broke loose, sending us into a near death spiral.

Which had nothing to do with tax cuts.

Why did you ignore my question? "If the tax cuts were so bad why did the democrats vote to extend them for 2 years? "

[Chachma v'Oz]

Our economy had been reduced to such a shambles we were on thin ice. Responsible taxation had to take a back seat to keeping us on life support. The only thing we could stand was stimulus, and that meant borrowing even more. It's a vicious circle when you disconnect taxation from expenses through borrowing to cover shortfalls, and drastic measures have to be taken that would never be considered during normal times when smarter economic management should have ruled the day.

[Chachma v'Oz]

Apparently my initial reaction to how the selection of Ryan will be perceived by seniors wasn't off the mark.

"Mac Williams, a 62-year-old independent who receives Social Security and lives in New Port Richey, north of Tampa, was similarly turned off by Mr. Romney's choice. 'Ryan is entirely too extreme,' he said. 'I think Romney blew his chance of winning over independents.'

"On Saturday morning, as the news of Mr. Romney's choice circulated, Mr. Williams stopped at an Obama campaign office in the area and volunteered to help with its phone-bank operation. He said he had already been wary of Mr. Romney. But, he added, that morning's announcement was 'like the last nail in the coffin.'"

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...966326578.html

Thank you, Mittens, for choosing Sarah Ryan. Two events do not make a pattern, but between you and McCain your selections are setting the stage for an era of Democratic leadership without end.

[caddis]

And my initial reaction was correct. Those that are totally dependent on government will be scared into a frenzy by the democrats and since half the people in this country do not pay taxes and/or are on some sort of government assistance...we are screwed