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    This whole batman shooter thing has just really irked the shit out of me. Pretty much the same as any time the media discusses firearms or anything gun related.

    Is it really so difficult to find one guy who knows WTF he's talking about and can serve as a consultant so your reporters don't sound like fucking retards? Or do you just not care that your reporters sound like retards as long as they use scary sounding words like "ballistic material", "assault weapon" and of course the ever ominous sounding "tactical"?

    Why do we not hold the media accountable for their willful ignorance on these things?


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    Eh....The media is controlled by the left wing demigods. They will push for gun control no matter what the issue of the day is.
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    You know, I don't really even mind the people who make intelligent arguments for gun control. I think that amounts to a handful of people I've EVER discussed it with. Most people have absolutely no frikkin idea about guns at all. Not what they are, how they work, what's legal and what's not. It just amazes me how many people can be so passionate about something that they know absolutely nothing about.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jwreck View Post
    ...It just amazes me how many people can be so passionate about something that they know absolutely nothing about.
    That statement is important and can apply to almost everything presented by the MSM. They rely on ignorance because that is the easiest way to trigger emotional responses that they and the establishment can manage to their advantage. It is really the fundamental tactic used by the MSM. We see the results of it here, for example, when the Stooges do their thing.

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    It's more about qualifying for gun ownership than the gun itself. Beyond restricting firearms more deadly than full-automatic, the type of gun has little to do with how deadly assaults happen or how to minimize their impact.

    But there is more to qualification for gun ownership than claiming a 2nd amendment "...right to bear arms shall not be infringed". I pointed out in another thread that the very authors of this amendment voiced no defined objection to "infringing" on the right to bear arms. At least, I see no accounts of the feeble-minded being allowed to own cannons or bombs in that time. So rights were obviously infringed. From the very beginning. Therefore the argument is about how much can the gov't infringe on those rights, not whether the gov't has a right to infringe at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9ball8 View Post
    It's more about qualifying for gun ownership than the gun itself. Beyond restricting firearms more deadly than full-automatic, the type of gun has little to do with how deadly assaults happen or how to minimize their impact.

    But there is more to qualification for gun ownership than claiming a 2nd amendment "...right to bear arms shall not be infringed". I pointed out in another thread that the very authors of this amendment voiced no defined objection to "infringing" on the right to bear arms. At least, I see no accounts of the feeble-minded being allowed to own cannons or bombs in that time. So rights were obviously infringed. From the very beginning. Therefore the argument is about how much can the gov't infringe on those rights, not whether the gov't has a right to infringe at all.

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    Its a given that the rights are often restricted or even downright forfeited. Agree that the relevant question to intelligent debate is indeed how much. HOWEVER, you must first have an understanding of what the situation is now before you can have a discussion. This is where I have a problem. The discussion is framed in emotion and ruled by buzzwords instead of facts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jwreck View Post
    This whole batman shooter thing has just really irked the shit out of me. Pretty much the same as any time the media discusses firearms or anything gun related.

    Is it really so difficult to find one guy who knows WTF he's talking about and can serve as a consultant so your reporters don't sound like fucking retards? Or do you just not care that your reporters sound like retards as long as they use scary sounding words like "ballistic material", "assault weapon" and of course the ever ominous sounding "tactical"?

    Why do we not hold the media accountable for their willful ignorance on these things?
    In a way, we do hold them accountable. They say stupid shit...and fewer people watch/read/buy their products and services. Look at CNN...it's president just resigned. MSNBC just broke apart. Keith Olberdouche is on a channel that only he and his mom get. Dan Rather....who know's what that derp is doing these days. New York Times is posting another loss. Newsweek is going to shortly cease putting out a print copy of their magazine.

    Obviously, you'd think they'd learn not to pander so blindly to one side of the political coin...but it's equally obvious that they won't.

    Look at the retard from ABC, Brian Ross, I think, that immediately tried to draw a connection between the Aurora shooter, and the Tea Party. The guy is an investigative reporter, remember, it's what he does...yet after a google search, that returned some 25 people with the same name....he focused on the one that was a member of the Tea Party...an innocent man. This is the sixth or seventh time the 'media', and the left, have tried to connect violence with the Tea Party, and the right within hours of something bad happening. Driven as they are by ideology, they'll never change course, they'll continue losing viewers, and readers. So meh to them.

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    The media could cover the hows & whys of the assaults, rather than focusing on how an AR-15's are changed to fully automatic, or other less important factors behind the high death rate by firearms.

    Haven't seen any comparison studies by the media, of other countries where many own guns, but have a much lower rate of death by firearms. Few or no reports on programs (gov't., church or other) that have lowered violent crime rates in certain urban areas. Such things exist, but noting the lack of coverage by the media indicates their general lack of interest in actually resolving the problem of death by firearms. Instead, we get another 3-minute "in-depth" piece on the problem, showing high rates and locations, with the same canned history on US federal attempts to lower the rate. When other countries (or localities within the US) demonstrate success with lowering the rate, we need to see that.

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    Jwreck, the media has positions known as "gate keepers". They censor out crap the government doesn't like on behalf of corporations. It of course doesn't help that they are run by neo-commies. The whole point of the so called "media" is too keep the nation divided with retarded crap like racism, gay marriage etc so that the oligarchs can keep the war machine chugging a long while they plot their strategy to make us all serfs. They should all be executed starting with that Anderson Cooper fag and that dumb shit Wolfe Blitzer.

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