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    Lawsuits following a mass shooting...

    What are your thoughts on lawsuits following a shooting, as in the recent shooting in Aurora as well as other massacres such as Virginia Tech or Columbine or Fort Hood, that sue others not directly responsible for the shootings?

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    In wake of tragedy, lawyers step in: Colorado shooting survivor plans suit, says publicist | The Lookout - Yahoo! News



    Torrence Brown Jr., one of the Aurora movie shooting survivors, is planning on suing the theater, confirmed his family's publicist on Wednesday. "We're going to make sure whoever is accountable is going to take responsibility for this tragedy," Cassandra Williams of Wet PR said. She said that Brown, who was friends with 18-year-old AJ Boik, one of the shooting victims, is handling the criticism his suit has sparked. "We know it goes with the territory, so he's fine," Williams said. She added that Brown, 18, is seeking therapy and is emotionally distraught after the shooting.
    Obviously the main, and often lone target, should be the shooter. Of course there's only so much justice and reparations you can get from imprisonment and/or execution, and confiscation of all the shooter possessed.

    There is more money out there suing things like theater chains and the movie producers (Aurora case) or the university (Virginia Tech) or video games (Columbine), or the government (Fort Hood)...

    Brown's attorney Don Karpel told TMZ he plans to sue the Century 16 theater, which is owned by Cinemark, for having an exit door that was not equipped with an alarm or guarded. (Holmes reportedly left the theater through the exit door, propped it open and returned with his weapons.) Karpel also said he may sue Warner Bros for releasing violent movies that may have inspired the shooter, as well as the suspect's doctors, if he had any, for hypothetically not monitoring James Holmes' mental condition properly.
    Lawsuits certainly aren't uncommon in the wake of mass shootings like Columbine, Virginia Tech and Fort Hood. After the 1999 Columbine school shooting, some families of the young victims banded together to sue gaming companies for $5 billion. The class action alleged that the shooters were influenced by violent video games, especially one called "Doom." A federal judge dismissed the suit. And several suits against the school were also nixed. But some families did win a settlement against the shooter's parents and against friends involved in providing guns to the young men.
    J.H. Verkerke, director of the University of Virginia Law School's Program for Employment and Labor Law, told Yahoo News that in general, it would be difficult to win a claim against a theater in this type of situation unless you could prove that the theater should have known about the threat and that its safety standards are below average compared to most movie theaters. Cinemark declined to comment on the suit on Tuesday.
    Then there's the matter of notifying people as a massacre is on-going. Is it the responsibility of every kinds of possible institution or gathering (school, work, camp, etc.) to have a notification alert, and if so, how practical could it be?...

    Family members of some victims of the 2007 Virginia Tech shooting won their $8 million suit against the school for failing to notify students faster that a gunman was on campus, which they said would have saved their children's lives. The state settled with other victims' families for $11 million.
    Here's another thing for consideration... if somebody shows any trace of being troubled (and who among us hasn't been rattled or angered any time in their lives?), do we want authorities determine who is "at risk" at risk of them being sued later on?...

    More than 50 relatives of the victims of the Fort Hood massacre in 2009 sued the government, saying authorities ignored signs that the accused killer, Major Nidal Malik Hasan, was violent and dangerous.
    That's not to say people should not be irresponsible in positions where they could have helped and prevented a situtation from worsening. And you want to be sensitive to people suffering from a recent attack and/or loss and want them to be compensated as much as humanly possible without inflicting undo harm on others.

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    Case should be thrown out and the ones who sue should be liable for costs involved.


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    He might have a point concerning the fire doors not having alarms, but his contemplation that he may sue Holmes's doctors or Warner Brothers suggests to me that this is a cash grab. Therefore he should be banned from use of our nation's civil justice system for life on general principle.
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    Any lawsuit will be against the theater and not the gun manufacturers although that scum of the earth Michael Bloomberg has had some success.

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    I hate the mentality that people always think they should sue and get money when tragedy happens. Sometimes bad things happen through no negligence because you were in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's a movie theatre for god's sake. I have never in my life seen a guard at the exit door of a movie theatre... nor do I think it's necessary. There's nobody to sue and nobody to blame except Holmes himself whose mind seemed to have cracked.

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    Sue Hollywood for violent movies, that the plaintiff attended...

    I suppose he wants a 100 variations of The Piano...
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