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    Let's try another approach.

    PB, what exactly irks you about Obama's speech? I'm pretty sure this is a case of deliberately ignoring what he was saying. Prove me wrong if you like.

    So quote him. You get extra points for quoting all other relevant sentences, and will get called out for being a duplicitous hack if you don't. How's that for a neighborly warning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9ball8 View Post
    I've done well enuf at my small business, and it hasn't grown, by my own design. You see, I'm interested in a base level income to supplement my retirement income. The other critical condition I plan for is "part-time", in addition to the base income. There you have it, and I've done quite well in no small part by being conscious of reducing my debt, rather than struggling to "grow my business", increasing my income and buying more shit. Now I have something much more precious to me than toys/shit. I've bought free time.
    According to polls, majority of small business owners didn't go that route because they saw it as a road to riches or have any plans to expand beyond current operations. They simply wanted to be their own bosses and have the flexibility to do things the way they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9ball8 View Post
    And some people are unable to apportion blame where needed. If I fail at a business, than I'll have to find what portion of the blame belongs to me. Simple enough.
    I've done well enuf at my small business, and it hasn't grown, by my own design. You see, I'm interested in a base level income to supplement my retirement income. The other critical condition I plan for is "part-time", in addition to the base income. There you have it, and I've done quite well in no small part by being conscious of reducing my debt, rather than struggling to "grow my business", increasing my income and buying more shit. Now I have something much more precious to me than toys/shit. I've bought free time.

    But realize this: whether a collectivist/small capitalist hybrid style like mine, or Big Growth Objective wannabe multi-millionaire like PB, we all use police, law & order, public roads, and our customers' income that in no small part was enhanced by public education. That's just a brief list, but our businesses could not exist without gummint. You can argue that the for-profit sector should take over most of these functions, but up to this moment, I haven't heard a peep from any non-liberal on just how a for-profit would provide critical services to clients (aka, all citizens) at a better value than the gov't.

    Until you engage in that particular argument, I'll call BS, as Archaix might say.
    The big difference here amd the point your aren't getting is that the private sector can function without government or even a monetary system, but government is completely dependent upon the private sector. That kinda puts a huge hole in your milk jug, huh.
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    <The private sector can function without a government>. Care to elaborate on that? Beyond my observation that any historical or geographical examples saw either the private sector eventually begging for for law & order (the old West in the US), or accepting some other form of gov't control & taxation on their business in exchange for basic conditions required for doing business, provided by the government.

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    All the police can do is show up after a crime and take notes. Business owners end up having to defend what's theirs because government can't.
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