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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperbully View Post
    It's not a conspiracy theory when the other side admits that their intent is voter suppression.
    Nothing like twisting the truth


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    I am sure republicans in PA want Romney to win and if it takes a voter ID to clear out the fraud to do that, so what?

    I am also sure that democrats will do their very best to get people who aren't eligible to vote to the polls.
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    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...e-poor/254572/

    Even though the Justice Department acted first in December in blocking a South Carolina voter-ID law, election law experts seem to agree that the Texas case is going to be the tip of the spear. Here's how the Justice Department responded when it reviewed Texas' new voter-ID law. Federal lawyers wrote:

    "[W]e conclude that the total number of registered voters who lack a driver's license or personal identification card issued by DPS could range from 603,892 to 795,955. The disparity between the percentages of Hispanics and non-Hispanics who lack these forms of identification ranges from 46.5 to 120.0 percent. That is, according to the state's own data, a Hispanic registered voter is at least 46.5 percent, and potentially 120.0 percent, more likely than a non-Hispanic registered voter to lack this identification. Even using the data most favorable to the state, Hispanics disproportionately lack either a driver's license or a personal identification card issued by DPS, and that disparity is statistically significant."

    There's more. As Brentin Mock wrote earlier this week at Colorlines, the practical reality of life in Texas makes it difficult, if not impossible, for people who want to comply with the new ID law to do so. Mock wrote:

    "Texas has no driver's license offices in almost a third of the state's counties. Meanwhile, close to 15 percent of Hispanic Texans living in counties without driver's license offices don't have ID. A little less than a quarter of driver's license offices have extended hours, which would make it tough for many working voters to find a place and time to acquire the IDs. Despite this, the Texas legislature struck an amendment that would have reimbursed low-income voters for travel expenses when going to apply for a voter ID, and killed another that would have required offices to remain open until 7:00 p.m. or later on just one weekday, and four or more hours at least two weekends."

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    In 10 years, just 100 federal prosecutions and 50 state convictions -- in a colossal state with a population of more than 25 million people. You can do the math. You can be stupid and vote in America. You can be drunk and vote in America. You can be mentally insane and vote in America. You could vote in America for Snooki or Rod Blagojevich. Or, like tens of millions of your fellow citizens, you can choose not to vote at all. But if you don't have the means to get a driver's license, or if you cannot afford the time and money it takes to get certain other forms of government ID, you are out of luck? What a great country this is.

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    More cut and paste, can't you summarize it in your own words. It would be less boring and have more chance for someone reading it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperbully View Post
    Do you understand the English language?

    There was no mention of intent to suppress legal voters. You can keep hearing what you want to hear, the rest of us will listen to what is said


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    Quote Originally Posted by antiquity View Post
    More cut and paste, can't you summarize it in your own words. It would be less boring and have more chance for someone reading it.
    I takes all of 30 seconds to read. If that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperbully View Post
    I takes all of 30 seconds to read. If that.
    I am saying its more interesting to read what DA posters have to say than some cut and paste without comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antiquity View Post
    I am saying its more interesting to read what DA posters have to say than some cut and paste without comment.
    It may be more interesting, but it's not more productive or a better use of time. I'd rather you get the information from as close to the source as possible, rather than having to go through the process of you accusing me of being biased and then having to do what I should have done originally (post the article/statistics).

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    After your comments about the article and maybe quote a few relevant lines, just leave the web address, why is that so hard and time consuming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom&Liberty View Post
    It doesn't get much simpler. No ID, no vote. ID's are free. Get one.
    The Constitution doesn't give one the right to a ID,it does give one the right to vote.

    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom&Liberty View Post
    ChaCha - We've already been through this and you lost. With your method, voter fraud could be rampant.
    86 convctions for voter fraud,wow,what a crime wave.


    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom&Liberty View Post
    Why put poll workers in that position when photo ID removes all doubt.
    Again ,the Constitution gives one the right to vote ,regardless iof they have a photo ID or not.

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    That says it all.
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    Why are you so against fair elections.

    I would suggest you go back and listen closely at what he actually said and not what you think he said.
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    I suggest that some of you are killing a fly with a hydrogen bomb, and doing it to keep as many registered voters from voting as possible. The greater the turnout, the less chance the right wing will do well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chachma v'Oz View Post
    I suggest that some of you are killing a fly with a hydrogen bomb, and doing it to keep as many registered voters from voting as possible. The greater the turnout, the less chance the right wing will do well.
    Of course you have evidence someone/anyone is keeping legal registered voter from voting, this could be interesting.
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    Read the link in the OP.

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    SUMMARIZE IT FOR HIM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Teller View Post
    The Constitution doesn't give one the right to a ID,it does give one the right to vote.
    Ummm ..... No, it doesn't.

    86 convctions for voter fraud,wow,what a crime wave.
    How many committed fraud and didn't get caught?

    Again ,the Constitution gives one the right to vote ,regardless iof they have a photo ID or not.
    Wrong. That's twice is one post. The states determine voting laws, not the federal government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperbully View Post
    SUMMARIZE IT FOR HIM.
    Yes, because we southern people can't read, right smart ass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chachma v'Oz View Post
    I suggest that some of you are killing a fly with a hydrogen bomb, and doing it to keep as many registered voters from voting as possible. The greater the turnout, the less chance the right wing will do well.
    Correct.
    Quote Originally Posted by antiquity View Post
    Of course you have evidence someone/anyone is keeping legal registered voter from voting, this could be interesting.
    Do you have any proof of widespread voter fraud?


    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom&Liberty View Post


    How many committed fraud and didn't get caught?
    None that I know of.



    Wrong. That's twice is one post. The states determine voting laws, not the federal government.
    Ever hear of the 1965 Voting Rights Act?

    That's federal law.
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    I will concede the paucity of voter fraud. Making it harder to vote, however, is a good thing. Quality of voting is much more important than quantity.

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