William Tecumseh Sherman

[jwreck]

Dear God, I can see where this thread is going. You two should be discussing easier topics and not involve yourselves in discussions you know jack and shit about. It's embarrassing. I will not participate in this tit for tat nonsensical crap with you two retards involved. Thanks for ruining the thread with your vile presence. Later.

Stooges gonna stooge.

[86Dùde]

Because race had nothing at all to do with it.

I'm being sarcastic ,in case you didn't get that.




Unless it's Lara Logan,or anyone else in Egypt.

Again,more sarcasm from me.





And I've said that.



Japan were the invaders ,just like the CSA invaded Fort Sumter.




Churchill did that,of course,by that time Liverpool and London had more than it's share of Nazi bombings too.





That may be open to debate ,what is undebatable is that Pearl Harbor happend first.




No one defends him per se,but the fact remains that the CSA wouldn't have surrendered any other way.

Lancaster bombers weren't the only planes bombing Dresden Teller just to correct your view that it was a solely British atrocity.

[Truth Teller]

Lancaster bombers weren't the only planes bombing Dresden Teller just to correct your view that it was a solely British atrocity.

We were allies.

Anyway,I do find it hypocritical that the allies boimbed Dresden and not the train tracks to any given concentration camp.

But,even that still doesn't compare to the CSA,if Sherman attacked a POW camp with Union prisoners I might see your point,but most people who speak out against Dreseden do so because it was a POW camp that had allied POW's (Kurt Vonnegut being one) there.

Plus,the allies in WWII had a just cause,if you think the CSA was a just cause,then come out and say it,stop bullshitting us with semantics.

[86Dùde]

Dumb fuck, I do believe the CSA was a just cause. I've never denied it, but I don't have this 1 dimensional 80 IQ brain like you do so I understand the major causes of the civil war, at least six that I can think or whereas your insignificant excuse for a functioning cerebrum has been partisan mind fucked by a pathetic high school education level understanding of something you don't know a thing about. You want it to be about race, and that's all your type sees. You're a pathetic maggot. I can't believe I'm wasting my time with trash like you.

[Truth Teller]

I do believe the CSA was a just cause.

I rest my case.

[86Dùde]

You can't rest a case because you never had one. You live in a little box, a fantasy world of thought you've been fed since the cradle. You never look outside that box because you're not interested in truth but only the pathetic illusion of partisan misinformation you cling too. I'm just toying with you because I know that you're incapable of a rational conversation on the subject. You're just stuck in your old box, alone and afraid. Arguing with you about it is tantamount to discussing string theory with a 3 year old.

[Šñøü†ê®]

Anyway,I do find it hypocritical that the allies boimbed Dresden and not the train tracks to any given concentration camp.

[86Dùde]

What Teller doesn't get Jim is that the plight of the Jewish people wasn't foremost on the Allie's mind. That's not why wars occur. Oh dear God here it comes, only a matter of time before those bastards turned this into a Jew thread. I'll have to give Teller and Ganga credit because sometimes I don't even seen it coming. Damn you Teller.

[garyd]

They didn't bomb the train tracks because it was a waste of bombs. It takes little to no time to replace a couple of miles of track. I always considered the Dresden bombing a species of poetic justice. Less than five miles up the road was a concentration camp you could smeel bodies burning if the wind was right and no one said a word or lifted a finger.

[queenlillian1962]

I'm going against my word and participating in this thread despite the other 2 dumb asses attempts to derail it and of course make it into something about race.

The answer to your question is simple and in 2 parts. Number 1, of course I'd oppose the rape of any woman. Number 2, there was plenty of foulness on both sides, however, that's not the point. The point is the level of total war Sherman wrought. People universally vilify the rape of Nanking, the bombing of Dresden, the unnecessary incendiary low level bombings of the wooden city of Tokyo yet they defend the ginger faced war criminal also known as Sherman. Same shit different century. Same hypocrisy, different assholes.

I knew you didn't approve of women being raped,your a decent guy, it was a touch of sarcasm on my part. It's just people get worked up at Sherman's March 150 years later, and of course the rape of women is always wrong, but I don't think what he did was any worse than any other time in history. Sometimes total war(without the rape) is a necessary evil to put an end to a war faster.

[garyd]

Exactly Queen.

[the incredible b]

I know, the civil war had NOTHING to do with race.

of course it did, but there were many many many more factors and, really, theres enough race threads on DA.
(to say the us civil war was about race, is like saying gavrilo princip started the first world war)

You live in the Netherland's and your dad is into the civil war? Does he have any artifacts? As a token of my love for Holland I'd send him a few artifacts for free. I have thousands.

really? thanks, he'd love that! how'd that work? isnt there shipping costs? how do i know you wont put anthrax in the box ? why do you love holland, is it the hookers, the drugs, the beautiful women or the tulips?

[queenlillian1962]

of course it did, but there were many many many more factors and, really, theres enough race threads on DA.
(to say the us civil war was about race, is like saying gavrilo princip started the first world war)



really? thanks, he'd love that! how'd that work? isnt there shipping costs? how do i know you wont put anthrax in the box ? why do you love holland, is it the hookers, the drugs, the beautiful women or the tulips?

He finds the hot blondes in skimpy outfits wearing clogs interesting. Can you blame him? lol

[Truth Teller]

You can't rest a case because you never had one. You live in a little box, a fantasy world of thought you've been fed since the cradle. You never look outside that box because you're not interested in truth but only the pathetic illusion of partisan misinformation you cling too. I'm just toying with you because I know that you're incapable of a rational conversation on the subject. You're just stuck in your old box, alone and afraid. Arguing with you about it is tantamount to discussing string theory with a 3 year old.

You need to get laid,you would get rid of all of that hostility if you did.

of course it did, but there were many many many more factors

But all of those factors were related to slavery,and slavery was related to race.

[86Dùde]

of course it did, but there were many many many more factors and, really, theres enough race threads on DA.
(to say the us civil war was about race, is like saying gavrilo princip started the first world war)



really? thanks, he'd love that! how'd that work? isnt there shipping costs? how do i know you wont put anthrax in the box ? why do you love holland, is it the hookers, the drugs, the beautiful women or the tulips?

Beautiful women and Tulips for the win, but the first time I went to Amsterdam I thought it was a dump. Next 2 or 3 times it grew on me. So, yeah I live next to major battlefield and been recovering stuff for some time, bullets and small things mostly although once I dug a live artillery shell which was pretty cool.

[86Dùde]

There would be shipping costs but I think I could manage it. I doubt many dutch have fired or dropped civil war bullets and various things. It won't be much because lead is heavy but if he would like an artifact or 2 that is genuine I can send it. I'll even send you the google earth coordinates from where it was found within 2 meters.

[Cd.]

Sherman was the first modern General. He understood that wars are won through whatever means are necessary. His methods were severe but he accomplished his goals.