Are We All Palestinians Now?

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[GanjaFreebird]

Snouter, technically the Jewish people are the REAL "Palestinians", as Golda Meir said, so in a way, the answer to your question is yes, however, either way, people of Jewish ethnicity are cousins to Palestinian Arabs, so we are all Semites here, indeed!

[Šñøü†ê®]

So you agree that instead of the homosexual federal government sending drones to spy on American citizens, they should be using drones to fight forest fires?

[GanjaFreebird]

Which American citizens are we talking about? Muslim terrorists who somehow got the legal paper? Or normal Americans who are innocent of any crimes?

[Cyclone Ranger]

Spy drones?

[garyd]

That would be no. We are all not a bunch of people most of whose great grandparents lived somewhere else who now live on in the desperate hope fostered in us by our leaders of the last sixty years that eventually the Egyptians, Syrians, and Jordanians will kick out all the Jews and give us all the neat stuff they built.

[the incredible b]

That would be no. We are all not a bunch of people most of whose great grandparents lived somewhere else who now live on in the desperate hope fostered in us by our leaders of the last sixty years that eventually the Egyptians, Syrians, and Jordanians will kick out all the Jews and give us all the neat stuff they built.

at least during the ottoman rule over the area (1516-1917) there were already arabs there. quite possibly the forefathers of the current palestinians. they started wanting an own country in 1834.


quoting:

David Seddon writes that "[t]he creation of Palestinian identity in its contemporary sense was formed essentially during the 1960s, with the creation of the Palestine Liberation Organization". He adds, however, that "the existence of a population with a recognizably similar name ('the Philistines') in Biblical times suggests a degree of continuity over a long historical period (much as 'the Israelites' of the Bible suggest a long historical continuity in the same region)."

[garyd]

B under the Ottomans Palestine was lumped in with Syria/Lebanon. It was not an autonomous district. According to Mark Twain in innocents abroad, Jerusalem was at most most 10k people and no other city more than half that. There was also little in the way of industry or agriculture and given the climate without extensive irrigations which was nowhere present prior to the Jewish immigration beginning in the 1890's.

[Cyclone Ranger]

There is no evidence the Palestinians ever considered themselves a national entity before 1948, a fact underlined by Palestinian leaders' repeated insistence that Palestine was part of Syria, not an independent state.

In fact, no less prominent a Palestinian leader than Yassir Arafat told his good friend Nicolai Ceausescu: "the Palestinians lack the history, discipline, or tradition to form a nation, and a Palestinan state would be a failure fom the first day."

[garyd]

Let me do some math here. In order to believe that all of the current palestinian population was born in Palestine you'd have to believe that roughly 40k people manage to produce according to the palestinians themselves more than 5 million people in just over two generations.

[Capricorn]

There is no evidence the Palestinians ever considered themselves a national entity before 1948, a fact underlined by Palestinian leaders' repeated insistence that Palestine was part of Syria, not an independent state.

Irrelevant.

[Šñøü†ê®]

at least during the ottoman rule over the area (1516-1917) there were already arabs there. quite possibly the forefathers of the current palestinians. they started wanting an own country in 1834.

Good point.

Overview of Israelite history.

1. There is essentially no scientific evidence that Israelites ever existed.
2. According to the Old Testament, a book of mythology, their presence there was controversial and brief.
3. Yahweh was a local deity and just as fake as every other primitive deity.
4. So the whole thing is a fake, phony, fraud, but the death and destruction the ideology has caused is real.

[Cyclone Ranger]

Irrelevant.

Very relevant.

[Cyclone Ranger]

There is plenty of archeological evidence the Israelites existed, moron. Even the Biblical Minimalists don't deny that.

[Šñøü†ê®]

^Evidence?

[GanjaFreebird]

at least during the ottoman rule over the area (1516-1917) there were already arabs there. quite possibly the forefathers of the current palestinians. they started wanting an own country in 1834.


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Tough shit, the Jews have been living there for 4,000 years (some never actually left the place even when the Romans kicked most of us out), and we wanted to get our country back for 2,000 years, damn it, and now it's ours!

[GanjaFreebird]

Let me do some math here. In order to believe that all of the current palestinian population was born in Palestine you'd have to believe that roughly 40k people manage to produce according to the palestinians themselves more than 5 million people in just over two generations.

EXACTLY, and obviously anti-zionists aren't very good at math, they are just good at talking shit.

[GanjaFreebird]

Good point.

Overview of Israelite history.

1. There is essentially no scientific evidence that Israelites ever existed.

Then how can you explain your existence then? There is full scientific evidence that most modern Jewish people are originally from the mid-east and all kinds of historical evidence that proves that they lived in Israel. If that's not good enough, I don't know what is.

2. According to the Old Testament, a book of mythology, their presence there was controversial and brief.

And now our presence will be as long as we desire, considering the fact that the goyim wouldn't want to be nuked, would they?

3. Yahweh was a local deity and just as fake as every other primitive deity.

As opposed to Allah who successfully helped the Arabs destroy Israel...NOT.

4. So the whole thing is a fake, phony, fraud, but the death and destruction the ideology has caused is real.

And if the savages don't leave Israel alone and accept our right to exist, there will be MUCH MORE death and destruction, so that's what I've been trying to say...better chill the fuck out.

[GanjaFreebird]

^Evidence?

You've been to Israel enough times to be aware of a lot of that evidence, so stop pretending you're even dumber than you actually are.

[Šñøü†ê®]

And now our presence will be as long as we desire, considering the fact that the goyim wouldn't want to be nuked, would they?

Are you sure the Zionist Deity is not SATAN? The homosexual Yahweh Deity would simply inflict disease, famine, etc. and not have to resort to MAN MADE WEAPONS!