View Poll Results: Is yahweh THE CREATOR or a FAKE, PHONY, FRAUD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone Ranger View Post
    Whether you're a Judeo-Christian or a scientific rationalist (or both), the universe does have a point of origin. It's not eternal and uncreated.
    There is no evidence that a point of origin is necessary to anything. Human anxiety requires a point of origin, not physics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone Ranger View Post
    Whether you're a Judeo-Christian or a scientific rationalist (or both), the universe does have a point of origin. It's not eternal and uncreated.
    It's big bangs all the way back.

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    Apparently CR hasn't ever heard of string theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the incredible b View Post
    why would you think they cant consider it? they just reject it after they do. maybe you have a problem considering that possibility.
    Some people look at the dogma associated with a creator, throw the baby out with the bath water and dismiss it as Mythology. That's what I don't understand. Why is it so hard to believe that a being exsists that is more advanced than us and might have the capability of creating an entire universe? I have considered life without a diety but find it highly unlikely as there must be a top of the cosmic food chain based on what I see on earth. That is what God is, the top of the food chain,the highest being,how can there not be one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenlillian1962 View Post
    Some people look at the dogma associated with a creator, throw the baby out with the bath water and dismiss it as Mythology.
    That's exactly what it is. Mythology.

    Quote Originally Posted by queenlillian1962 View Post
    That's what I don't understand. Why is it so hard to believe that a being exsists that is more advanced than us and might have the capability of creating an entire universe?
    The placement of our species relative to all others in the multiverse is irrelevant.

    You assume the existence of a creation, so you look for a creator and point of origin. The assumption is anthrocentric. It's your tiny mind that requires a point of origin, a beginning.

    Quantum physics says there's no such thing as nothing. Given any point in space-time, something is there, and has always been there.

    Creation itself is a myth.

    Quote Originally Posted by queenlillian1962 View Post
    I have considered life without a diety but find it highly unlikely as there must be a top of the cosmic food chain based on what I see on earth. That is what God is, the top of the food chain,the highest being,how can there not be one?
    There you go again, trying to understand things in human terms. You are generalizing from the specific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trgfbv View Post
    Yahweh is man made.
    Ahaw...who made him? Does he have a patent or at least a copyright? Can I franchise it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenlillian1962 View Post
    Some people look at the dogma associated with a creator, throw the baby out with the bath water and dismiss it as Mythology. That's what I don't understand. Why is it so hard to believe that a being exsists that is more advanced than us and might have the capability of creating an entire universe? I have considered life without a diety but find it highly unlikely as there must be a top of the cosmic food chain based on what I see on earth. That is what God is, the top of the food chain,the highest being,how can there not be one?
    Why would he care? When is the last time you left a tablet on an ant hill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86Dùde View Post
    Apparently CR hasn't ever heard of string theory.
    String theorists don't posit a steady state universe. Nice try, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olecapt View Post
    Ahaw...who made him? Does he have a patent or at least a copyright? Can I franchise it?
    Anyone can start their own Jesus con operation There is no copyright or patent law to limit you. Everyone can talk in tongues, handle snakes and be a mediator to the imaginary and supernatural.

    Have you got big hair? You will be more successful. If you have big hair and can cry on cue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenlillian1962 View Post
    Some people look at the dogma associated with a creator, throw the baby out with the bath water and dismiss it as Mythology. That's what I don't understand. Why is it so hard to believe that a being exsists that is more advanced than us and might have the capability of creating an entire universe? I have considered life without a diety but find it highly unlikely as there must be a top of the cosmic food chain based on what I see on earth. That is what God is, the top of the food chain,the highest being,how can there not be one?
    It is hard to believe that a being exists because no evidence has been found to support it. Gods are man made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenlillian1962 View Post
    Actually for me there is no question, I'm 100% positive there is a creator like you are sure the sun will rise tomorrow. Maybe that was an inaccurate way to word what I personally think. What I never understand is people who can't even consider the possibility.
    That's because you qualified it with "for me". You could also write "for me 2 + 2 = 5" or, "in my math system, 2 + 2 = 5". Just because "for you" there is a creator doesn't mean there is a creator. Just because a delusional person thinks there is a pink elephant in the room doesn't mean there is a pink elephant in the room.

    But if it makes you happy to think that way, that's fine. Happiness trumps reality. I'd rather be happy and wrong than unhappy and correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trgfbv View Post
    It is hard to believe that a being exists because no evidence has been found to support it. Gods are man made.
    Science and religion are both man made. The evidence for God's existence is everywhere.
    When will the world learn that a million men are of no importance compared with one man? [Henry David Thoreau]

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    It is not Yahweh but the followers of Yahweh I think are frauds.
    Do unto other nations what you would want other nations to do unto us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom&Liberty View Post
    Science and religion are both man made. The evidence for God's existence is everywhere.
    I've never seen any.

    If I saw a knife, does that necessarily mean it is evidence you murdered someone?

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    You're ignoring what's there. Try a mirror.
    When will the world learn that a million men are of no importance compared with one man? [Henry David Thoreau]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom&Liberty View Post
    You're ignoring what's there. Try a mirror.
    Are you ignoring chemistry and biology?

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    Are you ignoring the human mind that's capable of understanding chemistry and biology?
    When will the world learn that a million men are of no importance compared with one man? [Henry David Thoreau]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom&Liberty View Post
    Science and religion are both man made. The evidence for God's existence is everywhere.
    Where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom&Liberty View Post
    Are you ignoring the human mind that's capable of understanding chemistry and biology?
    No.

    Next question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom&Liberty View Post
    Science and religion are both man made. The evidence for God's existence is everywhere.
    You're ignoring what's there. Try a mirror.
    why not back these statements up with...anything. just a little someting. an example, a train of thought, anything more than an "is to!" will do.
    "...and from these walls laughter will run over the world and infect with courage the bent, laborious peon of antiquity." - 'Desolation Angels', Jack Kerouac

    "...now you're really in the total animal soup of time..." - 'Howl', Allen Ginsberg

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_method


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