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    Quote Originally Posted by GanjaFreebird View Post
    Annoy me, yes, but force their religious values on me, no.
    Please explain how a Mormon has been trying to force their religion on you? Or any religious group?
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    Quote Originally Posted by antiquity View Post
    Point out where Romney did that?
    Who said anything about Romney?

    He wasn't mentioned until you brought him up.

    If you read the article, it even said that Mormons from other states (which Romeny is) are shocked by Utah Mormons.

    But as I recall Jews freaks have been pushing the guilt trip on us for years and years.
    Jews (not even Orthodox) don't try to convert.

    Quote Originally Posted by antiquity View Post

    Actually the Mormon church takes care of its own just like the Quakers in your part of the country.
    You're right,we do have a lot of Quakers and Amish in my area ,and they don't try to convert ,nor do they harass or intimidate.

    In fact,the Amish let their young experience "the world" and give them the choice to stay or leave.

    The Quakers ,Amish, and Jews that I've known don't force their will on me,and I treat them the same way.

    Quote Originally Posted by GanjaFreebird View Post
    The US isn't paying ANY religious groups billions. Nevertheless, Jesus freaks can be very annoying with their anti-abortion, anti-gay, anti-sex and anti-feminist guilt trips.
    As this article said,in Utah even a rag like the National Enquier is only sold in plastic wrap,as if it were hard-core porn.

    And there was the story of one white woman who wears dreadlocks and is bisexual,a bunch of Mormons got out of a truck and started beating her with baseball bats while yelling "fag" at her.

    That's not much different from Lara Logan in Tahrir Square ,except that some Egyptians (including some Muslims) did come to her aid as soon as they could,no one at all came to to the aid of this woman in Utah.

    Why does Utah have the highest suicide rate of gay tenagers in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by antiquity View Post
    That is their right to annoy you as granted by the Constitution of the United States.
    What part of the Constitution allows violence or harassment?

    I guess you could always move back to that oppressive state of Israel and get a US tax payers paid for apartment built in the occupied section of the West Bank.
    Did you get that from your last Klan rally?


    Quote Originally Posted by Powerboss View Post
    Teller hates religion and believes there should be a religious test for political candidates.
    You're lying out of your ass.

    I'm in favor of freedom of religion,but you can't have true freedom of religion without having freedom from religon as well.

    FWIW,I've spoken out against all religious bigotry (even lily gave me credit for that),including how the USA persecuted the Mormons and I compaired what the US did to Mormons to the Holocaust.

    But this is 2012,so let's stay up to date ,ok?


    He's attempting to smear Romney via guilt through association.
    You're lying.

    It's very clear Teller Hates Mormons with every fiber of his being.
    I actually like and respect like John Huntsman (who is a Republican as well) and Harry Reid,and as far as I know Mitt Romney is a decent human being,I just think he'd be a bad president.

    So please stop lying Powerboss.


    Quote Originally Posted by Powerboss View Post
    Freedom entails people or groups of people attempting to force their shit on them. It's called the democratic process, idiot.
    The Democratic process does not allow for theocracy,Utah is a defacto theocracy.


    The right wants it's values and the left want's it's values in society
    Wrong ,the right wants to force it's values on eveybody else,the left says "You do your thing ,I'll do mine".


    Quote Originally Posted by caddis View Post
    Or maybe you are too stupid to understand what it takes to start a thread.
    I post at work whenever I have time (some days I have a lot of free time,somedays none at all),so I often don't have time to give a dissertation.

    Again ,if one is either too stupid or too lazy to read a link,then fuck 'em.





    Quote Originally Posted by antiquity View Post
    Please explain how a Mormon has been trying to force their religion on you?

    They do in Utah,read the article you fool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Teller View Post
    Who said anything about Romney?
    No of course Romney isn't on your mind when you post about Mormons.

    He wasn't mentioned until you brought him up.
    And the Mormon church wouldn't the topic either if Romney wasn't running for office.

    Funny you don't mention Harry Reid as he is a Mormon also.

    If you read the article, it even said that Mormons from other states (which Romeny is) are shocked by Utah Mormons.
    I am shocked!

    Jews (not even Orthodox) don't try to convert.

    You're right,we do have a lot of Quakers and Amish in my area ,and they don't try to convert ,nor do they harass or intimidate.

    In fact,the Amish let their young experience "the world" and give them the choice to stay or leave.

    The Quakers ,Amish, and Jews that I've known don't force their will on me,and I treat them the same way.
    Relate the story where a Mormon tried to force their will on you.

    As this article said,in Utah even a rag like the National Enquier is only sold in plastic wrap,as if it were hard-core porn.
    irrelevant...

    And there was the story of one white woman who wears dreadlocks and is bisexual,a bunch of Mormons got out of a truck and started beating her with baseball bats while yelling "fag" at her.
    Does this happen every day or you still just ranting over one issue and want to condemn every Mormon or religious group for political purposes.

    Why does Utah have the highest suicide rate of gay tenagers in the USA?
    Be my guess is because of harassment from people like you.

    What part of the Constitution allows violence or harassment?
    The same part that allows OWS violence and people like you to harass religious groups.

    Did you get that from your last Klan rally?
    You wouldn't sell me a sheet.

    I'm in favor of freedom of religion,but you can't have true freedom of religion without having freedom from religon as well.
    No you are not, if you were you wouldn't be spouting your shit against religion.

    The Democratic process does not allow for theocracy,Utah is a defacto theocracy.
    Evidence?

    Wrong ,the right wants to force it's values on eveybody else,the left says "You do your thing ,I'll do mine".
    Of course the left doesn't want to force their values on anyone do they? Does the HC mandates refresh your memory by any chance.

    I post at work whenever I have time (some days I have a lot of free time,somedays none at all),so I often don't have time to give a dissertation.
    You need a real productive job.

    They do in Utah,read the article you fool.
    I have been to Utah and lived with a Mormon family for one summer and while I am not Mormon, I didn't see anything like you would have all the DA posters believe. Mormons take care of their own without or with minimum help from the government, can your religion say that?
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    From the article
    My partner, Michael, and I had lived in Utah only a few weeks when Ezekiel paid us his first visit. Close to 90 and crippled by arthritis, Ezekiel was our neighbor. It took him half an hour to walk the stretch of lawn between our houses. When he got to the concrete steps of our porch, he would fall to his knees, then climb the stairs to ring the bell. Upon learning we were nonbelievers, he arrived monthly, often bearing produce from his garden along with his testimony.

    We tolerated his visits because we didn’t want to offend, but his persistence became annoying. “If you read the Book of Mormon with an open heart,” he would say, “then you will know it is true.” He described how often he prayed for us and the temple work his wife was doing in our name. Pamphlets were wedged in our door, paperback copies of Mormon literature left on our steps. Michael and I found ourselves hiding in our own house, asking, “Do you think he’s still there?” I threw the zucchini away, along with the books. I felt that accepting anything from him meant accepting all of it.

    One day, perhaps not long after a student called me a “feminazi” on my teaching evaluations, I watched Ezekiel from the window as he walked toward our house. Instead of hiding, I opened the door before he could even ring, just as he picked up his body from the ground. “Come in,” I said. I helped him up the stairs. I could feel the thin bones in his arms, the push of his ribs. At any other moment, such fragility in a human being would have cast me back on my own mortality. Now his efforts just incensed me.

    He collapsed into the couch, back rounded, breath coming quickly. I offered him water, the only beverage in the house I knew he was allowed to drink.

    “Have you read the books I have given you?” he asked, taking the glass from me. His hand shook, water sloshing at the rim. “Have you prayed on them?”

    Standing in front of his broken form, my urge was to throw my clothes off and stand naked in front of him. I wanted to be seen not as someone to convert but as someone who could refuse his version of salvation and still not be lost. While he continued to talk about Scripture, I imagined him shielding his gaze from my breasts.

    Instead, clothed and standing, I screamed, “We don’t want to become Mormon!” He flinched, drew his hand to his chest, and was silent.
    I think it was at this point that whatever sympathy I had for the author dropped to zero, perhaps even negative integers. The proper thing to do would have been to refuse the old guy's offers politely and early, rather than passively-aggressively tolerating the annoyance he caused her to the point that she was eager to take out her frustrations for a completely unrelated incident upon him.

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    If I were gay or black and I lived in Utah, the first thing I would do is move out of Utah. Utah is weird - you wouldn't catch me ever living there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Teller View Post
    Who said anything about Romney?

    He wasn't mentioned until you brought him up.

    If you read the article, it even said that Mormons from other states (which Romeny is) are shocked by Utah Mormons.
    We can assume your interest (or disinterest) in Mormons has peaked recently because of Romney and you posted this article to link Romney to the same views of the extremists in this particular religion....Just as Bush was linked to the extremist thoughts of some Evangelicals...

    And there was the story of one white woman who wears dreadlocks and is bisexual,a bunch of Mormons got out of a truck and started beating her with baseball bats while yelling "fag" at her.

    That's not much different from Lara Logan in Tahrir Square ,except that some Egyptians (including some Muslims) did come to her aid as soon as they could,no one at all came to to the aid of this woman in Utah.
    Do you realize how lame and asinine you sound bringing up this isolated event and linking it to a Religion instead of laying the entire blame on ignorance and bigotry?

    As to the Lara Logan claim....really? really?

    TT, the events are in no way comparable, please stop bringing Lara up...keep her safe in your own sexual fantasies

    Why does Utah have the highest suicide rate of gay tenagers in the USA?
    They can't have a soda pop or cigarette to release some of their frustrations?



    I post at work whenever I have time (some days I have a lot of free time,somedays none at all),so I often don't have time to give a dissertation.

    Again ,if one is either too stupid or too lazy to read a link,then fuck 'em.
    If you have time to read a lame-ass article and form a disjointed opinion from the fragments of trash you have gleamed, and if you have time to log on to DA and start the thread, then it doesn't take any more time to cut and paste a few relevant portions of the article you have linked.
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    TT shouldnt provide anyone with his commentary on freedom of religion or freedom from religion. We all know its all or nothing with him; and with each and every post or thread he makes, it is proven.

    We all know he is pro Isreal and pro hebrew and any chance he gets, no matter how insignificant a fact will be, he will blow it out of proportion to make an entire religion look far worse than it really is. In this case, he is singling out mormonism and the entire state of Utah. I'll bet that hes never been to Utah.

    TT, you are the enemy of freedom, not a champion of it.
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    In an early thread TT said he has never been west of Chicago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antiquity View Post
    In an early thread TT said he has never been west of Chicago.
    I've been to Utah and it is mind blowingly beautiful. Everyone is friendly and polite.
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    Totally agree. Like I said in an early post I lived with a Mormon family for one summer and had a great time.
    When I cracked open a pack of cigarettes you would have thought I had broken into a bank.
    The kids I hung with stole gas for their cars and drink beer like any kid at that age in my home town.

    The fishing was great in the near by mountains and Saltaire amusement park on the banks of the Great Salt Lake was two outstanding highlights of the summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antiquity View Post
    No of course Romney isn't on your mind when you post about Mormons.
    And Obama isn't on your mind when you post about Rev. Wright.

    And the Mormon church wouldn't the topic either if Romney wasn't running for office.
    And Rev. Wright wouldn't be a topic if it weren't an election year.

    Funny you don't mention Harry Reid as he is a Mormon also.
    Actually ,I did mention Reid and Huntsman.

    And if Harry Reid were the Democratic canidate for president ,you can bet your redneck ass that the GOP would be bringing up his Mormonism.


    Relate the story where a Mormon tried to force their will on you.
    I am not sepaking about myself.

    Maybe you right-wing assholes are so myopic that you see the world in terms of "self" and nothing else ,my worldview is wider than that.

    irrelevant...
    No ,it isn't ,to me it's a sign of a repressive culture.

    Does this happen every day
    It shouldn't happen any day.

    or you still just ranting over one issue and want to condemn every Mormon or religious group for political purposes.
    This from a guy who blames Jews for everything from the price of gasonlie to his lousy sex life.

    Be my guess is because of harassment from people like you.
    More like harassment from your right-wing homeys.


    You wouldn't sell me a sheet.
    I wouldn't have to.

    No you are not, if you were you wouldn't be spouting your shit against religion.
    You're a lying wingnut out to deliberately start a fight.

    Evidence?
    It's hard to buy booze theree.



    Of course the left doesn't want to force their values on anyone do they? Does the HC mandates refresh your memory by any chance.
    Spin.

    I have been to Utah and lived with a Mormon family for one summer and while I am not Mormon, I didn't see anything like you would have all the DA posters believe.
    So ,because you lived with one Mormon family in the 1950s,that makes everything this artcie says about the present-day inaccuarate?



    Mormons take care of their own without or with minimum help from the government, can your religion say that?
    What's my relelgion?


    Quote Originally Posted by Alberto_Balsalm View Post
    I think it was at this point that whatever sympathy I had for the author dropped to zero, perhaps even negative integers. The proper thing to do would have been to refuse the old guy's offers politely and early, rather than passively-aggressively tolerating the annoyance he caused her to the point that she was eager to take out her frustrations for a completely unrelated incident upon him.
    You what I'd say to people out to convert me,but don't take "no" for an answer?

    IT'S NONE OF YOUR MOTHERFUCKING BUISINESS!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu View Post
    If I were gay or black and I lived in Utah, the first thing I would do is move out of Utah. Utah is weird - you wouldn't catch me ever living there.
    But God "changed his mind" about black people in 1978.

    Quote Originally Posted by caddis View Post
    We can assume your interest (or disinterest) in Mormons has peaked recently because of Romney and you posted this article to link Romney to the same views of the extremists in this particular religion
    This article was written and published now.

    Romney might be why people are interested in this subject now.

    Do you realize how lame and asinine you sound bringing up this isolated event and linking it to a Religion instead of laying the entire blame on ignorance and bigotry?
    Are you saying there isn't a lot of ingnorance and bigotry in Utah?

    As to the Lara Logan claim....really? really?

    TT, the events are in no way comparable
    As I said ,a coupe of Egyptans helped Logan,no Mormons /Utahians helped this woman.

    please stop bringing Lara up...keep her safe in your own sexual fantasies
    One has got to be an ignorant asshole to say that.

    Quote Originally Posted by antiquity View Post
    In an early thread TT said he has never been west of Chicago.
    I've never been to China,The Sudan or Iran either,but I know about the repession that goes on in those places.
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    Teller, but you should probably get out of the basement you live in and get some fresh air. Maybe even take a trip to Utah. I wil bet you $9.99 it is much less racist than Hassidic sections of Brooklyn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by caddis View Post

    If you have time to read a lame-ass article and form a disjointed opinion from the fragments of trash you have gleamed, and if you have time to log on to DA and start the thread, then it doesn't take any more time to cut and paste a few relevant portions of the article you have linked.
    You don't know shit about my job,time or anything else related to me.

    Plus ,you don't know what this board is like for a dyslexic like me.

    Of course ,if you actually knew what you were talking about,then you wouldn't be a conservative at all,would you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 302Riz View Post
    TT shouldnt provide anyone with his commentary on freedom of religion or freedom from religion.
    CENSORSHIP ALERT!

    We all know its all or nothing with him
    Care to back that up?

    We all know he is pro Isreal
    Israel is a secular state ,you fool.

    and pro hebrew
    What does that mean?

    and any chance he gets, no matter how insignificant a fact will be, he will blow it out of proportion to make an entire religion look far worse than it really is. In this case, he is singling out mormonism and the entire state of Utah. I'll bet that hes never been to Utah.
    You have become the same kind of buffoon that Snouter is.

    TT, you are the enemy of freedom, not a champion of it.
    You wouldn't know "freedom" if it bit you on your ignorant ass.


    Quote Originally Posted by 302Riz View Post
    I've been to Utah and it is mind blowingly beautiful. Everyone is friendly and polite.
    So ,you've met everyone in Utah now? :scrtch:
    It is difficult for any decent person to sit back and not comment on the anti-Semitism,racism ,sexism ,and all-around ignorance espoused on the majority of DA's posts,it's fucking sad when one gets a warning for simply being a decent person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Šñøü†ê® View Post
    Teller, but you should probably get out of the basement you live in
    I don't live in a basement you buffoon.
    It is difficult for any decent person to sit back and not comment on the anti-Semitism,racism ,sexism ,and all-around ignorance espoused on the majority of DA's posts,it's fucking sad when one gets a warning for simply being a decent person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Teller View Post
    You what I'd say to people out to convert me,but don't take "no" for an answer?

    IT'S NONE OF YOUR MOTHERFUCKING BUISINESS!
    Uh... good for you? And could you please inform me what that has to do with my reaction to the passage that I highlighted from the article?

    It's pretty clear that the author did nothing to dissuade the old dude from trying to convert her over a long period. Then, because some student of hers called her a "feminazi," she took out her frustrations on the old dude, apparently nearly causing him a heart attack. Up to that point, she never told him anything resembling no, choosing instead to deal with the annoyance he caused her in a passive-aggressive manner, culminating in her aforementioned display of complete asshattery.

    I also take issue with her throwing out perfectly good food due to her anti-Mormon paranoia. She could have at least given it to a shelter or someone less fortunate than her, don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Teller View Post
    You're lying out of your ass.
    No, I'm not. I'm holding you accountable for your ugly smears and lies.

    I'm in favor of freedom of religion,but you can't have true freedom of religion without having freedom from religon as well.
    No you're not. You're in favor of the all powerful state dictating to religious institutions what they can and cannot do.

    FWIW,I've spoken out against all religious bigotry (even lily gave me credit for that),including how the USA persecuted the Mormons and I compaired what the US did to Mormons to the Holocaust.

    But this is 2012,so let's stay up to date ,ok?
    You're obviously posting all this negative Mormon shit lately to associate Romney to it. Can't you just be honest for once and admit that?

    You're lying.
    No, I'm Truth Telling. Your flurry of posts about Mormons and the Mormon religion is obvious.


    I actually like and respect like John Huntsman (who is a Republican as well) and Harry Reid,and as far as I know Mitt Romney is a decent human being,I just think he'd be a bad president.
    Then why are you trying to associate bad Mormon smears lately? Do you expect us to believe, given your history of smearing people you want to be defeated, that you're just posting all this for the hell of it?

    So please stop lying Powerboss.
    I'm not lying. I don't need to. Your own statements seal the deal.


    The Democratic process does not allow for theocracy,Utah is a defacto theocracy.
    Really? How many times have you been there?

    I've been there numerous times and not once did I ever feel or get harassed about anything.


    Wrong ,the right wants to force it's values on eveybody else,the left says "You do your thing ,I'll do mine".
    The world of denial that you live in. That's the most laughable thing you've said in a long time.

    Please explain Obamacare as it relates to your statement.
    Please explain how you want to force employers to hire people they don't want to hire as it relates to your statement.
    Please explain how you want to force people to listen to content they otherwise don't want to listen to via the fairness doctrine as it relates to your statement.

    I can add more examples that nullify your absurd statement if you'd like. You're a totalitarian statist, a nasty, lying one at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antiquity View Post
    Totally agree. Like I said in an early post I lived with a Mormon family for one summer and had a great time.
    When I cracked open a pack of cigarettes you would have thought I had broken into a bank.
    The kids I hung with stole gas for their cars and drink beer like any kid at that age in my home town.

    The fishing was great in the near by mountains and Saltaire amusement park on the banks of the Great Salt Lake was two outstanding highlights of the summer.
    Me and my wife took a 5 hour horseback ride with a genuine cowboy and he took us through slot canyons in Escalante National Staircase. We saw 1000 year old native American petroglyphs carved on canyon walls, watched the sunset on a beautiful prairie on top of a mesa outside Zion national park, hiked through Kodachrome Basin and during our travels, met plenty of native Utah people and not one we came across came off as arrogant, rude or having agenda of any kind. An agnostic, interracial couple from New York vacationing in Utah, you would think we would get shit, crooked looks or comments but im sure to your disappointment TT, it didnt happen. We plan on going back in the future and spending even more time there since we loved it so much.

    I can honestly say TT that I have visited Utah and met the natives Can you say the same and not put a spin on it without making yourself look like a total asshole?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 302Riz View Post
    Me and my wife took a 5 hour horseback ride with a genuine cowboy and he took us through slot canyons in Escalante National Staircase. We saw 1000 year old native American petroglyphs carved on canyon walls, watched the sunset on a beautiful prairie on top of a mesa outside Zion national park, hiked through Kodachrome Basin and during our travels, met plenty of native Utah people and not one we came across came off as arrogant, rude or having agenda of any kind. An agnostic, interracial couple from New York vacationing in Utah, you would think we would get shit, crooked looks or comments but im sure to your disappointment TT, it didnt happen. We plan on going back in the future and spending even more time there since we loved it so much.

    I can honestly say TT that I have visited Utah and met the natives Can you say the same and not put a spin on it without making yourself look like a total asshole?
    Absolutely beautiful up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberto_Balsalm View Post


    It's pretty clear that the author did nothing to dissuade the old dude from trying to convert her over a long period.
    No ,that's not clear to me at all.

    She always told him "No",how many times does one have to be told "no" before they finally get the message?

    But you are a Evangelical,so you have empathy with proselytizing.

    IMO, it's an invasion of privacy.

    Then, because some student of hers called her a "feminazi,"
    An example of the ultra right-wing culture in Utah.

    Again,you are right-wing ,so you are clueless as to what is offensive about that.

    she took out her frustrations on the old dude,
    How much abuse over a period of time can one take?


    Or,how much should one take?



    apparently nearly causing him a heart attack.
    I'd say he did it to himself for going up her narrow steps for countless years,despite the fact he knew his health was far from perfect.



    she never told him anything resembling no
    Where I come from ,we were raised to be polite,but after countless years of bullshit,that politeness can be stretched.

    choosing instead to deal with the annoyance he caused her in a passive-aggressive manner, culminating in her aforementioned display of complete asshattery.

    I also take issue with her throwing out perfectly good food due to her anti-Mormon paranoia. She could have at least given it to a shelter or someone less fortunate than her, don't you think?


    Quote Originally Posted by Powerboss View Post
    No, I'm not. I'm holding you accountable for your ugly smears and lies.



    No you're not. You're in favor of the all powerful state dictating to religious institutions what they can and cannot do.



    You're obviously posting all this negative Mormon shit lately to associate Romney to it. Can't you just be honest for once and admit that?



    No, I'm Truth Telling. Your flurry of posts about Mormons and the Mormon religion is obvious.




    Then why are you trying to associate bad Mormon smears lately? Do you expect us to believe, given your history of smearing people you want to be defeated, that you're just posting all this for the hell of it?



    I'm not lying. I don't need to. Your own statements seal the deal.



    How many times have you been there?
    As many times as I've been to Iran ,yet I know what a shithole Iran is.

    I've been there numerous times and not once did I ever feel or get harassed about anything.
    You don't share their religion,but you do share their culture and their cultural views.

    And this is about culture,not about religion.




    Please explain Obamacare as it relates to your statement.
    Please explain how you want to force employers to hire people they don't want to hire as it relates to your statement.
    Please explain how you want to force people to listen to content they otherwise don't want to listen to via the fairness doctrine as it relates to your statement.



    Quote Originally Posted by 302Riz View Post
    Me and my wife took a 5 hour horseback ride with a genuine cowboy and he took us through slot canyons in Escalante National Staircase. We saw 1000 year old native American petroglyphs carved on canyon walls, watched the sunset on a beautiful prairie on top of a mesa outside Zion national park, hiked through Kodachrome Basin and during our travels, met plenty of native Utah people and not one we came across came off as arrogant, rude or having agenda of any kind.
    Good.

    An agnostic, interracial couple from New York vacationing in Utah
    The Mormon Church says that God "changed his mind" about black people in 1978,so I wouldn't expect you to get a hard time for being interracial.



    you would think we would get shit, crooked looks or comments but im sure to your disappointment TT, it didnt happen.
    And as I told Powerboss: You don't share their religious views,but you do share their cultural views(as does Alberto).

    Again ,this topic is not about religion,it's about culture,in particular :Socially conservative culture.
    Last edited by Truth Teller; 05-26-2012 at 04:39 PM.
    It is difficult for any decent person to sit back and not comment on the anti-Semitism,racism ,sexism ,and all-around ignorance espoused on the majority of DA's posts,it's fucking sad when one gets a warning for simply being a decent person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caddis View Post

    As to the Lara Logan claim....really? really?

    TT, the events are in no way comparable
    Utah is more than 60% Mormon and even more of the population subscribe to Mormon culture.

    Lara Logan: A mob of locals attacked her with fists ,sticks and flagpoles while chanting "Jew,jew" at her.

    This (publicily) bisexual white woman in Utah who wears dreadlocks: A mob of locals attacked her with baseball bats while yelling "Fag" at her.

    I don't see much difference.

    One difference , some Egyptians came to Lara Logan's aid ,no one in Utah came this woman's aid.

    What happend to Lara Logan in Egypt was not due to religion,but due to culture.

    What happend to this bisexual woman In Utah was not due to religion,but due to culture.
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    It is difficult for any decent person to sit back and not comment on the anti-Semitism,racism ,sexism ,and all-around ignorance espoused on the majority of DA's posts,it's fucking sad when one gets a warning for simply being a decent person.

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