Top military commander reiterates Iran's commitment to "full annihilation of Israel"

[Cyclone Ranger]

Can't the MOSSAD cause a revolution in the zionist regime if the filthy Muslims gain complete control"

You seem to believe MOSSAD are omnipotent deities wielding God-like powers.

[Archaix]

As an Israeli, Ganja is in a far better position to hypothesize what Israelis will or will not do than you are.

That is at the same time very true and profoundly unimportant.

[Cyclone Ranger]

...in your imagination.

[Capricorn]

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9102112759

Wonder how long it'll take Capricorn to show up and deny he really meant annihilate Israel?

Dishonest thread and its title. If you want an intelligent debate, you guys try not to deceive with words or post mistranslations.

Thread title:
Top military commander reiterates Iran's commitment to "full annihilation of Israel"

What he actually said :

Top Commander Reiterates Iran's Commitment to Full Annihilation of Israel

TEHRAN (FNA)- Chief of Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces Major General Hassan Firouzabadi said threats and pressures cannot deter Iran from its revolutionary causes and ideals, and stressed that the Iranian nation will remain committed to the full annihilation of the Zionist regime of Israel to the end.

[Cyclone Ranger]

"Zionist regime" means Israel.

The Arabs refer to it as the Zionist regime or Zionist entity, because they don't want to legitimate it by referring to as Israel.

[Alberto_Balsalm]

Dishonest thread and its title. If you want an intelligent debate, you guys try not to deceive with words or post mistranslations.

Thread title:
Top military commander reiterates Iran's commitment to "full annihilation of Israel"

What he actually said :

Top Commander Reiterates Iran's Commitment to Full Annihilation of Israel

TEHRAN (FNA)- Chief of Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces Major General Hassan Firouzabadi said threats and pressures cannot deter Iran from its revolutionary causes and ideals, and stressed that the Iranian nation will remain committed to the full annihilation of the Zionist regime of Israel to the end.

Maybe you should have read past the first paragraph and particularly looked at the third paragraph which contains the direct quote from him upon which the article and the thread title are based:

He reiterated the Iranian nation and Supreme Leader's emphasis on the necessity of support for the oppressed Palestinian nation and its causes, and noted, "The Iranian nation is standing for its cause that is the full annihilation of Israel."

I advise you to retract this allegation of dishonesty on my part. Have a nice day.

[Capricorn]

Maybe you should have read past the first paragraph and particularly looked at the third paragraph which contains the direct quote from him upon which the article and the thread title are based:



I advise you to retract this allegation of dishonesty on my part. Have a nice day.

Deliberate mistranslation. I standby my post.

[Capricorn]

"Zionist regime" means Israel.

The Arabs refer to it as the Zionist regime or Zionist entity, because they don't want to legitimate it by referring to as Israel.

Nope, when Netanyahu demands regime change in Iran, does he mean annihilation of all Iranians in Iran or the whole Iranian nation then?

And Iran is not an Arab nation.

[Cyclone Ranger]

No, because the Israelis refer to Iran as Iran, and not "the Persian regime."

As anyone can easily verify for themselves, over many decades, the Iranians and the other Muslin states have used "the Zionist regime" as a euphemism for Israel to avoid acknowledging it as a nation, the same way Snouter does.

Therefore, when some Iranian douchebag or obese Internet troll refers to the annihilation of the "Zionist regime," he means the annihilation of Israel, full stop - and all your lies won't change it.

[Capricorn]

No, because the Israelis refer to Iran as Iran, and not "the Persian regime."

So if Iranians want "Zionist regime", gone, they actually mean all of Israel as a nation and its people but if Israel want to attack and destroy Iran, they mean only the Iranian regime gone and not all of Iran and its people?

Do you hear what you are saying?

[Truth Teller]

But you claim the zionist regime is a country founded on a particular religion! WTF? Or will you finally admit it is based purely on an insane, racist ideology?

"Zionism" isn't about either religion or "race",it's about legitimate self-defense.

Holy fluck! It's like I never left!!

I'm glad you're back,we don't agree on everything,but you're one of the best posters here.

This sounds more like they want the end of Israel as a Jewish state rather than the ethnic cleansing of the whole region of Jews. I know Israel being Jewish is centrally important to you Zionists, which is how this confusion keeps coming about.

Spin and bullshit.

Except that you can now say fuck!

Not to mention: Shit ,piss and cunt.

AND? Oh yeah, the scary white people will have a worldwide BBQ.



So here you sound like zionists make for more advanced society and infrastructure than Arabs which is obviously not true based on history. However, if you are concerned about having a nicer place why not hire Italian designers and craftsmen and maybe some German, Japanese and maybe some Scandinavian engineers and do it right, rather than relying on some bullshit written hundreds of years ago in racist religious documents like the Talmud and Old Testament?

The MSM and NWO lie about the Iranian dude because he is the one of the ONLY public leaders who questions the underlying premise of the NWO.

Snouter discredits "anti-Zionists" better than anyone else,though Guido is a close second.

Your opinion, and not everyone else's.

Same to you.

There are some who believe that Zionist Jews are the real terrorists.

Those people are ignorant,evil, or both.

It's time to remind the Iranian government that statements like that are the reason they are not allowed to nuclear toys.

Agreed.

I think it's time Iran and Syria were removed from the world stage.

I hope that doesn't happen,but the way the world is going ,it may have to.

[Truth Teller]

That doesn't vindicate the people they oppose.

The other way around is just as true.

That is like saying the zionists should go back to Poland, Ukraine, etc., "where they damn well came from!"

Why don't you go back to where your family came from?

Maybe you should have read past the first paragraph and particularly looked at the third paragraph which contains the direct quote from him upon which the article and the thread title are based:



I advise you to retract this allegation of dishonesty on my part. Have a nice day.

I hate to give Alberto the time of day,let alone credit for anythng.

But ,on this one subject,he is right.

And Iran is not an Arab nation.

It is a theocratic dictatorship that brutalizes and subjugates it's own people.

So if Iranians want "Zionist regime", gone, they actually mean all of Israel as a nation and its people but if Israel want to attack and destroy Iran, they mean only the Iranian regime gone and not all of Iran and its people?

Iran is a brutal,theocratic , dictatorship.

Israel is not brtual(they don't even have capital punishment,except for Nazi war criminals) ,it is a secular government ,not theocratic,and it is not a dictaorship.

Life in Israel is much,much closer to life in the city you live in, than life in Tehran is.

That's for fucking sure.

[Cyclone Ranger]

So if Iranians want "Zionist regime", gone, they actually mean all of Israel as a nation and its people but if Israel want to attack and destroy Iran, they mean only the Iranian regime gone and not all of Iran and its people?

Thus, a great new truth was revealed: Iran and Israel are different. Israel wants the Irans to stop enriching uranium, while Iran wants the Israelis dead.

[Guido]

Thus, a great new truth was revealed: Iran and Israel are different. Israel wants the Irans to stop enriching uranium, while Iran wants the Israelis dead.

When are you going to get a damn job, you dumb fucking "invalid"?

Maybe Teller can hook you up at a Denny's somewhere within walking distance of your basement hovel. Among other advantages of working, such as building character, you'd have less time to waste posting really dumb idiotic shit hour after hour, day after day, year after year on DA.

[Šñøü†ê®]

You seem to believe MOSSAD are omnipotent deities wielding God-like powers.

You mean how you zionists perceive Iran!

The Arabs refer to it as the Zionist regime or Zionist entity, because they don't want to legitimate it by referring to as Israel.

I have studied world literature and the Bible and conclude your faith that ancient tribes were called Israel are inconsistent with reality and unlike you, I tell the truth and do not support the concept of suggesting some Polish and Ukrainian folks are from fictitious tribes chosen by a fictitious deity. Why is that a problem for you to understand?

"Zionism" isn't about either religion or "race",it's about legitimate self-defense.

^Paranoid nutcase alert!

Why don't you go back to where your family came from?

Indonesia and Jersey City are of no particular interest to me.

[Guido]

"Zionism" isn't about either religion or "race",it's about legitimate self-defense.

You're much too stupid to discuss "Zionism," which according to the Walter Mitty "invalid" whose life consists in publishing his outlandish, laughable, self-aggrandizing fantasies on an anonymous Internet forum, doesn't even exist.

Here's a topic you should be able to handle: Does Dennys provide extra fries to Veterans of the War on Terror on Memorial Day weekend?

[Šñøü†ê®]

Now I want blueberry pancakes...

[GanjaFreebird]

\\I tell the truth and do not support the concept of suggesting some Polish and Ukrainian folks are from fictitious tribes chosen by a fictitious deity.

Snouter, meh Hebrew, of course the goyim, including Polish and Ukrainian people, come from real tribes, however, you're right about the fact that God made the Jewish people his chosen ones!

[GanjaFreebird]

Now I want blueberry pancakes...

Of course you do, this is exactly why you look like Chris Farley with long hair and a big nose!

[Guido]

The truth of the matter is that Zionism cannot exist without constant, unrelenting, ever growing "existential threats," because what is Zionism if not the self-defense of a particular "people" -- largely fabricated from spurious and mostly discredited misrepresentations of a mythological history -- againt existential threats? Where would Zionism be without these threats of "annihilation"?

Answer: Nowhere. And since Israel is the Zionist State, Israel itself would lose its raison d'etre. This explains why Israel must constantly engage in military aggression to defeat these largely concocted "threats" -- while getting rich at the same time. (Rampant paranoia is very lucrative to the purveyers of fear, esp. the government.)

But there is another virtue associated with existential threats to Isreal because those threats, if and when they become real, will become the ONLY POSSIBLE path to peace, meaning a just solution to the Israel/Palestine conflict. Why do I say that?

Because we now know, beyond any shadow of doubt, that "negotiations" are dead, that they never really served any purpose other than to provide cover for further Israeli expansionism via "settlement building." The US-sponsored "peace process" was cover for an annexation process that is designed to destroy forever the two-state solution, making peace impossible.

Therefore, negotiations are not and never have been a realistic route to the two-state solution -- which Israel will never, ever allow under any circumstances characterized as "voluntarily."

No, the Palestinians will have a state when Israel is FORCED to stop stealing and occupying the land on which the new state would be built. And Israel will be forced to end the occupation when the cost of maintaining exceeds its dubious value.

Though Israel will listen only to force, force can speak without actual violence. Perhaps Israel’s enemies will find greater unity and more power: for example, Turkey and Egypt might cooperate not only economically but in the enhancement of their militarily capacities. Or perhaps Hizbollah will prove itself so enduring a threat that Israel, finally, decides it prefers peace to cheap real estate and the joys of trying to bully a defenseless people in oblivion. In these hopes lies the life of the two-state solution; indeed of any solution.

What then might advance the cause of Palestinian independence? The best course is to argue that Middle Eastern countries can expect nothing from Israel until they pose a low-key and restrained but genuine threat to its existence. These nations (including Iran) should feel free to abrogate the nuclear non-proliferation agreements as long as Israel retains its own nuclear arsenal. Only when Israel sees it really cannot persist in defying the world, will the agony of the Palestinians end.

This Iranian guy talking about annihilating Israel is just joining the conversation. Everyone talks about it, the existential threats, Jews being pushed into the Sea, the second holocaust, blah blah blah -- everyone, Israeli politicians, Jewish leftists, rightists, ordinary teenage racists, settlers who can't get a job in Brooklyn, they all talk about it, they never fucking shut up.

I think it's a good thing, a hopeful sign that peace may be more than a chimera.