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    Why the governments hide the truth about shale gas

    Recently I was looking to get some information about the pros and cons of the shale gas for my essay and I found something that, honestly, surprised me. The countries that promote production of shale gas hide from public the facts of how dangerous extraction could be, especially the most popular way – hydraulic fracturing. The presence of pressurized fluid in the ground seriously increases the seismic activity inn the production region. Last year in Blackpool, a seaside town in North West of England, were two earthquakes caused by hydraulic fracturing and of course government couldn't hide it, but they underrated magnitude, reporting about 1.5 and 2.3, which in fact were 3.9 and 4.7 according to independent seismologists. As you already guessed that's a big difference but the authorities advised to continue use of hydraulic fracturing there because such earthquakes won't cause any harm. Hard to believe that, especially after earthquake in Japan ruined Fukushima and caused so much damage. Maybe now consequences of hydraulic fracturing are not so destructive, but what may happen after a few years of using it? It seems to me the method is too dangerous, it's better not to disturb mother-earth.

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    sounds interesting. can you link and/or post some sources; where you got this info from? sounds scary.

    edit: (and its your first post, welcome!)
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    It does sound interesting...
    I hope the poster isn't a bot. It would be nice to have more posts like this one...

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    It is obvious that drilling flucks up the Earth. That is why the challenge for oil consumers is to make friends with the Arab nations that they made enemies with by siding with the zionists. The Earth would be a lot happier and there would be no more war.

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    wow! drilling for gas is about zionists too? that doesnt sound obsessed at all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by the incredible b View Post
    wow! drilling for gas is about zionists too? that doesnt sound obsessed at all!
    It could be that the day Snout STOPS mentioning Zionists in all his posts is the day we'll really have to worry about him.
    Like when an active volcano suddenly goes eerily silent?

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    The OP is Absolute nonsense. Fracking has been done for more than forty years. There is no evidence that it produces increased volcanic activity. In certain regards it would be nice if it did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garyd View Post
    The OP is Absolute nonsense. Fracking has been done for more than forty years. There is no evidence that it produces increased volcanic activity. In certain regards it would be nice if it did.
    I don't know about the volcanic activity thing, but otherwise this is absolutely correct. I work in the region where they are drilling the Marcellus and Utica shales. The first well in the Marcellus was drilled and fracked in 2006, I believe. To my knowledge, there hasn't been a single case where fracking has negatively impacted the surrounding environment in this region.

    ETA: There are over 1000 wells drilled in the Marcellus shale since 2006.

    Even the Dunkard Creek incident has been attributed to mine runoff... ironically, since natural gas exploration could largely replace the far more environmentally destructive nature of coal extraction.

    But in Maryland, the "environmentalists" (quotes, because they're really not environmentalists) have prevented the property owners in the western part of the state from enjoying the fruits of their property (full disclosure - I do NOT own property in Western MD). We hear so much from those down-state "liberal" politicians about caring about the poor. Well, there are poor, unemployed people in W. MD who would greatly benefit from natural gas drilling. But Garrett County is also home to Deep Creek Lake, and those same down-state politicians like to go out there and ride around in their boats in the summer, and ski the slopes in the winter, and they don't want their little playground crowded up with a bunch of industry, heaven-forbid. So they keep the serfs in poverty so that they can maintain their little rural get-away, far from their environmentally degraded and disgusting urban hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffino View Post
    Recently I was looking to get some information about the pros and cons of the shale gas for my essay and I found something that, honestly, surprised me. The countries that promote production of shale gas hide from public the facts of how dangerous extraction could be, especially the most popular way – hydraulic fracturing. The presence of pressurized fluid in the ground seriously increases the seismic activity inn the production region. Last year in Blackpool, a seaside town in North West of England, were two earthquakes caused by hydraulic fracturing and of course government couldn't hide it, but they underrated magnitude, reporting about 1.5 and 2.3, which in fact were 3.9 and 4.7 according to independent seismologists. As you already guessed that's a big difference but the authorities advised to continue use of hydraulic fracturing there because such earthquakes won't cause any harm. Hard to believe that, especially after earthquake in Japan ruined Fukushima and caused so much damage. Maybe now consequences of hydraulic fracturing are not so destructive, but what may happen after a few years of using it? It seems to me the method is too dangerous, it's better not to disturb mother-earth.
    You can't hide a 4.7 earthquake...Especially in England. Also, they are recorded in multiple locations. Only a conspiracy nut would believe England would try to hide the true size


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