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    America's first slaves - not indentured, not injuns, not blacks...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1v6Fr03fp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Going Postal View Post
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1v6Fr03fp

    Where's my reparations! Ize gits mine!
    We currently think humans have existed in the so-called New World for over 25000 years.
    You are arguing that slavery started there roughly 300 years ago? Not your finest moment.

    We know for a fact that many nations practiced slavery pre-contact. And that's just the history we know. We can't see much farther back than 4500 years into the anthropological past of the Americas. That leaves over 20,000 years in which slavery almost certainly existed in one form or another.

    Its especially blighting to see ignorance expressed along with the ugly clowning of racist mimicry. Hold yourself to higher standards man!

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    Slavery sucks, no matter who practiced it and no matter who was enslaved.
    Interestingly slavery existed in the Bible and St Paul called for slaves to be obedient to their masters.
    Its also noteworthy that the Egyptians did not have slavery as we know it.
    The Israelites were actually mercenaries who were forced to give up warfare and work as laborers, the same way that other Egyptians did and because this was considered beneith their dignity, they rebelled. That is why Moses took his people and booked! Along the way, the Israelites looted Egyptian villages and towns to get supplies, which is why the Pharo chased after them.

    It is true that whites and Indians were also slaves. In fact, Cromwell sent Irish Catholic women to the colonies as slaves. Many of them were forcably settled in the Carolinas.

    The real reason why black slavery is so incidious is because they became the primary slaves in the colonies and by the time of the Revolution, they were the only people enslaved as a group. This is why laws were enacted in colonial times forbidding whites and blacks from marrying or even having intimate relations.

    In the Virginia Colonies, Bacon's Rebellion saw white settlers and black slaves joining together to fight the colonial authorities. This rebellion was a sordid affair which involved the rebel militias fighting and killing the indian tribes of the area. But when they marched on Williamsburg, the capital, the authorities becamse heavy handed and ruthlessly surpressed the rebellion. As Howard Zinn expains in The People's History of The United States, in the Chapter entitled "Persons of Mean and Vile Disposition" the most disturbing aspect of the rebellion from the authoritie's point of view was the fact that both blacks and whites would cooperate in an activity against the government. As disturbing as this chapter was, it was the first rebellion in the American Colonies.
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    Slaves are the first labor saving device. Especially when it comes to tasks that the slave owner would rather not do himself.
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    Native americans were the first slaves ...to a dominant tribe. Organized and codified, as the spoils of war. Google "Aztec slaves" or mesoamerican war captives. Sure, many were used as sacrifices rather than organized as permanent labor. But they were considered slaves.
    Pretty much every slave-owning culture practiced first upon their own race, white European/Asians certainly included. It was only later that other races were involved, to provide the false front of higher civilization (at least within one's own culture), and status of importing another "good". It is regrettable that most slavery was not ended by the slaves killing the owner and taking over the property, but that would have been nearly impossible with such widespread, legal enforcement of slavery of the time. Currently, the slave of choice is the pimped woman, kidnapped and sold to wealthy plutocrats in the developing world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cd. View Post
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    Indeed Irish were slaves AND systematically discriminated against! I am 1/4 Irish!

    WHERE DA MONEY, DA SPECIAL LAWS TO PROTECT MEH, SOME MEMORIALS IN EVERY MAJOR CITY, SPECIAL DAYS TO REMIND EVERYONE HOW SPECIAL BEING SPECIAL IS, MAYBE EVEN A SPECIAL COUNTRY WHERE I CAN HIDE IF I GET CAUGHT DOING SOMETHING NASTY IN BRAZIL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Šñøü†ê® View Post
    Indeed Irish were slaves AND systematically discriminated against! I am 1/4 Irish!
    Irish Jews don't count.

    WHERE DA MONEY, DA SPECIAL LAWS TO PROTECT MEH, SOME MEMORIALS IN EVERY MAJOR CITY, SPECIAL DAYS TO REMIND EVERYONE HOW SPECIAL BEING SPECIAL IS, MAYBE EVEN A SPECIAL COUNTRY WHERE I CAN HIDE IF I GET CAUGHT DOING SOMETHING NASTY IN BRAZIL!

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    There is likely no human being on this planet who does not find at some point among his antecedents both a slave and a slave owner.
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