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    Quote Originally Posted by fat mike View Post
    the usa fought the nazis during wwii
    World War II was quite possibly one of the most talked about and globally encompassing conflicts in human history and as such many of the belligerents believed they lay rights to who “had it worse” and conversely who were the supreme victors at the end of the war. These seem like easy enough conclusions to make but as with most subjects that history covers the participants and their rolls must be scrutinized and must often be seen subjectively depending on who is making the claim. Of course, these views and opinions do not speak for every Soviet, Englishmen, or American. The important question posed is: did the United States of America really play that big of a role in World War II as the media and our own American text books would lead us to believe?

    For many Americans it is almost second nature to be born and bred to be patriotic and as such they are inundated with films, television shows and other forms of media that ingrain into each citizen that they are Americans and their superiority is second to none. Of course, many of these forms of media with film in particular, tend to portray the American fighting forces as the sole bearers of the wartime atrocities of World War II with very little shown of the actual statistical facts that proved that its Allies, Great Britain and the USSR fared much worse. This superiority stems from the earliest victories against the British Empire and the subsequent freedom from the colonization the British Crown had once held.

    The statistical data proves that both the Soviet Union and Great Britain suffered far greater human combat losses than did the Americans. The Soviets incurred the greatest loss of human life and The Red Army suffered as many combat deaths in the Battle of Stalingrad as the Americans suffered the entire war because 291,557 Americans died in combat and for every American to die in World War II…fifty-three Russians had died.

    Another important fact that is commonly overlooked is that the United States suffered virtually zero damage to its native soil or infrastructure. This was an important factor in America’s rise to super power status as the US sustained no damage to its industrial power and was able to continually and consistently produce war equipment and materials even at the height of the war. This led to Britain becoming financially indebted to the United States which only added to the growth of the United States’ swelling economy. The point could be made that the United States profited handsomely from World War Two at the expense of its closest ally, Great Britain.

    After the fall of France, Great Britain stood alone in the struggle against Hitler’s Germany. This furthers the proof in the argument that the United States entered the war only after a substantial amount of time had passed but yet when the war ended the U.S. acted as if it had been a major player since the beginning. The outcome of the war by Americans was viewed as a selfish victory but egregiously downplayed or ignored the roles of their allies.

    The media influence coupled with an ingrained sense of bravado would have most Americans feeling that the United States swept in from the onset of World War II and saved the day. Although this a nice story that is probably told by grandfathers and great grandfathers by the fire when telling their grandkids what happened during the Great War of the 40’s, the real truth is that yes, the United States lost a great number of American hero’s, but the embellishment of those statistics is a bit over inflated when compared to the loss of life incurred by the other Allied forces.
    "Punishment is now unfashionable... because it creates moral distinctions among men, which, to the democratic mind, are odious. We prefer a meaningless collective guilt to a meaningful individual responsibility." - Thomas Szasz


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    Not quite. Russia did have alot to do with the outcome of ww11,german armies were weakened by the russians and their cold winters german soldiers were not use to.

    Far as the brits go,they did practically nothing to stop hitler,they were in fact allied with him for awhile as was most european leaders.

    We took advantage of the war and some say secretly joined in with hitler prescot bush was said to be really close to him. So were the muslims who also helped him win many wars.

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