Finally An Honest Leftist Speaks

[Archaix]

Liberals can have the electric cars, and pedal the bicycles, and feel real good about themselves. (By the way, what produces electricity?)

A good question, and one people don't often consider. However, since there aren't many oil-burning plants anymore it doesn't conflict with oil dependency.

I really can't get past the use of the words "honest leftist!" To me, that's an ultimate example of an oxymoron.

Because you're a bigot?

[big steve]

Tell me the truth Big Steve...you had to google "oxymoron" before posting....amirite?

Wrong again, but it's sad that you likely will not admit it. I always try to tell the truth. You might try it sometime.

[big steve]

A good question, and one people don't often consider. However, since there aren't many oil-burning plants anymore it doesn't conflict with oil dependency.


Because you're a bigot?

How about coal? I'm likely the most un-bigoted person around here.

[Archaix]

Cars don't run on coal. Also, saying that people you politically differ from are all liars is bigotry.

[Freedom&Liberty]

Of course it would be WAY beyond you to question your self-righteous sense of independence. The automobile has only been available to the masses for a century - and you feel that somehow without it, your selfish sense of individuality would be destroyed? Was the world somehow devoid of individuals before the automobile? But I don't mean to overheat your brain with these considerations... just think about it in little spurts. Hopefully you'll realise living without a car isn't giving into the Borg hive in time for us to avoid catastrophic climate change.

Awwww..... look at you getting all bitchy because of the futility of your liberal nonsense. No matter how much you want them to, cars and oil aren't going anywhere, anytime soon. Cars provide tens of millions the independence to live and work outside of metropolitan areas. People will fight back if that independence is threatened. If it makes you feel better, live in the city and ride the train or a bicycle. But don't think for a minute that climate change is anything more than media hype propagated by politicized science and a lack of meteorology jobs. It's certainly not understood well enough to justify the devastation of economies or restrict the use of oil. Now, hurry up and post som dramatic picture of Chinese smokestacks or a video of yet another climate science clown explaining how the ocean will rise 2 feet THIS year due to melting polar ice.

You see its not a matter of what imagery appeals most: human misery or melting glaciers... that's you unable to think beyond the market paradigm... again. Its a question of recognising that what people want, and what people need, though ideally coincidental, is not always one and the same thing. I don't care what appeals more between those two images: one or two generation of 'suffering humans' simply doesn't compete when facing a ruined, biologically impoverished planet for countless generations to come.

It's a matter of perception. Liberals continually scream that the sky is falling, but everytime people look up they still see the sky. The birds are chirping and when they turn on their faucets, clean water comes out. They walk into their yards, can breathe deeply, everything is green and looks just like it has for a thousand years before cars came along. What people want is to be left alone, what they need is for liberals to STFU.

By the way, if you consider the 'suffering of sick, old, broke grandmothers', you'll need to recall that in the scheme of things, they are still more privileged than the vast majority of humans on this planet. But you are so self-righteously attached to the extreme privilege of living in the US that you feel it is meaningful to harp about their plight in the face of a much larger, truly global threat.

M

Ooooooooooo, ...... impending doom. We've only been hearing about that larger global threat since oil became popular. Next you'll be telling me that Jesus is coming ....... someday.........soon. Believe it or not, grandma and the planet will survive without your help. Thanks anyway. Just live YOUR life the best way you know how and keep your global climate beliefs to yourself. Your religion smells just as bad as all the others.

[Chachma v'Oz]

AIt's a matter of perception. Liberals continually scream that the sky is falling, but everytime people look up they still see the sky. The birds are chirping and when they turn on their faucets, clean water comes out.

Goodness. Is it time to post "A Day in the Life of Joe Conservative" again, so soon?

[Freedom&Liberty]

It's also "A Day in the Life of Joe Liberal". It's unfortunate that idiots often require reminders.

[Malcolm Wright]

Awwww..... look at you getting all bitchy because of the futility of your liberal nonsense. No matter how much you want them to, cars and oil aren't going anywhere, anytime soon. Cars provide tens of millions the independence to live and work outside of metropolitan areas. People will fight back if that independence is threatened. If it makes you feel better, live in the city and ride the train or a bicycle. But don't think for a minute that climate change is anything more than media hype propagated by politicized science and a lack of meteorology jobs. It's certainly not understood well enough to justify the devastation of economies or restrict the use of oil. Now, hurry up and post som dramatic picture of Chinese smokestacks or a video of yet another climate science clown explaining how the ocean will rise 2 feet THIS year due to melting polar ice.

It's a matter of perception. Liberals continually scream that the sky is falling, but everytime people look up they still see the sky. The birds are chirping and when they turn on their faucets, clean water comes out. They walk into their yards, can breathe deeply, everything is green and looks just like it has for a thousand years before cars came along. What people want is to be left alone, what they need is for liberals to STFU.

Ooooooooooo, ...... impending doom. We've only been hearing about that larger global threat since oil became popular. Next you'll be telling me that Jesus is coming ....... someday.........soon. Believe it or not, grandma and the planet will survive without your help. Thanks anyway. Just live YOUR life the best way you know how and keep your global climate beliefs to yourself. Your religion smells just as bad as all the others.

Can you name another time since oil became popular, when there was an even vaguely comparable scientific consensus about the threat as there is today?

If not, your entire post is worthless. Just you engaged in wishful thinking again - the pattern is pretty consistent.

M.

[Freedom&Liberty]

Consensus is not and has never been science. Get used to the fact that you spew nonsense. The rest of us have.

[optimus]

Goodness. Is it time to post "A Day in the Life of Joe Conservative" again, so soon?

Please do. It's great.

[Chachma v'Oz]

It's also "A Day in the Life of Joe Liberal". It's unfortunate that idiots often require reminders.

Yet you keep begging for a reminder. "A Day in the Life of Joe Liberal" is no different than its counterpart, except that liberals can take credit for it, on everyone's behalf.

[Chachma v'Oz]

Please do. It's great.

Here's a typical conservative's train of thought as seen through the eye's of Joe Conservative:

Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards.

With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.

All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.

He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.

He walks on the government-provided sidewalk to subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a conributor.

Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards.

Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

At noon time and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression. Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime. Joe also pays to his federally subsidized student loans,from the a state funded university he arrended.

Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards to go along with the tax-payer funded roads. He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification. He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved conservatives have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day.

Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of himself, just like I have."

[DamnYankee]

Good. Oil and gas companies are ruining the world through environmental damage and corruption. The EPA should, rhetorically speaking, 'crucify' them for it -that's what you pay them for, you fools. BP, Exxonmobil, Halliburton should be top of the list.

Then stop using gas and oil. You come across as a spoiled leftist hypocrite. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[Freedom&Liberty]

A Day in the Life of Joe Liberal

Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. He can only afford to drink four ounces a day because his tree-hugging governor raised the sales tax for the fifth time in four years to pay for gov't run Daycare, the Playboy channel for incarcerated sex-offenders, free needle-exchange programs, social services for illegal aliens, and condom-vending machines in preschool.

But he savors every drop, for next year he'll only be permitted to buy decaffeinated coffee because FDA testing found that force-feeding lab rats 20 gallons of coffee per day raised their cancer rate by .0003% per thousand.

With his first swallow of water, he rations his daily intake of medication. He can't afford all his meds because some stupid commie liberal ambulance-chaser drove pharmaceutical costs through the roof with frivolous law suits.

His meds are subsidized by his employer's medical plan because some liberal closed shop union workers fought their employers in order to garnish employee wages so that Joe would labor under the illusion that someone else is picking up the tab when in fact his employer is reaching into Joes own back pocket.

He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joes bacon is unsafe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for limited liability laws so that if anyone dies of food poisoning, the meat packing industry will pay a fine and pass the cost on to the customer.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient because some crybaby liberal thought that he was too stupid to know that imbibing a pint of shampoo might be harmful to his health.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. Joe begins to cough, choke, and gasp for breath because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for passage of the Kyoto treaty, allowing Third World countries to contaminate the world air supply with carbon monoxide.

Joe doesn't dare go out at night because some environmentalist wacko liberal lawmaker forbade the spraying or draining of malarial swamps.

Joe lost his first home to wildfire because some environmentalist wacko liberal lawmaker forbade the thinning old growth forest land.

His dad used to take the train to work. But when the Federal highway system destroyed our once-magnificent train system, Joe had to resort to the filthy, crime-ridden subway system because some fancy-pants liberal fought to disarm law-abiding citizens so that street gangs could mug commuters, then cop a plea based on post-traumatic slavery disorder.

Joe begins his work day. Joes dad used to support his family at a middle class lifestyle on a single income. But it now takes two or three incomes to do the work of one because liberal bureaucrats drove up the cost of doing business through over regulation and usurious corporate taxation.

If Joe gets bored with his job, he can fake an injury and collect workman's comp., retiring to the slopes of Aspen to recuperate because some stupid liberal didn't think that employees might try to bilk the system.

It is noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joes deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal thought that financial institutions should be able to defraud their customers and then file for bankruptcy, thereby shielding the pension and severance pay of board members while sticking the taxpayer with the tab.

Joe has to pay his federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided to subsidize college education so that universities, freed from competitive pressure, no longer had to keep tuition costs down.

Joe had the GPA and SAT scores to get into Harvard, but he had to settle for a community college because racial quotas kept him out while admitting inner city students who couldn't read or write, but had mastered multiple techniques of fitting a condom in high school sex-ed.

[Chachma v'Oz]

Yes, parodies are funny.

[big steve]

Cars don't run on coal. Also, saying that people you politically differ from are all liars is bigotry.

How about the fact that coal is used to produce electricity which is used by hybrid or electric cars. I fight fire with fire. I respect other opinions as long as they respect mine. I realize people come from different backgrounds and political biases.

[DamnYankee]

How about the fact that coal is used to produce electricity which is used by hybrid or electric cars. I fight fire with fire. I respect other opinions as long as they respect mine. I realize people come from different backgrounds and political biases.

You won't find very many people out there on the kook leftist fringe that have respect for anything, or anyone. I mean look at the Occupiers.

[Malcolm Wright]

Consensus is not and has never been science. Get used to the fact that you spew nonsense. The rest of us have.

Freedom, I'm, dismayed to have to explain this to you, but the meaning of SCIENTIFIC consensus, is the degree to with SCIENTISTS agree with each other. That's why.... drum roll... it is conveniently referred to as SCIENTIFIC consensus.

Now can you answer the simple question I asked you?

M.

[DamnYankee]

How about the fact that coal is used to produce electricity which is used by hybrid or electric cars.

Like BO said, he wants to bankrupt the coal industry, so electricity produced from coal will come to a stop if BO's marxist policies are allowed to continue.

What fun, our energy "necessarily skyrocketing."

[Cyclone Ranger]

Joe had the GPA and SAT scores to get into Harvard, but he had to settle for a community college because racial quotas kept him out while admitting inner city students who couldn't read or write, but had mastered multiple techniques of fitting a condom in high school sex-ed.

Yes, i'm sure Harvard is just filled with illiterate inner-city youths!