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[DamnYankee]

EPA Official's 'Philosophy' On Oil Companies: 'Crucify Them' - Just As Romans Crucified Conquered Citizens

By Craig Bannister
April 25, 2012

http://cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannis...mans-crucified

Region VI Administrator Al Armendariz, admitting that EPA’s “general philosophy” is to “crucify” and “make examples” of oil and gas companies.

I think it's good that some of BO's fellow marxists in his radical regime are finally leveling with the American people. We need more honesty out of these clowns.

Keep up the good work.

[Freedom&Liberty]

We need to drown the EPA in it's own urine.

[DamnYankee]

Armendariz characterizes the left's ideology regarding business and private property rights. The EPA needs to be seriously reined in.

[Archaix]

Good. Oil and gas companies are ruining the world through environmental damage and corruption. The EPA should, rhetorically speaking, 'crucify' them for it -that's what you pay them for, you fools. BP, Exxonmobil, Halliburton should be top of the list.

[Freedom&Liberty]

All it will do is make the price of gas higher. Consumers get crucified, not business.

[Archaix]

Customers are already 'crucified'. If anything a no-bullshit approach from the government will encourage more responsible corporate practices.

[hadit]

It's not the EPA's business to pick targets and try to annhilate them. Just another example of government overreach. SOP.

[Freedom&Liberty]

Customers are already 'crucified'. If anything a no-bullshit approach from the government will encourage more responsible corporate practices.

More responsible practices = more cost. And that cost always gets passed on to consumers. If you don't like the business practices of a company, don't buy their products. Let the free market work and keep the feds out of it.

[302Riz]

everyone depends on 'cheap' fossil fuels. What do you think will happen if the govenrment penalizes these oil companies? What happens when gas and oil becomes so expensive that nobody can afford it? There will be no transportation to deliver food, mail, pretty much all essential services and everything needed for people to live their daily lives. The government has no business sticking it to anyone - because it will screw us.

[DamnYankee]

Good. Oil and gas companies are ruining the world through environmental damage and corruption. The EPA should, rhetorically speaking, 'crucify' them for it -that's what you pay them for, you fools. BP, Exxonmobil, Halliburton should be top of the list.

That's why marxism fails. Nutters like this. A bunch a fuc*ing morons.

[Archaix]

If the "free market" allowed the creation of big oil giants, and 'light touch' environmental regulation failed to make these companies more responsible, exactly how is continuing both of these policies going to work?

[Malcolm Wright]

More responsible practices = more cost. And that cost always gets passed on to consumers. If you don't like the business practices of a company, don't buy their products. Let the free market work and keep the feds out of it.

Sorry but the 'wisdom of the free market' is destroying the environment. Your solution to that problem is to say - let the free market do its thing?

We have to make voluntary steps away from fossil fuels - not wait until they are so expensive that we're forced to do without them.

M.

[Freedom&Liberty]

Sorry but the 'wisdom of the free market' is destroying the environment. Your solution to that problem is to say - let the free market do its thing?

We have to make voluntary steps away from fossil fuels - not wait until they are so expensive that we're forced to do without them.

M.

Government meddling and force is what's destroying the free market. Steps that protect the environment and lower costs will come naturally, if the market is left alone.

Government has been meddling in the environment and business for decades - has the cost of energy gotten any cheaper?

[Malcolm Wright]

Government meddling and force is what's destroying the free market. Steps that protect the environment and lower costs will come naturally, if the market is left alone.

There you go again, just wishing away reality. Can you provide evidence that a completely free market will engender protection for the environment?

Because left to their own devices and without guidance, corporations just want to make as much profit as possible, as quickly as possible. In the real world, that translates into pillaging and polluting the environment. How is that going to change if we don't force government to impose strict rules safeguarding the environment?

Government has been meddling in the environment and business for decades - has the cost of energy gotten any cheaper?

The serious political will to shift to other forms of energy is very recent, and hopefully will grow stronger. So I have no idea why you are speaking of decades. I'm also not so much concerned about the cost of energy as I am about protecting the environment. That MUST take priority.

M

[Going Postal]

There you go again, just wishing away reality. Can you provide evidence that a completely free market will engender protection for the environment?

Because left to their own devices and without guidance, corporations just want to make as much profit as possible, as quickly as possible. In the real world, that translates into pillaging and polluting the environment. How is that going to change if we don't force government to impose strict rules safeguarding the environment?



The serious political will to shift to other forms of energy is very recent, and hopefully will grow stronger. So I have no idea why you are speaking of decades. I'm also not so much concerned about the cost of energy as I am about protecting the environment. That MUST take priority.

M

NIMBY

If the Chinese managers, from the top down, of this place had to work and live there, would it go on? If their kids...well kid...has 4 legs and 3 eyes...

[Archaix]

Government meddling and force is what's destroying the free market. Steps that protect the environment and lower costs will come naturally, if the market is left alone.

I'm sure the residents of Bhopal would agree with you...

[Freedom&Liberty]

There you go again, just wishing away reality. Can you provide evidence that a completely free market will engender protection for the environment?

Because left to their own devices and without guidance, corporations just want to make as much profit as possible, as quickly as possible. In the real world, that translates into pillaging and polluting the environment. How is that going to change if we don't force government to impose strict rules safeguarding the environment?

If you see or hear that a company is polluting the environment, stop buying their products. Consumers have ultimate control. Government force only elevates prices and does little to punish a company. That's reality.

The serious political will to shift to other forms of energy is very recent, and hopefully will grow stronger. So I have no idea why you are speaking of decades. I'm also not so much concerned about the cost of energy as I am about protecting the environment. That MUST take priority.

M

Get real. We've been hearing about peak oil and resources running out since the 70's. Like dozens of dire predictions made by environmentalists since the turn of the last century, none of it has turned out to be accurate. We've been lied to at every turn by the very people who have you convinced that the environment must take priority. Stop being so gullible. You think we have issues paying for poverty now, wait until the costs of energy double or triple due to EPA nonsense.

[hadit]

The serious political will to shift to other forms of energy is very recent, and hopefully will grow stronger. So I have no idea why you are speaking of decades. I'm also not so much concerned about the cost of energy as I am about protecting the environment. That MUST take priority.

That's fine, but as usual, at what cost? The US already has one of the cleanest environments in the developed world. When do we reach the point of diminishing returns, when the cost of complying with new, more stringent regulations exceeds the increased cleanliness of the environment? Do we not realize that our reluctance on environmental grounds to utilize the energy under our control simply shifts the environmental impact to other countries with fewer controls and less safe technology? I would think we would want underground resources extracted and used in the safest manner possible, and that's us. Coincidentally, we need to push forward on alternatives, certainly. We can chew gum and walk at the same time.

[soylentgreen]

The lack of connection with reality is what really astounds me about liberals. They want cheap food and fuel and free healthcare...but they don't want any pollution or fossil fuels. They want unlimited sources of energy, but they don't want nuclear power.

[Archaix]

If you see or hear that a company is polluting the environment, stop buying their products. Consumers have ultimate control.

No they don't, and they're certainly not aware of the portfolio of the company they're buying from on a day-to-day basis. They're more motivated by what's convenient and cheap rather than what the company did to make it cheap -like Apple and Foxxcon.

Get real. We've been hearing about peak oil and resources running out since the 70's. Like dozens of dire predictions made by environmentalists since the turn of the last century, none of it has turned out to be accurate.

Partly true. New sources of oil might be found in the future. Those deposits could make oil dependency feasible for another half a century -who knows? Why not invest in alternatives while we can?

That's fine, but as usual, at what cost? The US already has one of the cleanest environments in the developed world. When do we reach the point of diminishing returns, when the cost of complying with new, more stringent regulations exceeds the increased cleanliness of the environment?

A lie. The USA ranks #61 on the Environmental Performance Index, behind Sweden (#4), France (#7), the U.K. (#14), Germany (#17), Italy (#18), Japan (#20), Spain (#25) and Canada (#46).

Hey, such global titans as fucking Hungary (#33) do a better job looking after the environment than you do.