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    Quote Originally Posted by BooRadley View Post
    I think guns and abortions suffer the same effect, for the same reason. There really are a lot of people who really do want to ban firearm ownership, but, knowing they can't do it in one fell-swoop, they want to move in increments. As such, any gun control law is just a step in a path to complete disarmament for those people. Same reason you can't say you think it's okay to ban partial-birth abortion: People see it as part of a greater plan (because, in the grander scheme, it probably is).
    Those folks make two monumental mistakes.

    The first is to imagine that people care about complete disarmament as much as they care about being able to own any firearm they want. We simply don't. Its not possible. They're obsessed. We tend not to be. That's one strike against their slippery slope fears.

    Second mistake is that slippery slope arguments are stoopuids. Each measure needs to be argued and either adopted or rejected on its own merits, not because someone fears it will grease away all reason in subsequent evaluation of other measures, all inexorably towards their doom. I mean maybe those folks should wear tinfoil hats so we don't make the mistake of trying to take them seriously?

    I think the utopia of a society without guns is a nice thought, but its not going to happen. I really can't be mistaken for some sort of conniving arch-nemesis with the will and power to dispatch is on the fast track to gun confiscation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BooRadley View Post
    I think guns and abortions suffer the same effect, for the same reason. There really are a lot of people who really do want to ban firearm ownership, but, knowing they can't do it in one fell-swoop, they want to move in increments. As such, any gun control law is just a step in a path to complete disarmament for those people. Same reason you can't say you think it's okay to ban partial-birth abortion: People see it as part of a greater plan (because, in the grander scheme, it probably is).
    100% agreement.
    It is difficult for any decent person to sit back and not comment on the anti-Semitism,racism ,sexism ,and all-around ignorance espoused on the majority of DA's posts,it's fucking sad when one gets a warning for simply being a decent person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Going Postal View Post
    Why is that when NY and Cali (both blue states) has the largest number of students, which equals the largest amount of textbooks that will be bought? Texas, along with all the small states, would have to buy what they wanted.

    Please tell me why NY and Cali doesnt have the influence that you think Texas has. Why don't they gang up on big bad Texas?

    Not once did the story say why Texas has this influence to change what Johnny read in RI or California; although it did imply it (like I said the MSM said it and you didn't think critically and believed it; the MSM stirring up shit).
    Texas has long been a state that should be forced to submit EVERYTHING they do to federal authorities for approval. Texas is INCAPABLE of governing themselves legally and fairly. This is due to excessive republicanazi bible-thumper interference in the government of Texas.

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    ^Psychotic zionist clown in da house alert!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Texas has long been a state that should be forced to submit EVERYTHING they do to federal authorities for approval. Texas is INCAPABLE of governing themselves legally and fairly. This is due to excessive republicanazi bible-thumper interference in the government of Texas.
    It must really put sand in your helmet that you cannot control the actions of people who don't live anywhere near you.
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    Does anyone still think that Coulter is still relevent?

    You cannot compare the Republican Party 100 years ago with what it became today.
    Does anyone think that Theodore Roosevelt would have anything to do with the psychopaths running the party today?

    As for the Democrats, they were once dominated by racists. But they later told the southern racist to fuck off and now the party has become the party of all people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cd. View Post
    Does anyone still think that Coulter is still relevent?

    You cannot compare the Republican Party 100 years ago with what it became today.
    Does anyone think that Theodore Roosevelt would have anything to do with the psychopaths running the party today?

    As for the Democrats, they were once dominated by racists. But they later told the southern racist to fuck off and now the party has become the party of all people.
    The only relevance of Coulter is that people want to believe her so they do believe her.

    The Southern Democrats, aka Dixiecrats of yesteryear are now Republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Texas has long been a state that should be forced to submit EVERYTHING they do to federal authorities for approval. Texas is INCAPABLE of governing themselves legally and fairly. This is due to excessive republicanazi bible-thumper interference in the government of Texas.
    I say that Texas be given back to Mexico. Hell, there are parts of the state where only Spanish is spoken. And maybe if we get rid of Texas we will not have to deal with their asshole politicians comming to Washington and fucking things up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cd. View Post
    I say that Texas be given back to Mexico. Hell, there are parts of the state where only Spanish is spoken. And maybe if we get rid of Texas we will not have to deal with their asshole politicians comming to Washington and fucking things up.
    One of the most eloquent speakers of our time. . . well, maybe not OUR time now but previously, was Barbara Jordan, a black lady from Texas. She was a member of the House of Representatives and her speeches could make a grown man cry with their beauty.

    I'm not sure there are any more like her in the Loon Star State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cd. View Post
    As for the Democrats, they were once dominated by racists. But they later told the southern racist to fuck off and now the party has become the party of all people.
    Oh, brother, I think the fumes have finally done their work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cd. View Post
    Does anyone still think that Coulter is still relevent?

    You cannot compare the Republican Party 100 years ago with what it became today.
    Does anyone think that Theodore Roosevelt would have anything to do with the psychopaths running the party today?

    As for the Democrats, they were once dominated by racists. But they later told the southern racist to fuck off and now the party has become the party of all people.
    In an atmosphere of* Yellow Press warmongering by the Hearst and Pultizer press, the USS Maine is strangely ordered to sail into Cuba’s Havana Harbor in January of 1898. Three weeks later, she conveniently explodes and swiftly sinks, killing 261 US sailors. The warmongers and Yellow Press are quick to blame the attack on a planted Spanish mine. They demand war against Spain.
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    Spain denies any involvement and President McKinley remains calm.* (Years later, even the US government will acknowledge that Spain was wrongly accused, stating that the explosion was “an accident.”)

    .
    The recently appointed Assistant Secretary of the Navy is an up and coming Globalist warmonger named Teddy Roosevelt (TR).*It was TR who, behind his boss's back, ordered The Maine to sail to Havana in order to set up this*“false flag” operation.
    When the pressure from Congressional warmongers and the Yellow Press becomes too intense for McKinley to resist, the US declares war with Spain in April of ‘98. The rallying cry of the*foolish warmongers is “Remember The Maine and to hell with Spain!”
    The war with Spain is brief and one sided, but the US will still lose 3000 troops. By defeating Spain in both Cuba and in the Pacific, the US gains control over Guam and The Philippines. The lopsided defeat deals a severe psychological blow to Spain and undermines its monarchy. It also marks the beginning of America’s gradual conversion from a peaceful constitutional republic, to a violent global bully.
    The war also has the effect of launching Teddy Roosevelt into the national spotlight. As soon as*war begins, TR resigns his position as Assistant Navy Secretary and joins a cavalry unit dubbed as the “The Rough Riders.”* The Pulitzer and Hearst press wildly exaggerate TR’s**“heroic charge on horseback" at the "decisive" Battle of San Juan Hill. In reality, TR, who was not even the actual commander of the unit,**merely took part in**** a minor skirmish in which the Americans* -fighting on foot-*outnumbered the Spaniards by 15-1!*

    TR refers to the war of 1898 as “a splendid little war”.* It is now clear that this insane warmonger, who had pushed hard for war with Spain, and engineered the sinking of The Maine, is*being groomed for bigger and better things.

    After the onset of a strange illness, Vice President Garret Hobart dies of*heart failure at the age of 55. Like his good friend and boss President McKinley, Hobart is a genuine constitutional conservative. His*untimely death conveniently creates an opening for the Progressive-Globalist faction that has infiltrated the Republican Party.
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    While effectively running the US Navy, Teddy Roosevelt’s role in the false-flag destruction of the USS Maine positioned him for rapid 3-step career advancement:***
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    Step 1: TR's military record is grossly exaggerated by the Yellow Press (the mythical charge up San Juan Hill).*
    Step 2: The "War Hero" is then catapulted into the Governorship of New York in 1899.*
    Step 3: When Vice President*Hobart dies unexpectedly (poisoned), the Globalist-Zionist wing of the Republican Party forces “the war hero” upon a reluctant* McKinley.*
    The Globalists are now “just one heartbeat away” from getting their first puppet installed in the White House. Was*Hobart poisoned to pave the way for the Globalist TR’s stunning ascendancy? Subsequent events suggest that Hobart’s*oddly convenient death was part of a plan.

    *Republican President McKinley is a staunch advocate of "hard money" (Gold Standard) and limited constitutional government. McKinley is re-elected in 1900. Less than one year later, a foreign born Red terrorist named Leon Czolgosz*shoots McKinley in Buffalo, NY.*Czolgosz is a follower of the Jewish Red Emma Goldman, who*openly praises Czolgosz's evil deed!
    .
    McKinley recovers briefly, and then turns for the worse, finally dying on September 14. His death launches the Globalist puppet Teddy Roosevelt into office, completing TR's amazing ascent from obscurity to the White House in just two years! The convenient murder of McKinley marks the beginning of "The Progressive Era" in which the Federal government will expand its power and foreign involvement.

    Czolgosz is executed on October 29.

    Teddy Roosevelt (TR) was catapulted into office by the sudden deaths of a constitutionalist US Vice President (Hobart), and then a constitutionalist US President (McKinley).* TR’s time in office is marked by a radical shift in American style of limited government and non-interventionist foreign policy. His record includes:
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    Personally intervening in the 1902 Coal strike to the advantage of the striking miners
    Encouraging a revolt in Columbia when the Columbians asked for too much money for land* needed to build the Panama Canal
    Sending “The Great White Fleet” to sail around the world as a show of intimidation
    Confiscating land for the Federal Government
    Expanding the size and scope of the Federal Government.
    Negotiating an end to the Russo-Japanese War,* favorable to Japan, and disadvantageous to Rothschild's hated Russian enemy
    TR is a blustering treasonous fool with deep insecurities stemming from his days as a sickly and athsmatic house-bound child.*He*"proves his manhood" by talking brash, warmongering, bullying his political rivals,*and killing African elephants.*
    I Pledge Resistance, to the Nazi Flag, of the United Police States of America, and to the Private Federal Reserves for which it stands. One Corporation, under Goldman Sachs, unaccountable, with poverty and slavery for all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Going Postal View Post
    In an atmosphere of* Yellow Press warmongering by ... a sickly and athsmatic house-bound child.*He*"proves his manhood" by talking brash, warmongering, bullying his political rivals,*and killing African elephants.*
    Erm...

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    Bump, for Hadit who apparently forgot to say something in Coulter's defense.

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    I started reading it... got past right to bear arms, hit the race point and gave up... I am so not understanding US gun laws I'm afraid, not saying they're wrong, saying don't understand, in Aus you don't have the "right" you earn the privilage.... and you loose that privilage FAST with an abuse of it, but it has nothing to do with race....

    *leaves more puzzled than she came *
    (and yes, I am a gun owner)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratbag View Post
    I started reading it... got past right to bear arms, hit the race point and gave up... I am so not understanding US gun laws I'm afraid, not saying they're wrong, saying don't understand, in Aus you don't have the "right" you earn the privilage.... and you loose that privilage FAST with an abuse of it, but it has nothing to do with race....

    *leaves more puzzled than she came *
    (and yes, I am a gun owner)
    Our founding fathers felt that it was important for the citizens to have the right to have guns. Our constitution is a bit muddled on this, it says "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." That has been interpreted in various ways throughout the years but die hard gun rights advocates feel it's cut and dried, that citizens should have the right to own a gun, type not withstanding.

    This right has been infringed in many ways many times. We do not have the right to own an automatic weapon, we do not have the right to own cannons, we do not have the right to carry a gun concealed unless with a permit.

    Point being, Ms. Ratbag, if we, the American people and our courts aren't firm on what this means then you shouldn't feel bad if you don't understand it. This is the most questioned and argued over portion of our constitution. Well, it's the 2nd Amendment, our first has to do with religion and it may be argued even more.
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    Thankyou very much a more concise explaination I could not ask for... it's a complicated issue for certain. I as someone who requires a weapon, and does not enjoy the killing of any living thing, but knows it is at times a required part of my life, am personally glad that our laws make it so that I ONLY need to consider my weapon as a tool and not as a means of defense, I really don't think I could handle that, it seems to be a very vicious circle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcolm Wright View Post
    Bump, for Hadit who apparently forgot to say something in Coulter's defense.

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    I don't have to defend her. You don't like what she writes, that's fine and dandy. She does, however, provoke thought if someone is willing to consider the broader implications of what she is saying. In this particular case, the harder authorities try to proclaim certain areas "gun-free", and the harder they try to remove guns from the public sphere, the easier time criminals have. You don't like her way of skewering democrats and liberals (but I repeat myself), but what she brings up is worthy of thought. Michael Moore says some really stupid stuff, like how wonderful healthcare is in Cuba, but it's worth thinking about and discussing the various pros and cons of full-blown government run healthcare vs. slightly less government run healthcare.

    Now, does that satisfy your need for further discussion on Ann Coulter? It will be interesting to see if the nutty American left wing can restrain themselves from attacking her looks again since she's been brought to the front again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratbag View Post
    Thankyou very much a more concise explaination I could not ask for... it's a complicated issue for certain. I as someone who requires a weapon, and does not enjoy the killing of any living thing, but knows it is at times a required part of my life, am personally glad that our laws make it so that I ONLY need to consider my weapon as a tool and not as a means of defense, I really don't think I could handle that, it seems to be a very vicious circle
    How's this for crazy? If I'm a licensed gun dealer in the U.S. and you want to buy a firearm from me I have to take information from you and submit it so that you're investigated to make certain you are legally eligible to own a gun. After that investigation and waiting period I can then sell you the gun. However, if I'm a gun collector at a gun show but not a licensed gun dealer (some collectors collect hundreds of guns and buy and sell them right and left) then I can sell you whatever you want as long as it's a legal firearm, no questions asked and the only delay is how quickly I can take your money.

    Every nation has screwed up laws but our gun laws change by municipality in some instances and certainly by state. In some states it's legal to carry concealed with a permit and those permits are rather easy to get. In other areas it's very difficult to get a permit to own a gun much less carry it concealed.

    May I ask, what is it that you need a gun for? And no, I have no problem with your gun ownership, I'm just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaix View Post
    I hope Democrats do want to deprive black people of gun rights. And every other race as well. In fact, I hope they want to centralise the use of force so that America can actually be a proper country and not an endless loop of Taxi Driver.
    You just advocated a fascist police state. I guess once you already live in a proper police state like the UK then that makes sense.

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    Nothing like a gun debate to bring the left wing whack jobs out.

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