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    Religion Without Side Effects

    The book GOD v. GODS by H.JOSEPH published by LULU maintains that if we really want to solve the terrible religious conflicts leading to outrageous barbaric acts and the explotation of Man in the name of religion our aim should be to free religion from the wicked people, the charlatans, who have highjacked it. Thus we will be able to turn it into a positive force instead of the destructive present one. This book shows step by step how to achieve this aim.

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    I thought you already started a thread by that name?

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    Hi i did. I am new to this site and am unsure how to continue the thread. If I want to add to original thread how to I go about it. Thanks

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    Click on your name then select "view forum posts."

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    Hi tried that do not seem to be able to find "view forum posts." Is it a problem if I keep starting a new thread. When I go to view threads my 2 threads are there. Or can I just go on to the thread and click reply and add to the original as I have quite a few threads to write on this subject. Thanks

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    Commenting on the influence religion has had on Mankind throughout the ages H.JOSEPH, the writer of GOD v. GODS, published by LULU, maintains that in addition to the existing social and geographical divisions in society it divides and redivedes the divided. It alienates and sets people of the same background, of the same family living under the same roof and even people of the same religion at each other because their religous beliefs or their interpretation of the same religion differs. At present there are 39 Christian denominations. Even Jews, who are a fraction of the Christian population worldwide, probably have no fewer divisions and perhaps more if we take into account the various Hasidic courts which are very often at each other`s throats.

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    FYI - Lulu is a self publishing web site. So GOD vs GODS is self-published on LULU.

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    First of all the book GOD v. GODS by H.JOSEPH published by LULU unearths the reasons for the failure of the present system. Remarking on the troubles that religion has been causing Mankind, as it is practised at present, the writer claims that our religious woes are rooted in the Bible. Therefore there is where we should begin in order to trace the origins of our problems.

    The above book does this on two levels. First he questions the divinity/authensity of the Bile and then examines the results of some of its teachings.

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    The book GOD v GODS by H.JOSEPH published by LULU maintains that perhaps it is the most firmly established belief that the Bible is the foundation of our civilization. The mere fact that 99% of the people adhering to this axiom have never read the Bible themselves sustains this blind belief. Their knowledge of the Bible comes to them second hand. That is to say it is brought to them by the "nice men" who have vested interests in the way it is interpreted.

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    Posts in the lounge don't add to your postcount, try posting in big debates.

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    The book under discussion GOD v. GODS by H.JOSEPH published by LULU, questions the above premise. This treatise ably proves that when we read the Bible in the context of its period we realise that it hardly contains any original stories or laws. It says that the Bible took the existing folk stories of the time and gave them a new twist in line with the intersts of the clergy. Accordingly disasters happen not because of natural causes or any other reasons but because of Man`s sins. Affairs would be put right if people submit their whole life, body and soul, to the control of the clergy. Follow their instuctions to the letter and do exactly as they are told by the clerics.

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    After establishing that the Biblical stories are not original the book by H.JOSEPH. GOD v. GODS. published by LULU, examines the laws and finds out that it is a historical fact that the Commandments existed long before Moses. That being the case the theatricals too of thundering and lightning while receiving them are out. The Biblical laws were not the result of a single or multiple revelations but a long process lasting thousands of years of evolution. Therefore whatever is good in the Biblical laws would have reached us without its help.

    The next question that the writer asks is whether the Bible has been beneficial or harmful to Mankind. Here again the answer is on the negative side. Nevertheless all is not lost as the writer maintains that the Bible can still play a positive role in our society as he explains in the final chapter of the book.

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    Why do you keep mentioning the publisher? Who gives a fuck?

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    According to the book GOD V GODS by H.JOSEPH, published by LULU, unlike the commandments the Bible is definately wholly responsible for the idea of the one God spreading. Although borrowed from Egypyian sources, where it was first tried and rejected, the Bible resurected and turned it into its focal point. This was the first step to disaster for Mankind.

    The idea of one God is very problematic in the sense that it is akin to being ruled by a despot with the result that any deviation from his so called edicts cannot be tolerated.

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    Juarez - are you a blasphemite?

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    Commenting on the idea of one GOD the book GOD v GODS by H.JOSEPH claims that like any other creed the one God, being an absent entity, through his representatives, charlatons more likely, who commit any atrocity they want and justify it with the excuse as though they are acting on his behalf. They allow themselves to dictate any laws that can keep them in power and enable them to live in luxury. Above all they have the security that their rule can never be challenged. The Children of Israel were hardly introduced to the one God when the first massacre in his name occured. As the writer makes it clear time and again most probably no such barbarity has ever happened but the mere mention of it has set the tone for future atrocities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the incredible b View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by JUAREZ View Post
    The book GOD v. GODS by H.JOSEPH published by LULU maintains that if we really want to solve the terrible religious conflicts leading to outrageous barbaric acts and the explotation of Man in the name of religion our aim should be to free religion from the wicked people, the charlatans, who have highjacked it. Thus we will be able to turn it into a positive force instead of the destructive present one. This book shows step by step how to achieve this aim.
    I'm guessing this is either spam....or you're a pole smoker. Or both. Amiright?

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    Continuing the disastrous consequences of the Biblical teachings the book GOD v. GODS by H.JOSEPH, published by LULU, claims that probably the worst was making reward and punishment collective. This instruction gives any bigot the right to make anybody`s life a misery. As the writer says there is nothing easier than inventing sins and the zelots have been taking full advantage of this outrageous ruling. The book goes into full detail on this subject but here is sufficent to say that this is one of the biggest failings of the Bible.

    As the writer states time and again the massacars or the death sentences for religious transgressions most certainly have never happened. In contrast the above teaching on reward and punishment has been and continues to be the bane of Mankind. For this too the Bible is fully responsible.

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