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    Florida prosecutors will charge Zimmerman, hold trial

    With the evidence they found at the scene, and witnesses that came forward as soon as the cops showed up, the cops decided there wasn't enough evidence of Zimmerman committing a crime, to even arrest the man, much less charge him with anything.

    Nonetheless, the case has been so amazingly politicized , distorted, and lied about, by people up to and including the President of the United States, that I would now like to see Zimmerman brought to trial and ALL the evidence, including all the witnesses, the cops' testimony, and everything else, brought out and made public under oath.

    Did Zimmerman "stalk" Trayvon? Did Z attack him? Let's see what's brought out in court.

    Did Trayvon attack Zimmerman, knock him down, and beat him? Let's see what's brought out in court.

    The country has been so (carefully and deliberately) riled and inflamed, that full public hearings are the only way I can see, to clear the air.

    Not sure what Zimmerman can be charged with. Murder? Manslaughter? Discharging a firearm in city limits? Messing up the grass near a public sidewalk with the back of his head?

    But full PUBLIC hearings, televised, should be held; all evidence and testimony made public; and a verdict rendered by a jury of his peers.

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    George Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin shooting, official says

    By Sari Horwitz
    April 11, 2012

    Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey plans to announce as early as Wednesday afternoon that she is charging neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in the shooting of Trayvon Martin, according to a law enforcement official close to the investigation.

    It was not immediately clear what charge Zimmerman will face.

    Martin, 17 and unarmed, was shot and killed Feb. 26 by Zimmerman, who said he was acting in self-defense. Police in Sanford, Fla., where the shooting took place, did not charge Zimmerman, citing the state’s “stand your ground” law.

    Corey told reporters Tuesday night that she would hold a news conference about the case within 72 hours. A news release from her office said the event will be held in Sanford or Jacksonville, Fla.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    With the evidence they found at the scene, and witnesses that came forward as soon as the cops showed up, the cops decided there wasn't enough evidence of Zimmerman committing a crime, to even arrest the man, much less charge him with anything.
    Speaking of distortions, the mother fucker was arrested. He just wasn't charged.


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    Will Zimmerman turn himself in,or will he bolt (like Alex Kelly)?

    Or will he commit suicide?
    It is difficult for any decent person to sit back and not comment on the anti-Semitism,racism ,sexism ,and all-around ignorance espoused on the majority of DA's posts,it's fucking sad when one gets a warning for simply being a decent person.

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    I predict an OJ outcome.
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    Who is in self defense? A man with a gun and actively provocated a search, or a man without weapon on his way home?

    In this case, a killer said he killed for self defense. That opened the door to bandit to rob people without any risk. If he failed, he could kill the victim then claim he is self defense. That is the point.

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    Why are these type of threads in the 'Political Debate' threads? What is political about someone in Florida getting shot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
    Who is in self defense? A man with a gun and actively provocated a search, or a man without weapon on his way home?

    In this case, a killer said he killed for self defense. That opened the door to bandit to rob people without any risk. If he failed, he could kill the victim then claim he is self defense. That is the point.
    Pure speculation....in less you were an eye witness.
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    Zimmerman has turned himelf in,his location is being kept secret.

    The charge is Second-Degree Murder.
    It is difficult for any decent person to sit back and not comment on the anti-Semitism,racism ,sexism ,and all-around ignorance espoused on the majority of DA's posts,it's fucking sad when one gets a warning for simply being a decent person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antiquity View Post
    Why are these type of threads in the 'Political Debate' threads? What is political about someone in Florida getting shot?
    The gun law that kept him out of jail so far. Highly political.
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    It's Florida gun law that will be on trial. Zimmerman is just a pawn, and Martin epitomizes the victims of gun laws like Florida's.

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    Shits gonna hit the fan if they don't find Zimmerman guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenlillian1962 View Post
    Shits gonna hit the fan if they don't find Zimmerman guilty.
    Yup, OJ all over again. Apparently, the mob must be satisfied.
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    Oh settle down & stop being such an alarmist. Zimmerman isn't any OJ. He's not rich and he's not a famous athlete and he sure as hell doesn't have the dream team. Interesting that when a prosecutor finally looks at the evidence, she comes up with 2nd degree murder instead of letting him walk free. I do wonder if the original prosecutor may "retire" after this. Anyhow, the courts can take it from here.

    heh, yeah televising the trial is a wonderful idea too, Little Acorn. Why don't we make this a complete media circus that lasts for many months more? There's absolutely no reason to televise the trial. I read the police were responsible for leaking a lot of the info... to make their decision of letting Zimmerman go seem more legit to the public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu View Post
    Oh settle down & stop being such an alarmist. Zimmerman isn't any OJ. He's not rich and he's not a famous athlete and he sure as hell doesn't have the dream team. Interesting that when a prosecutor finally looks at the evidence, she comes up with 2nd degree murder instead of letting him walk free. I do wonder if the original prosecutor may "retire" after this. Anyhow, the courts can take it from here.

    heh, yeah televising the trial is a wonderful idea too, Little Acorn. Why don't we make this a complete media circus that lasts for many months more? There's absolutely no reason to televise the trial. I read the police were responsible for leaking a lot of the info... to make their decision of letting Zimmerman go seem more legit to the public.
    Zimmerman himself isn't even important any more. What's important is, once again, racial tensions are at the point that I believe there are significant numbers of people angry enough to hurt someone totally unrelated to the case if he is found not guilty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu View Post
    heh, yeah televising the trial is a wonderful idea too, Little Acorn.
    Thank you. It's the lesser of several evils, now that demagogic media and other racist pundits have worked so hard to stir up public ire and incite death threats, public bounties, and potential riots with fragmentary and often fabricated "evidence".

    Why don't we make this a complete media circus that lasts for many months more?
    Aren't you happy with the complete media circus we've already had for the past many months?

    There's absolutely no reason to televise the trial.
    See above... and past posts where I've already pointed this out.

    I read the police were responsible for leaking a lot of the info...
    Oh, so reading things on the internet is the way to get more calm, reasoned info?

    Listen to yourself.

    BTW, the main difference between info "leaked" by police, and info "leaked" by people such as NBC, Al Sharpton, the New Black Panther Party, and their ilk....

    ...is that what the police "leaked" (info from the eyewitness, videos of Zimmerman with marks on the back of his head etc.), is TRUE. Too bad the rabble-rousers can't say the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu View Post
    Oh settle down & stop being such an alarmist. Zimmerman isn't any OJ. He's not rich and he's not a famous athlete and he sure as hell doesn't have the dream team. Interesting that when a prosecutor finally looks at the evidence, she comes up with 2nd degree murder instead of letting him walk free. I do wonder if the original prosecutor may "retire" after this. Anyhow, the courts can take it from here.

    heh, yeah televising the trial is a wonderful idea too, Little Acorn. Why don't we make this a complete media circus that lasts for many months more? There's absolutely no reason to televise the trial. I read the police were responsible for leaking a lot of the info... to make their decision of letting Zimmerman go seem more legit to the public.
    He was overcharged on the theory that the jury will believe he did something wrong-and will convict on a lesser included offense, or that Zimmerman will panic and accept a lesser plea. Happens all the time.

    When someone like you tells anyone speaking on this subject to "settle down and stop being such an alarmist", the more even-headed among us get a healthy chuckle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadit View Post
    Zimmerman himself isn't even important any more. What's important is, once again, racial tensions are at the point that I believe there are significant numbers of people angry enough to hurt someone totally unrelated to the case if he is found not guilty.
    I understand a police car was pumped full of bullets just outside the gated community where the Martin shooting took place, so I guess it has began. Also some New Black Panther spokesperson when off the other day and was calling for a race war, making nasty racist remarks.
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    Little Acorn, so basically you would like to perpetuate the very thing you've been complaining about... the media coverage. Makes perfect sense to me. There's nothing that could provoke racial tensions even more than covering that case 24/7.

    And why I brought up the police leaking info... if anyone should have kept a lid on information on this case, it's them. They chose not to in order to try to sway public opinion in their favor.

    Anyhow, the system worked. Zimmerman has been charged with a crime which is what mattered in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu View Post
    Little Acorn, so basically you would like to perpetuate the very thing you've been complaining about... the media coverage. Makes perfect sense to me. There's nothing that could provoke racial tensions even more than covering that case 24/7.

    And why I brought up the police leaking info... if anyone should have kept a lid on information on this case, it's them. They chose not to in order to try to sway public opinion in their favor.

    Anyhow, the system worked. Zimmerman has been charged with a crime which is what mattered in the first place.
    It has to be televised now, if there is any hope of convincing the mob that a fair trial took place. Of course, the mob takes a LOT of convincing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu View Post
    Little Acorn, so basically you would like to perpetuate the very thing you've been complaining about... the media coverage. Makes perfect sense to me. There's nothing that could provoke racial tensions even more than covering that case 24/7.

    And why I brought up the police leaking info... if anyone should have kept a lid on information on this case, it's them. They chose not to in order to try to sway public opinion in their favor.

    Anyhow, the system worked. Zimmerman has been charged with a crime which is what mattered in the first place.
    So Zimmerman innocents has nothing to do with the outcome you have portrayed over the last couple weeks. I guess the vigilantes have won and the hell with justice.
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