No, there's no possibility of voter fraud...NONE!!

[antiquity]

Of course I know that, but the problem is that something weird was going on in Florida, you know.

You got any evidence something weird happened in Florida not forgetting that oversea military was denied their vote.

He got a higher % than his opponent. Bush didn't.

Something weird must have happened you know.

[antiquity]

Of course, but not in 2000.

I guess thats why Gore conceded after the SC upheld Florida election laws.

[GanjaFreebird]

I guess thats why Gore conceded after the SC upheld Florida election laws.

What choice did he have?

[GanjaFreebird]

You got any evidence something weird happened in Florida not forgetting that oversea military was denied their vote.

Well, for once, I would safely assume that most Jewish people in Florida did NOT vote for Pat Buchanan.

Something weird must have happened you know.

Evidence? He won the popular vote anyways.

[hadit]

What choice did he have?

Well, he could have taken a page from Obama's playbook, pretended that he won and just refused to leave his office when the marines showed up in January to evict him.

[hadit]

Well, in 2000, most Americans sure didn't vote for Bush, in America or even in Florida itself. What does THAT tell you?

Actually, they DID vote for him in Florida. Post election re-re-re-recounts showed that to be true. You're going to have to let go of that urban legend, I'm afraid.

[antiquity]

What choice did he have?

you're right he had no choice, he had to abide by Florida law.

[antiquity]

Well, for once, I would safely assume that most Jewish people in Florida did NOT vote for Pat Buchanan.

Are those the same New York transplants and retire Jewish people who couldn't even punch out a ballot chad? I guess we could rightfully blame Gore defeat on the Florida Jewish community.

[antiquity]

Actually, they DID vote for him in Florida. Post election re-re-re-recounts showed that to be true. You're going to have to let go of that urban legend, I'm afraid.

It is also a fact the all the liberal MSM in the Northeast went to Florida after the election to do their own investigation and found the results was still in favor of Bush.

[GanjaFreebird]

Well, he could have taken a page from Obama's playbook, pretended that he won and just refused to leave his office when the marines showed up in January to evict him.

C'mon, is this really the best you can do.

[GanjaFreebird]

Actually, they DID vote for him in Florida. Post election re-re-re-recounts showed that to be true. You're going to have to let go of that urban legend, I'm afraid.

You guys can't even give up on the urban legend that Obama was born in Africa, so you expect me to believe that most people in Florida REALLY voted for Bush and that most of Florida's Jews voted for Buchanan instead of Gore, and that there was DEFINITELY no fraud there?

[GanjaFreebird]

you're right he had no choice, he had to abide by Florida law.

Just like you guys will have to accept Obama as your president, regardless of WHERE you think he was born at.

[GanjaFreebird]

Are those the same New York transplants and retire Jewish people who couldn't even punch out a ballot chad? I guess we could rightfully blame Gore defeat on the Florida Jewish community.

No, we can blame it on fraud.

[hadit]

No, we can blame it on fraud.

If that's what you need to sleep at night.

[food4thought]

The problem is that conservatives keep claiming that this sort of thing is a huge problem, but have you yet met or heard of anyone who was unable to vote because someone else had stolen their ballot? No? Exactly. And it wasn't that long ago that some conservative politician somewhere was rattling off names of "dead" voters who had managed to vote in spite of being "dead", except that a simple investigation showed that they weren't actually dead and had actually voted. Oops. Conservatives keep claiming that voter fraud is a huge problem, but then are unable to present any proof that it actually IS. The fact that some wannabe journalist decided to try it for himself in no way suggests that average people are doing it. The penalties are enormous, and the one or two extra votes any particular individual would be able to cast just aren't worth it.

However, if you want to require identification, I'm actually fine with that IF you are going to start issuing said identification FOR FREE, including procuring all necessary supporting documents (birth certificate or whatever else you want) for free, as soon as a person turns 18, and IF that identification is not going to be tied to a particular address, since the address has no bearing on whether or not the individual says he or she is who he or she is. The way we can be sure that these programs really are about keeping legal voters from voting is that neither of these things are being done. The ID laws Republicans keep passing require that the ID have the correct current address, which is a barrier to voting for people who move frequently, and they are not provided at absolutely no cost, since acquiring supporting documentation is not free. Furthermore, in one state DMV workers are specifically prohibited from even telling people that the IDs are available for free. Also, elderly people who don't have access to their birth certificates should NEVER be prohibited from obtaining the necessary ID. That's just disgusting. Besides, don't older people lean Repub? So you just shoot yourselves in the feet with that one.

Don't you see that the Republicans are now paranoid about voter fraud because they know exactly how it works and are intimately familiar with all of the different ways to pull it off - they've successfully gotten away with it themselves more than once. The liar always suspects everyone else of lying to them because that's how they think and operate. You can't con a con(servative) man! (After suppressing the black vote in 2004, can you imagine the coronary they had when a black man became president in 2008? And these threads are perfect proof that they and all of their unrewarded sycophants still haven't gotten over it, and never will.)

[hadit]

Don't you see that the Republicans are now paranoid about voter fraud because they know exactly how it works and are intimately familiar with all of the different ways to pull it off - they've successfully gotten away with it themselves more than once. The liar always suspects everyone else of lying to them because that's how they think and operate. You can't con a con(servative) man! (After suppressing the black vote in 2004, can you imagine the coronary they had when a black man became president in 2008? And these threads are perfect proof that they and all of their unrewarded sycophants still haven't gotten over it, and never will.)

[antiquity]

Just like you guys will have to accept Obama as your president, regardless of WHERE you think he was born at.

Find a post where I said he wasn't born in the USA. Fact is... I've said all along he was.

[antiquity]

No, we can blame it on fraud.

Give me some fucking evidence that fraud gave Bush the presidency in 2000?

Nearly 500,000 Americans are abroad, defending our freedom as members of our armed forces. In standing their post and protecting the rest of us back home, they make enormous sacrifices. They live in tiny compartments aboard submarines and in tents on the gritty desert. They spend months, even years, away from their families. Some give up their lives in service of their nation.

Thanks to these brave men and women, those of us back home will head to our local polling places this November and exercise our foremost right — the right to vote.

But in an unconscionable systemic failure, too many of the men and women in our military will find it difficult to cast their vote and more difficult to have it counted, even though they are defending that right far from home.

Members of the military who are posted abroad must vote by absentee ballot in the state where they last lived before shipping out. Every state has a system for distributing and counting these absentee ballots, and these systems feature a wide range of rules and requirements.

http://www.cfif.org/htdocs/freedomli...ee_ballots.htm

[antiquity]

Don't you see that the Republicans are now paranoid about voter fraud because they know exactly how it works and are intimately familiar with all of the different ways to pull it off - they've successfully gotten away with it themselves more than once. The liar always suspects everyone else of lying to them because that's how they think and operate. You can't con a con(servative) man! (After suppressing the black vote in 2004, can you imagine the coronary they had when a black man became president in 2008? And these threads are perfect proof that they and all of their unrewarded sycophants still haven't gotten over it, and never will.)

Instead of ranting and raving, why don't you support your claim by provide a little proof.

[hadit]

Instead of ranting and raving, why don't you support your claim by provide a little proof.

Don't need proof, it's a faith thing.