National Review Writer Under Fire for Racial Column

[86Dùde]

Put in the right context that is good advice in the context of large concentrations of black folks. If I were in Detroit I WOULD NOT walk into a crowd of black people for example. Now, if the crowd of black folks was in the 30 and up range then I doubt I'd have a problem with it even in Detroit. Some of the other stuff in that guys list was just stupid, but If I apply Detroit rules to the any of the situations on the list then suddenly those rules make more sense.

[Malcolm Wright]

Perhaps.
Obama picks the scabs to win votes. If blacks have something to think about besides playing the victim and hating whitey, the might notice the abysmal unemployment rate and such thinks and not vote for Obama.

Your claim does not hold up to scrutiny. Obama was under pressure from black interest groups for a good while before he chose to make a statement. Hardly the image you paint here. If he were seeking such opportunities, he'd not need to be pressured.
Besides, can't you tell a heart felt expression: politicians do make them you know. They are human beings. Obama's statements about Trayvon Martin were heart felt, and if you can't tell, check your heart for cynical rot.

When I heard that I though, "there he goes mouthing off half-cocked again."

Fair enough. To the degree that making the statement set off a section of the population, I suppose that's a legitimate call. But you know, the president makes statements all the time that upset certain portions of the population.

Somethings upset us but are nevertheless things we need to hear. This country has a sordid and on-going history of racist inequality when it comes to the actions of the police and the justice system. And frankly, the American people have never made the necessary efforts to strongly address those problems. Those of us who have are community activists and non-profits - often met with scorn and derision by mainstream America as pinko-commie malcontents. As our nation's first black president, it is only fitting that Obama express some of the things we need to hear from a higher authority, because we just simply have not been listening.

Sure racism keeps us divided. So does political correctness. True communication and an honest effort at healing is what will end divisiveness. There's very VERY little of that out there.

Well, I'd agree insofar as Obama could carry out the role in a more holistic manner than just commenting in reaction to isolated incidents. The impression I get is that he would like to and in a better age, he might have done so already. He has, objectively speaking, had his hands full managing the fallout of two wars, arguably the greatest recession to hit the country in 80 years and a number of other tasks large and small.

M

[Going Postal]

did you read these articles which prompted the one you posted?

http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/03...ear-after.html
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ap-w...ack-male-code/

Some poster posted a YouTube link at the star telegram link.



The Grand Cougar!

[Malcolm Wright]

Put in the right context that is good advice in the context of large concentrations of black folks. If I were in Detroit I WOULD NOT walk into a crowd of black people for example. Now, if the crowd of black folks was in the 30 and up range then I doubt I'd have a problem with it even in Detroit. Some of the other stuff in that guys list was just stupid, but If I apply Detroit rules to the any of the situations on the list then suddenly those rules make more sense.

Well context is usually Everything.
I wouldn't walk into a crowd of white people if they were wearing Klan outfits, or had swastika tatoos.

Honestly, regardless of ethnicity, any family with kids in the USA needs to have a race talk with their kids. Lets just be really careful about exactly what wisdom we pass on to them because if we follow that guy's lead, we're passing on more than survival techniques: we're passing on fear and separation. Note the part he includes of making friends with successful black folk not just for the joys of friendship, but because it will serve as an alibi against being labelled a racist. That's just sick. Imagine white kids growing up thinking - I need to find me some black friends as alibis? It perverts the very beauty of genuine interracial bonds.

M

[jwreck]

[jwreck]

Some poster posted a YouTube link at the star telegram link.



The Grand Cougar!

Nice video.

[Malcolm Wright]

Haha - hilarious
If we trained all our children in the martial arts, then the race talk would become redundant. Inherent in martial arts training is a constant awareness of one's surroundings, threat levels, routes of escape, avenues of attack, weaknesses and strengths. No need to bring race into it... far more important is diagnosing the mood, capabilities and dispositions of other human beings around us. Racial stereotypes actually cloud that direct perception more than they aid it!

M

[Malcolm Wright]

Nice video.

Yeah - I enjoyed it too - until at the very end the guy makes a completely pointless snipe at liberals which kind of dragged down the level of the entire presentation in my eyes.

M

[jwreck]

Yeah - I enjoyed it too - until at the very end the guy makes a completely pointless snipe at liberals which kind of dragged down the level of the entire presentation in my eyes.

M

Yeah I agree with that. I almost commented on it but figured the rest of the video was good enough to overlook that.

[Going Postal]

Yeah I agree with that. I almost commented on it but figured the rest of the video was good enough to overlook that.

Maybe he's not an Useful Idiot (or Fellow Traveller).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellow_traveller

[big steve]

Kinda like, "Walk softly, but carry a big stick!"

[caddis]

Is it typical? Can you cite some more” typical” articles from other “typical” NRO authors? (pssst…I’d prefer stuff that NRO actual published but we haven’t started at that point so I doubt we’ll finish there)

Note: This is my second request for you to back such a statement...you ignored the first one.

Still looking, Boo?

[9ball8]

Haha - hilarious
If we trained all our children in the martial arts, then the race talk would become redundant. Inherent in martial arts training is a constant awareness of one's surroundings, threat levels, routes of escape, avenues of attack, weaknesses and strengths. No need to bring race into it... far more important is diagnosing the mood, capabilities and dispositions of other human beings around us. Racial stereotypes actually cloud that direct perception more than they aid it!

M

That pretty much sums it up. Young adults/teens in a crowd? If they are in a bar, keep an eye out since drugs (alcohol included) are being ingested. Most folks in a crowd wearing lots of bling, arguing between groups/individuals, some talk about who's packing heat or who owes what or has a grudge? Where's the door, I think I left the stove on and need to go home fast. Mixed age groups or family, arguing, joking, flirting, other routine stuff? No problem. And so on. Note that ethnic background isn't an issue. The bling scene could happen in Moscow or Detroit. Here's a stereotype, but it's backed up by stats on violence linked with youth. If you see a large gathering of youth at an amusement park -and it seems like they are taking sides- one should come right out and ask if there are rivals present. Someone in the know might clarify; football teams from different schools, probably no big deal. If the rivalry is gang-related, one can wisely return to the park some other day.

[Pho King]

BTW: Aren't you the same person that recently said: "Every kid considers going along with the crowd, no matter what kind of stupid shit the crowd is doing. "

Yeah, well...... Boo also attributed every restraining order he could find under the name "George Zimmerman" to the George Zimmerman that blasted that black kid. Lets just say Boo is not as interested in facts as in the ugly pictures he fingerpaints.

[antiquity]

http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_...#disqus_thread

Yeah, in the actual article he also goes on to say that half of blacks would go along with some lynchings and that blacks are stupid. Shame that wasn't included.

The fact that he writes for the NRO is just . . . well, typical.

So if the article was written on moveon.org or Daily Kos you wouldn't have given it a second thought?

[antiquity]

Your claim does not hold up to scrutiny. Obama was under pressure from black interest groups for a good while before he chose to make a statement. Hardly the image you paint here. If he were seeking such opportunities, he'd not need to be pressured.
Besides, can't you tell a heart felt expression: politicians do make them you know. They are human beings. Obama's statements about Trayvon Martin were heart felt, and if you can't tell, check your heart for cynical rot.

Obama statement about Martin wasn't make for anything but political reasons as all his statement have been made in the past three and half campaigning for re-election years.

[Pho King]

Your claim does not hold up to scrutiny. Obama was under pressure from black interest groups for a good while before he chose to make a statement. Hardly the image you paint here. If he were seeking such opportunities, he'd not need to be pressured.
Besides, can't you tell a heart felt expression: politicians do make them you know. They are human beings. Obama's statements about Trayvon Martin were heart felt, and if you can't tell, check your heart for cynical rot.
M

Obama has provided a plethora of just such heart-felt expressions.

"its not surprising then that they cling to their guns, or religion, or antipathy to people that aren't like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade..."- explaining small-town (mostly white) attitudes

"If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, ‘We're gonna punish our enemies and we're gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us,' if they don't see that kind of upsurge in voting in this election, then I think it's gonna be harder..." explaining to a congregation of wise latinas, and probably wise latinos, how to really show whitey his power.

""We're not trying to push financial reform because we begrudge success that's fairly earned. I mean, I do think at a certain point you've made enough money. But, you know, part of the American way is, you know, you can just keep on making it if you're providing a good product or providing good service. We don’t want people to stop, ah, fulfilling the core responsibilities of the financial system to help grow our economy"- explaining how he doesn't want to punish success-as long as you dont have too much of it

"The Cambridge police acted stupidly"- word up, ma brutha.....

[Malcolm Wright]

Obama statement about Martin wasn't make for anything but political reasons as all his statement have been made in the past three and half campaigning for re-election years.

So Obama is not a human being, but a political robot?

M.

[hadit]

So Obama is not a human being, but a political robot?

M.

You're getting close.

[Malcolm Wright]

So if the article was written on moveon.org or Daily Kos you wouldn't have given it a second thought?

That's not what he said. He finds the guys piece typical of the NRO. If it had been on moveon.org, he would have found it atypical.

M