National Review Writer Under Fire for Racial Column

[hadit]

That's not what he said. He finds the guys piece typical of the NRO. If it had been on moveon.org, he would have found it atypical.

M

That's true. He also, however, has been challenged to demonstrate that his opinion is based on more than a partisan desire to paint the opposition in the worst light possible, even if it means falsely accusing them of racism. I have not seen anything "typical" like that on the NRO website. It will be interesting to see if he comes up with anything, admits he was wrong, or just quietly walks away.

[antiquity]

That's not what he said. He finds the guys piece typical of the NRO. If it had been on moveon.org, he would have found it atypical.

M

Evidence?

[BooRadley]

That's true. He also, however, has been challenged to demonstrate that his opinion is based on more than a partisan desire to paint the opposition in the worst light possible, even if it means falsely accusing them of racism. I have not seen anything "typical" like that on the NRO website. It will be interesting to see if he comes up with anything, admits he was wrong, or just quietly walks away.

Okay, who did this guy write for? It was teh NRO, so why would I need to do anything at all to paint them "in the worst possible light"? KKK and skinheads and Aryan Nations have a habit of showing up at Tea Party rallies. Wonder why? They have a history with the Minute Men. Wonder why? People like this guy are churning out their bile at sites like the NRO. Wonder why?

Why, hadit, do you think that right-wing groups always attract these people? What do you suppose keeps making that happen?

[Chachma v'Oz]

http://www.salon.com/2012/04/09/raci...iew/singleton/

[hadit]

Okay, who did this guy write for? It was teh NRO,

Operative word being WAS. The NRO didn't want him around. Obviously, they disagree with what he wrote OUTSIDE of the NRO. The standard is, present something the NRO actually published, you know, that is "typical" of what he wrote.

so why would I need to do anything at all to paint them "in the worst possible light"?

Because you hate any organization that publicizes conservative viewpoints and can't dispute them in the arena of ideas.

KKK and skinheads and Aryan Nations have a habit of showing up at Tea Party rallies.

Evidence?

Wonder why? They have a history with the Minute Men.

Evidence?

Wonder why? People like this guy are churning out their bile at sites like the NRO. Wonder why?

See my opening comment. You're striking out, badly.

Why, hadit, do you think that right-wing groups always attract these people? What do you suppose keeps making that happen?

IOW, you have no evidence at all. Nothing but supposition and innuendo. Not surprising.

[BooRadley]

Operative word being WAS.

Yes, he was. This is like when you guys were bragging because Tea Party protests had a sign inspection station to reject overtly racist signs that Tea Parties brought. You failed to miss the fact that they had to have a sign inspection station to reject overtly racist signs that Tea Parties brought. These people always show up at rightwing organizations. Ever stop to wonder why?

Evidence?

http://mediamatters.org/mobile/blog/201108030016

Evidence?

http://www.democraticunderground.com...ess=389x560405

See my opening comment. You're striking out, badly.

IOW, you have no evidence at all. Nothing but supposition and innuendo. Not surprising.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Par...t#TeaParty.org
http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201007150012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutem...ject#Criticism

Not at all. Every time rightwingers get together, someone talks about Arab monkeys or black welfare queens or some other horseshit. You can't get a group of rightwingers together before someone's flyin' a Confederate battle flag and passing out racist literature. Look at the fact that the rightwingers on this board were linking Stormfront propaganda. You guys just can't help yourselves. Caddis linked Stormfront stuff repeatedly, and so did a lot of you guys. Did you ever stop to ask yourself why the same things that Stormfronters think is important is the stuff that you folks do? Why the same things the Klan thinks are worth a rally are the same things that you folks do? That the same things Aryan Nations thinks are priorities are the things that you folks do?

What is it about right-wing politics that keeps drawing these people out?

Why was this guy, who thinks white people need to stay away from black people because they're dangerous, just happened to be in agreement with rightwingers on everything else?

Did you notice that he wasn't writing for teh Daily Kos? That the "Precious Ben Jealous" letter didn't come from the leader of Democratic Underground? That the KKK doesn't show up at anti-war protests? That the leader of Think Progess isn't the one in the picture here?

http://washingtonindependent.com/730...a-party-leader

Why does this trend exist? Have you ever stopped to think about it?

[Going Postal]

That the KKK doesn't show up at anti-war protests?

Actually, they don't like dying for Israel, so...

[Cyclone Ranger]

The only people who ever died for Israel are the Israelis.

[jwreck]

The only people who ever died for Israel are the Israelis.

Ungrateful fucktard.

[Pho King]

Yes, he was. This is like when you guys were bragging because Tea Party protests had a sign inspection station to reject overtly racist signs that Tea Parties brought. You failed to miss the fact that they had to have a sign inspection station to reject overtly racist signs that Tea Parties brought. These people always show up at rightwing organizations. Ever stop to wonder why?



http://mediamatters.org/mobile/blog/201108030016



http://www.democraticunderground.com...ess=389x560405



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Par...t#TeaParty.org
http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201007150012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutem...ject#Criticism

Not at all. Every time rightwingers get together, someone talks about Arab monkeys or black welfare queens or some other horseshit. You can't get a group of rightwingers together before someone's flyin' a Confederate battle flag and passing out racist literature. Look at the fact that the rightwingers on this board were linking Stormfront propaganda. You guys just can't help yourselves. Caddis linked Stormfront stuff repeatedly, and so did a lot of you guys. Did you ever stop to ask yourself why the same things that Stormfronters think is important is the stuff that you folks do? Why the same things the Klan thinks are worth a rally are the same things that you folks do? That the same things Aryan Nations thinks are priorities are the things that you folks do?

What is it about right-wing politics that keeps drawing these people out?

Why was this guy, who thinks white people need to stay away from black people because they're dangerous, just happened to be in agreement with rightwingers on everything else?

Did you notice that he wasn't writing for teh Daily Kos? That the "Precious Ben Jealous" letter didn't come from the leader of Democratic Underground? That the KKK doesn't show up at anti-war protests? That the leader of Think Progess isn't the one in the picture here?

http://washingtonindependent.com/730...a-party-leader

Why does this trend exist? Have you ever stopped to think about it?

Its because there are racists behind every tree. BOO!

[antiquity]

Yes, he was. This is like when you guys were bragging because Tea Party protests had a sign inspection station to reject overtly racist signs that Tea Parties brought. You failed to miss the fact that they had to have a sign inspection station to reject overtly racist signs that Tea Parties brought. These people always show up at rightwing organizations. Ever stop to wonder why?

http://mediamatters.org/mobile/blog/201108030016

http://www.democraticunderground.com...ess=389x560405

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Par...t#TeaParty.org
http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201007150012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutem...ject#Criticism

Not at all. Every time rightwingers get together, someone talks about Arab monkeys or black welfare queens or some other horseshit. You can't get a group of rightwingers together before someone's flyin' a Confederate battle flag and passing out racist literature. Look at the fact that the rightwingers on this board were linking Stormfront propaganda. You guys just can't help yourselves. Caddis linked Stormfront stuff repeatedly, and so did a lot of you guys. Did you ever stop to ask yourself why the same things that Stormfronters think is important is the stuff that you folks do? Why the same things the Klan thinks are worth a rally are the same things that you folks do? That the same things Aryan Nations thinks are priorities are the things that you folks do?

What is it about right-wing politics that keeps drawing these people out?

Why was this guy, who thinks white people need to stay away from black people because they're dangerous, just happened to be in agreement with rightwingers on everything else?

Did you notice that he wasn't writing for teh Daily Kos? That the "Precious Ben Jealous" letter didn't come from the leader of Democratic Underground? That the KKK doesn't show up at anti-war protests? That the leader of Think Progess isn't the one in the picture here?

http://washingtonindependent.com/730...a-party-leader

Why does this trend exist? Have you ever stopped to think about it?

You you painting a very broad picture with a very narrow brush. I could go to the many liberal web sites and paint the same picture on the other side of this issue, but what would be the point?

[BooRadley]

You you painting a very broad picture with a very narrow brush. I could go to the many liberal web sites and paint the same picture on the other side of this issue, but what would be the point?

The point is . . . typical. As I had said in the beginning. These fuckers love you people.

[Malcolm Wright]

Evidence?

What do you MEAN evidence? That's what he said. Its not something I'm postulating - it is clearly what he said, and you failed to understand it.

M

[Malcolm Wright]

That's true. He also, however, has been challenged to demonstrate that his opinion is based on more than a partisan desire to paint the opposition in the worst light possible, even if it means falsely accusing them of racism. I have not seen anything "typical" like that on the NRO website. It will be interesting to see if he comes up with anything, admits he was wrong, or just quietly walks away.

Ah ok. I'm not familiar with NRO. This will be a learning process for me.

M

[Malcolm Wright]

You you painting a very broad picture with a very narrow brush. I could go to the many liberal web sites and paint the same picture on the other side of this issue, but what would be the point?

Boo makes a valid point. Racists are overwhelmingly drawn to conservative rallying cries.
To me, its not really a mystery why, and its not an attack on conservatism as a whole.

These people are a bane that your school of thought has to contend with, and I am sympathetic to the fact that it must suck.

M

[BooRadley]

These people are a bane that your school of thought has to contend with, and I am sympathetic to the fact that it must suck.

M

Exactly. I'm not saying all conservatives are White Knights, just that it's typical for those fuckheads to show up anywhere there's a lot of rightwing talk going on. The Conservatives would do well to deal with the reality of that, rather than living in denial of it.

[big steve]

Boo makes a valid point. Racists are overwhelmingly drawn to conservative rallying cries.
To me, its not really a mystery why, and its not an attack on conservatism as a whole.

These people are a bane that your school of thought has to contend with, and I am sympathetic to the fact that it must suck.

M

Conservatives tend not to like special laws for any group. Hate crimes, hiring quotas, reparation talk, and college preference tend to alienate conservatives, hence they are called racists when mostly they are not. Sure, some racists are drawn to these beliefs, but MORE racists are drawn to groups who support these special laws and policies.

[hadit]

Yes, he was. This is like when you guys were bragging because Tea Party protests had a sign inspection station to reject overtly racist signs that Tea Parties brought. You failed to miss the fact that they had to have a sign inspection station to reject overtly racist signs that Tea Parties brought. These people always show up at rightwing organizations. Ever stop to wonder why?

Do you ever stop to wonder why conservatives take the time and effort to root out the undesirable elements in the first place? It is precisely because they do not want them there. I do not see liberals doing that. Case in point, the NBP and the president.

http://mediamatters.org/mobile/blog/201108030016



http://www.democraticunderground.com...ess=389x560405



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Par...t#TeaParty.org
http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201007150012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutem...ject#Criticism

Not at all. Every time rightwingers get together, someone talks about Arab monkeys or black welfare queens or some other horseshit. You can't get a group of rightwingers together before someone's flyin' a Confederate battle flag and passing out racist literature. Look at the fact that the rightwingers on this board were linking Stormfront propaganda. You guys just can't help yourselves. Caddis linked Stormfront stuff repeatedly, and so did a lot of you guys. Did you ever stop to ask yourself why the same things that Stormfronters think is important is the stuff that you folks do? Why the same things the Klan thinks are worth a rally are the same things that you folks do? That the same things Aryan Nations thinks are priorities are the things that you folks do?

What is it about right-wing politics that keeps drawing these people out?

Why was this guy, who thinks white people need to stay away from black people because they're dangerous, just happened to be in agreement with rightwingers on everything else?

Did you notice that he wasn't writing for teh Daily Kos? That the "Precious Ben Jealous" letter didn't come from the leader of Democratic Underground? That the KKK doesn't show up at anti-war protests? That the leader of Think Progess isn't the one in the picture here?

http://washingtonindependent.com/730...a-party-leader

Why does this trend exist? Have you ever stopped to think about it?

Citing mediamatters and democraticunderground while complaining about another organization's journalistic practices is, shall we say, slightly hilarious.

[hadit]

Boo makes a valid point. Racists are overwhelmingly drawn to conservative rallying cries.
To me, its not really a mystery why, and its not an attack on conservatism as a whole.

These people are a bane that your school of thought has to contend with, and I am sympathetic to the fact that it must suck.

M

That only holds if you ignore the racism evident in American liberalism, namely the continuing contempt for minorities' ability to compete with others. It is cloaked in "nice" language, but it's still racist to assume, for example, that a black student should meet lower standards to get into college than a white student, that a black policeman should get promoted with lower scores on the aptitude test than a white policeman, etc.

IOW, racists are not confined to the conservative end of the spectrum.

[Chachma v'Oz]

Affirmative Action is so '70s. It had its purpose at the time, but a generation later that purpose has pretty much been served. That may be why we don't here about it any more except from folks who want to tell us how liberals think.