Voice analysis seems to exclude Zimmerman as the voice crying for help

[Lulu]

Dngrmse is notoriously lazy when it comes to googling. He couldn't be bothered to find Rush's own transcript from his own site during the Sandra Fluke brouhaha. In fact, he demanded that people find a citation for him and he still tried to claim he didn't call her a slut. I wouldn't waste much time trying to make him more proactive in finding sources.

[Chachma v'Oz]

Yup - saw that.
Even if they were one hundred percent sure it was not Zimmerman, that would still be true, technically.

They don't know who it is, but they know who it isn't: Zimmerman. They're sure of that.

[jwreck]

They don't know who it is, but they know who it isn't: Zimmerman. They're sure of that.

No, there's a 48% chance it could be Zimmerman. That's not very sure if you ask me.

[jwreck]

Using it, he found a 48% likelihood the voice is Zimmerman's. At least 60% is necessary to feel confident two samples are from the same source, he told CNN on Monday

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Again, the quality of the tapes I would think would make voice matching very difficult. But what do I know, I have no claim whatsoever to being an expert in this field.

[Chachma v'Oz]

No, there's a 48% chance it could be Zimmerman. That's not very sure if you ask me.

How'd you come up with that figure?

[jwreck]

How'd you come up with that figure?

CNN.

[Chachma v'Oz]

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-last-...4308/#46934308 puts that assurance that it's not Zimmerman in the '90s percent range.

[caddis]

there is good practice and poor practice when it comes to debate, and you're rating below zero on this thread.

M

At his point in the thread, I don't believe you have the right to rate others.

Rather than defend your source you have spent the past couple of posts lamely attacking DM. DM has clearly discredited your source and seemingly ended this debate and in the process he has demonstarted how you aren't the "unbias" person you pretend to be.

[jwreck]

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-last-...4308/#46934308 puts that assurance that it's not Zimmerman in the '90s percent range.

Oh goody! Your source even makes reference to the dispatch tape trying to make a big deal out of the cancelled extra ambulance. I'm sure that's very trustworthy.

[Chachma v'Oz]

I imagine that a lot of things that displease and disappoint you are quite real.

[jwreck]

Why would I be displeased or disappointed?

[Chachma v'Oz]

Your comment about my link's trustworthiness smacked of displeasure of some sort.

[jwreck]

More like amazement at the straws they are attempting to grasp.

[Chachma v'Oz]

Zimmerman's supporters are the ones looking for anything to grasp. It's been established that a "Stand Your Ground" defense here is shaky and that an armed, grown man with a history of violence shot and killed an unarmed youth after being advised to stand down. And due to the notoriety of the act, if I were Zimmerman I wouldn't be expecting any kind of plea deal. Nor kind treatment by others if imprisoned.

Who could use some straws right now?

[jwreck]

If its such a rock solid case why all the propaganda? If its cut and dried why are the quibbling over an EXTRA ambulance?

[Chachma v'Oz]

What quibbling? A second ambulance initially ordered for Z wasn't needed and was cancelled. Other than indicating that Z didn't want/need medical attention, what's your point about the ambulance?

[Malcolm Wright]

At his point in the thread, I don't believe you have the right to rate others.

Rather than defend your source you have spent the past couple of posts lamely attacking DM. DM has clearly discredited your source and seemingly ended this debate and in the process he has demonstarted how you aren't the "unbias" person you pretend to be.

Utter fail Caddis. I've defended my source. I went to the article DM posted a link to, read it and responded to it.

http://www.discussanything.com/forum...64#post2270864

So far, DM has not responded, but unlike him, I don't assume other people have to meet my desires of timely response - he might be busy and may come back and respond at a later moment. But if you were to berate anyone, it should be him since its his turn.

I don't think you're paying attention.
If you don't explicitly recognize how far off the mark you were on this one, calling me out in this way, I'll stop wasting my time with you. Simple.

M

[jwreck]

What quibbling? A second ambulance initially ordered for Z wasn't needed and was cancelled. Other than indicating that Z didn't want/need medical attention, what's your point about the ambulance?

I completely agree with this analysis. However, I have seen that Martin's "side" is saying that the cancelled ambulance is somehow proof that Zimmerman was not injured.

[Malcolm Wright]

I completely agree with this analysis. However, I have seen that Martin's "side" is saying that the cancelled ambulance is somehow proof that Zimmerman was not injured.

That seems to be the pattern with people who take sides strongly.

M