Oh, no...Obama's Birth Cert is actually FAKED. I'm CONVINCED!!

[GanjaFreebird]

What an ignorant and misleading post! Many believe Obama was born in Kenya, and his mother's lack of residency qualification would negate him being "natural born." All this has been repeatedly discussed, so quit acting stupid!

No it wouldn't, because it's a racist state law that was expired by 1962. Nobody gives a shit about it. Having said that, he was born in America.

[Truth Teller]

The woman is either telling the truth or she's not. I'm not saying I believe her.... but it wouldn't surprise me at all if what she was saying is true.

I want to find out more about Viviano

You've got too much time on your hands.

[Truth Teller]

What an ignorant and misleading post! Many believe Obama was born in Kenya, and his mother's lack of residency qualification would negate him being "natural born." All this has been repeatedly discussed, so quit acting stupid!

You are your ilk's opinion does not change that he was as likely born in Kenya as he was in Hawaii. Gullibility in accepting a fake BC is no excuse for your ignorance.

[hadit]

You've got too much time on your hands.

Because, as we all know, finding out more about stuff is like all dangerous and shouldn't be done.

[lily]

TT, do you disagree with the statement: "She is either telling the truth or she isn't" ?

Yes or no, please.

[Vader]

Gosh, you are IGNORANT !

Yes, you are ignorant. This is the trademark of the republizombie. Feel free to cease spewing propaganda at any time.

[Vader]

Does that mean he was eligible through his mother? I thought you had to be born in the US...

M

The requirement states that you must be born an American citizen. This is possible if woman is abroad and her child is born abroad. Being born abroad to an AMERICAN CITIZEN makes the child being born an AMERICAN by birth. As long as the mother is a U.S. citizen, the child is a U.S. citizen.

[lily]

It's not quite that simple. Apparently, there isn't a consensus on the definition of "natural born citizen."

But at this point, even if it was determined that a person born abroad with one American citizen parent qualifies as a natural born citizen, it wouldn't matter. Because IF (big if here) it did turn out that he was born abroad, then he would be guilty of fraud/forgery, and intentionally deceiving the nation this entire time. If Vader and Ganja's definition of natural born citizen is constitutionally correct, then he should've (and would've) just told the truth from the start.

[GanjaFreebird]

It's not quite that simple. Apparently, there isn't a consensus on the definition of "natural born citizen."

But at this point, even if it was determined that a person born abroad with one American citizen parent qualifies as a natural born citizen, it wouldn't matter. Because IF (big if here) it did turn out that he was born abroad, then he would be guilty of fraud/forgery, and intentionally deceiving the nation this entire time. If Vader and Ganja's definition of natural born citizen is constitutionally correct, then he should've (and would've) just told the truth from the start.

lily, he was born in America, and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it, he will be your president most likely until 2016. Welcome to the real world!

[lily]

lily, he was born in America, and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it, he will be your president most likely until 2016. Welcome to the real world!

Hey, I was just responding to the obvious flaw in your previous post. As for your comment above, well, I think you have good intentions, but it is extremely sad that you still haven't realized that (regardless of where he was born) Obama isn't what he presents himself to be, and he doesn't deserve your trust. I'm reminded of something that Jesus said... some people prefer to believe a lie than the truth. Or (evidently) some people just have a harder time discerning lies from truth. I will pray for you in that regard.

[lily]

Also, this comment is extremely sad, unwise and misguided:

I don't care about "corruption" because ALL of them are corrupt, the question is, who is going to do less damage. Nice people don't get to be powerful, the only question is who is actually going to get anything done in regards to what each of us support, that's all.

How can you not understand that if our leaders are crooks who care not about the law of the land they swore to uphold, WE are going to be screwed over and stabbed in the back ultimately? Obviously because people like that only care about power and wealth, they don't care about you, me, or any laws.

[9ball8]

Also, this comment is extremely sad, unwise and misguided:

How can you not understand that if our leaders are crooks who care not about the law of the land they swore to uphold, WE are going to be screwed over and stabbed in the back ultimately? Obviously because people like that only care about power and wealth, they don't care about you, me, or any laws.

Hey, that's right! We should all get involved and remove corrupt politicians from office. We should spend less time watching TV and playing with our other toys if we want our Republic to continue. On the other hand, playing with toys is more fun. I bet most people would rather play with their toys, instead of worrying about all this political stuff. Who cares if it looks like the last year of the Roman Republic?

[lily]

Hey, that's right! We should all get involved and remove corrupt politicians from office. We should spend less time watching TV and playing with our other toys if we want our Republic to continue. On the other hand, playing with toys is more fun. I bet most people would rather play with their toys, instead of worrying about all this political stuff. Who cares if it looks like the last year of the Roman Republic?

If that was sarcasm, then please don't quit your day job to get into comedy. If you disagree with what I said, then just state your point like Ganja did.

And btw, you know the quote, "People get the government they deserve" ? This may be a terrible thing to say, but if people are apathetic about criminals in power, then maybe they do deserve what is coming to them.

[9ball8]

It was both sarcasm and agreement with your observation of getting the gov't we deserve. Sarcasm isn't always meant to be funny. Just like the end of the Republic; my comment was meant to be anything but funny. My prediction would be much worse than 86 Dude's violent purge: we'll go out with a whimper, the plutocrats will take power and few people will even notice, let alone object much. Even those that do object will simply be ignored and the faded empire will limp along on low power as China ascends. Oh wait, that already happened . There goes my sarcasm, again. And yet, it clearly explains my position.

[big steve]

That's a really stupid thing to say! Even for you punk! No one believes Obama was born in Kenya EXCEPT FOR RETARDED RETARDS! I am sick and tired of your blatant disrepect! Only a brown terrorist would say the same things you have to say! Are you on the same side of the terrorists big steve you punk ass punk! YOU'RE EITHER WITH US OR YOU'RE WITH THE TERRORISTS! Answer me or I'll personally have you escorted to Guantanamo Bay! Punk!

HaHa, I'm neither with idiots like you nor am I with the terrorists! I believe in openness, honesty, and common sense. You obviously find those things distasteful. You are dumber than owlshit, you left-coast POS! You talk more civil, and I will not have to return in kind with the only language you may be smart enough to understand.

[lily]

It was both sarcasm and agreement with your observation of getting the gov't we deserve. Sarcasm isn't always meant to be funny. Just like the end of the Republic; my comment was meant to be anything but funny. My prediction would be much worse than 86 Dude's violent purge: we'll go out with a whimper, the plutocrats will take power and few people will even notice, let alone object much. Even those that do object will simply be ignored and the faded empire will limp along on low power as China ascends. Oh wait, that already happened . There goes my sarcasm, again. And yet, it clearly explains my position.

Ah, ok. Yes, I totally agree. Sorry for my not-so-nice post, you caught me at a bad moment. Speaking of corruption, I have been looking into some other stuff (on different topics) and things are far worse than most people realize. It gets to the point where it's almost surreal, and a bit frightening when you think about what the end result will be, if it continues. So with that in mind, when it seemed 50/50 that you were mocking my point and being dismissive, it just pissed me off at that moment. Sorry.

[Cyclone Ranger]

There's nothing wrong with healthy skepticism, but when it's nothing more than an ill-fitting mask for an obvious partisan agenda, it stops being healthy.

[Šñøü†ê®]

Kamandi, I find it troubling that your little friend Ganga is confusing being a Natural Born US Citizen with Talmudic ethnic identity rules. Again, with a real birth certificate we do not even know who Obama's Mama was. There are indeed crazy theories that his Obama's Mama's Daddy did a street prostitute and that was really Obama's Mama. NOBODY KNOWS WITHOUT PROPER DOCUMENTATION! The Kenyan people have a marker where he was born in Kenya. Why doesn't Larry Logan and the CBS news team check it out?

The other thing is since there has been so much bullshit, lies, and sneaky activity, even if they do come up with a birth certificate that was not an obvious fake like the one posted after Trump demanded it, it would difficult to believe because it is irrelevant at this point. The liar perpetrating the charade should be impeached and institutionalized or sent back to Kenya or whatever.

[Archaix]

The Kenyan people have a marker where he was born in Kenya. Why doesn't Larry Logan and the CBS news team check it out?

And the Japanese believe Jesus is buried in the village of Shingō. Doesn't mean it's true.

[Šñøü†ê®]

The thing is Archaix, anyone born in the West in past 100 years or often a 100 years before that has complete and full documentation. Somalia or Kenya claiming Hussaine was born there is important because there is no info to refute the claim. And Hussaine is currently residing in the White House when not on the golf course!