Reply With QuotePappy&Me (09-29-2012)
US said Saddam was a dictator and activated a war on Iraq. As a result, Islamic extremists control Iraq and Iraq Christian suffered severe persecution. They escaped to Syria. Now US says Assad is a dictator and ..... Poor Christians, where will they go this time?
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The price of regime change
By David Warren, Ottawa Citizen
There are millions of Christians in Syria, who probably have the Russians and Chinese to thank that they may live there a little longer. The Security Council vetoes, a fortnight ago, on a resolution calling upon Syria's dictator to step down, and supporting an Arab-sponsored plan to "end the violence," put paid to any immediate prospect of western intervention.
The outrage expressed by Hillary Clinton, William Hague, and other western foreign ministers, probably concealed a little relief, for the vetoes provided the excuse they needed to avoid the issue, while continuing to posture about "humanitarianism" and "democracy."
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Christians were as common in Syria as in Egypt, before their numbers were immensely swelled by refugees from Iraq - well over a million fleeing up the Euphrates River valley, from anti-Christian persecution by Iraq's Islamists. By now, there could be more than four million Christians within Syria's borders.
When the Assad regime falls, it will be open season on them, on the Alawites, and all the other minorities. Granted, Assad is a monster who has earned an ugly fate. But at what expense should we indulge the fleeting satisfaction of deposing him?
Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/pr...293/story.html
Pappy&Me (09-29-2012)
Both statements are correct. Saddam was a dictator. Assad of Syria is a genocidal lunatic who needs a slow painful death.Originally Posted by katsung47
GanjaFreebird (03-29-2012)
katsung47, do you think the zionists at AIPAC intentionally force-fed Bush and OBama foreign policy they knew would result in the persecution of Christians?
Why do you give a shit anyways, you're Jewish.
IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT ONE'S ETHNICITY IS. ONE HAS A DUTY TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST RACISM. SO FLUCK THE ZIONIST REGIME!
Of course, but then why do you hate Blacks, Mexicans and Jews (other than yourself, of course
Why don't you speak out against Arabs' racism against Jews and Blacks, or White people's racism against Blacks then?ONE HAS A DUTY TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST RACISM.
Funny. It seems to be the propaganda for your master. What US brought to the Iraqis? Iraq is now the world’s fourth-most-corrupt country and by far the worst in the Middle East. That's what an US asset politician in Iraq says.
How the U.S. and the world can help Iraq
By Ayad Allawi, Published: August 31
“More than eight years after Saddam Hussein’s regime was overthrown, basic services are in a woeful state: Most of the country has only a few hours of electricity a day. Blackouts were increasingly common this summer.
“Oil exports, still Iraq’s only source of income, are barely more than they were when Hussein was toppled. The government has squandered the boon of high oil prices and failed to create real and sustainable job growth. Iraq’s economy has become an ever more dysfunctional mix of cronyism and mismanagement, with high unemployment and endemic corruption.
“Transparency International ranks Iraq the world’s fourth-most-corrupt country and by far the worst in the Middle East. The promise of improved security has been empty, with sectarianism on the rise.”
False Promises
Allawi also cites the false promises of democracy:
“Despite failing to win the most seats in last year’s elections, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki clung to power through a combination of Iranian support and U.S. compliance. He now shows an alarming disregard for democratic principles and the rule of law.
“Vital independent institutions such as the election commission, the transparency commission and Iraq’s central bank have been ordered to report directly to the office of the prime minister. Meanwhile, Maliki refuses to appoint consensus candidates as defense and interior ministers, as per last year’s power-sharing agreement.
“The government is using blatant dictatorial tactics and intimidation to quell opposition, ignoring the most basic human rights. Human Rights Watch reported in February on secret torture prisons under Maliki’s authority.
“In June, it exposed the government’s use of hired thugs to beat, stab and even sexually assault peaceful demonstrators in Baghdad who were complaining about corruption and poor services. These horrors are reminiscent of autocratic responses to demonstrations by failing regimes elsewhere in the region, and a far cry from the freedom and democracy promised in the new Iraq.
“Is this really what the United States sacrificed more than 4,000 young men and women, and hundreds of billions of dollars, to build? The trend of failure is becoming irreversible.”
So what is going on here? How can the U.S. media hail Petraeus’s “successful surge” and write about “victory at last” in Iraq when it appears that the Bush-Cheney-neocon intervention has created what amounts to a failed state in Iraq?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...xsJ_story.html
Propaganda for your master. US war on Iraq makes living worse than had been under dictator Saddam. Does that mean US is worse than dictator?
Iraq: Worse for Christians Now Than under Saddam Hussein
Michael Ireland, Chief Correspondent, ASSIST News Service
Tuesday, July 01, 2008
July 2, 2008
BAGHDAD (ANS) -- The Reverend Canon Andrew White, affectionately known as The Vicar of Baghdad, says the situation for Christians in Iraq is "clearly worse" than under the Saddam Hussein regime, toppled by US and Coalition forces in 2003.
In a segment of the CBS news program 60 Minutes, originally broadcast on Dec. 2, 2007, updated June 26 and aired on June 29, 2008, correspondent Scott Pelley asked Canon White: "You were here during Saddam’s reign. And now after. Which was better? Which was worse?"
"The situation now is clearly worse” than under Saddam, White replied.
"There’s no comparison between Iraq now and then," he told Pelley. "Things are the most difficult they have ever been for Christians. Probably ever in history. They’ve never known it like now."
http://www.crosswalk.com/news/religi...-11578523.html
Propaganda for your master? It's worse under US occupation.
There were churches in Afghan before US invasion. None is left 10 years after US occupied Afghan. Be noticed that this news indirectly(may be the news agency is afraid of being called "unpatriot"?) related this to US foreign policy.
Not a Single Christian Church Left in Afghanistan, Says State Department
By Edwin Mora
October 10, 2011
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(CNSNews.com) -- There is not a single, public Christian church left in Afghanistan, according to the U.S. State Department.
This reflects the state of religious freedom in that country ten years after the United States first invaded it and overthrew its Islamist Taliban regime.
In the intervening decade, U.S. taxpayers have spent $440 billion to support Afghanistan's new government and more than 1,700 U.S. military personnel have died serving in that country.
The last public Christian church in Afghanistan was razed in March 2010, according to the State Department's latest International Religious Freedom Report.
Šñøü†ê® (08-31-2012)
katsung47, you devastated Vader multiple times in this thread.However, that is not saying much since Vader is a mentally ill, mentally retarded retard.
But that is certainly not your fault!
Really? Isn't Vader a member of your team or just another forgery of you? Don't play provocation.katsung47, you devastated Vader multiple times in this thread.
Syrian Christians worry about life after Bashar Assad
They fear civil war and revenge attacks if President Bashar Assad falls, an anxiety fed by the sectarian violence seen in Egypt and Iraq.
Ignatius IV, patriarch of the Greek Orthodox Church, described Syria as an oasis of religious tolerance where Christians can worship freely, build sanctuaries and run schools, activities that are restricted by varying degrees in a number of Middle Eastern countries.
Christian clerics are frequently shown on television taking part in joint prayer services with their Muslim counterparts. The defense minister is a Christian, as are other senior members of the government and security forces.
"Wherever you go, you find Christians and Muslims," said the patriarch, who has a photograph of himself with Assad displayed on his office wall. "There is no distinction."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...,4403703.story
Neegah, please. You know meh better than that! Vader is some kind of troll trying to make a name for himself!
But indeed the Syrian civil war in another effort by AIPAC to stick its foot in!
Patriarch al-Rahi: Syria is Closest to Democracy in Arab World, Needs the Reforms Announced by President al-Assad
Mar 04, 2012
He regretted the violence and destruction taking place in Syria, saying that there are destructive plans in world politics and that the people don't want the extremists who are receiving financial, military and political support from certain countries.
"How can the Arab Spring be a spring when people are killed every day? They talk about Iraq and democracy while a million Christians out of one and a half million were forced to leave Iraq… where is democracy in Iraq?" he asked, saying that this so-called spring is closer to a winter of war, destruction and killing.
"What good is democracy if it wants to kill people and throw away stability?" Patriarch al-Rahi wondered.
http://www.sana.sy/eng/22/2012/03/04/404155.htm
Most Syrians back President Assad, but you'd never know from western media
Assad's popularity, Arab League observers, US military involvement: all distorted in the west's propaganda war
Jonathan Steele guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 17 January 2012
The key finding was that while most Arabs outside Syria feel the president should resign, attitudes in the country are different. Some 55% of Syrians want Assad to stay, motivated by fear of civil war – a spectre that is not theoretical as it is for those who live outside Syria's borders.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...ern-propaganda
If these Christians weren't brainwashed (to be Christian) by their parents in the first place, they'd have a lot less to worry about there. These Christians are victims of brainwashing performed by their parents.
12 April 2012 09:12
Syrian people urge Army not to withdraw under Annan deal
Syrians in Homs have urged the Army not to withdraw from the western city as has been required by a peace plan proposed by the special UN-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan.
According to Press TV, the residents’ opposition to the pullout comes as the international community is pressuring Damascus to implement Annan’s six-point plan.
Under the proposed plan, the Syrian Army must first withdraw its troops from populated areas.
Damascus has criticized Annan for not requiring the same commitment from the armed terrorist groups, who are fighting the government, warning that they would enter cities as soon as the Army gets out.
http://english.irib.ir/news/politica...der-annan-deal
Brainwash? A lot of them came to Syria from Iraq. They saw and felt it.
Raymond Ibrahim: "Christian life in Iraq has been a living hell ever since U.S. forces ousted the late Saddam Hussein in 2003"
In "The Silent Extermination of Iraq's 'Christian Dogs,'" our friend Raymond Ibrahim in FrontPage (via RaymondIbrahim.com), April 19, discusses the rapid deterioration of the situation of Christians in Iraq -- while the world yawns:
Last week an Iraqi Muslim scholar issued a fatwa that, among other barbarities, asserts that "it is permissible to spill the blood of Iraqi Christians." Inciting as the fatwa is, it is also redundant. While last October's Baghdad church attack which killed some sixty Christians is widely known—actually receiving some MSM coverage—the fact is, Christian life in Iraq has been a living hell ever since U.S. forces ousted the late Saddam Hussein in 2003.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/ra...he-late-s.html
America's first marxist in the White House helped the Muslim Bro'hood take over Egypt which lead to the slaughtering Christians there.
Ditto for Libya.
It's sad.
Pappy&Me (10-26-2012)
SYRIA: US-NATO Supported "Opposition" Commits Extensive War Crimes
by Devon DB
Global Research, March 20, 2012
Finally, it should be noted that there are many similarities between the Syrian rebels and the Libyan rebels. The Libyan rebels launched a media propaganda war against Gaddafi, must like how Al Jazeera has lied about the ongoing events in Syria. In addition to this, much like the Syrian rebels, the Libyan rebels also committed war crimes.
While there are those who may be pushing for intervention into Syria, they may want to rethink it the situation in light of this new information. The situation may end up much worse as the Libyan rebels were linked to Al Qaeda and the NTC is now going to enact Sharia law. We should not want the same fate for the people of Syria.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=29867
How the New York Times Avoids Saying That the CIA Is Supporting Terrorists in Syria
Jeremy R. Hammond
June 29, 2012
The armed rebels in Syria carried out several terrorist bombings this week. They detonated a bomb in the parking garage of the Palace of Justice in downtown Damascus. They bombed a police station. They bombed a TV station. All of these are non-military targets. If this was the Taliban conducting such bombings in Afghanistan, the U.S. media would be calling them “terrorist attacks”. But since these terrorists have U.S. backing, they are not “terrorists”, by definition. The only place the word even comes up in the the New York Times article reporting this information is in this paragraph:
Even Mr. Assad, who has often belittled the Syrian insurgency as an insignificant and unpopular movement led by what he calls foreign-backed terrorists, has tacitly acknowledged his opponents’ tenacity, telling the cabinet on Tuesday that the government was engaged in a war.
Assad merely “calls” them “foreign-backed terrorists”. That’s not really what they are, the Times would have you believe. Well, they are terrorists, by definition. And the fact that they are indeed foreign-backed is something the Times doesn’t seem to think is worth mentioning. There’s no mention of the fact that the CIA is coordinating the flow of money and arms to these terrorists, even though this fact is well known and has previously been reported by the Times. Now, why isn’t that worth even a mention in this article, even just a single sentence comment in passing?
http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2012/0...ists-in-syria/
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