GanjaFreebird (04-27-2012)
The global intelligence community has gathered plenty of evidence.Originally Posted by Capricorn
Next, the inernational community has forbidden Iran from developing nuclear weapons technology. As the world's largest state sponsor of anti - israeli terrorism, a nuclear Iran is a mortal threat to Israel's continurf existence.
It's neither bullying nor illegitimate for the Israelies to take the appropriate measures to deal with it.
GanjaFreebird (04-27-2012)
You do not know what you're talking about. Hezbollah fired 54 rockets at Haifa ALONE, killing 16 people.
In total, they fired over three thousand rockets at around 12 Israeli cities, killing more than 40 people.
GanjaFreebird (04-27-2012)
They wouldn't be refusing inspections otherwise.
GanjaFreebird (04-27-2012)
No they haven't. Even the Israeli intelligence denies that claim.
The biggest terror in ME is Israel and the most powerful. There is no evidence of Iran being a threat to Israel or Iran sponsoring terror against Israel. All Israeli lies so that they continue to violate human rights of Palestinians.
Do unto other nations what you would want other nations to do unto us.
Let's not not try to rewrite history. The main reason for Israel's excess force was to force Hezbollah to release the captured soldiers off the Humvee armored vehicle attack.You do not know what you're talking about. Hezbollah fired 54 rockets at Haifa ALONE, killing 16 people.
In total, they fired over three thousand rockets at around 12 Israeli cities, killing more than 40 people.
Do unto other nations what you would want other nations to do unto us.
They are not refusing inspections. They refuse to be harassed unreasonably.
Do unto other nations what you would want other nations to do unto us.
Maintaining their agreed- on duties under NNTP is not harrassment, and the only reason they would refuse them is they are developing illegal nuclear tech. Case closed
GanjaFreebird (04-27-2012)
Forty five people dead and two kidnapped soldiers, plus three thousand plus rockets fired on twelve cities = legitimate casus belli.
GanjaFreebird (04-27-2012)
What is a rocket?
Uhm, you are putting the cart before the horse.
Do unto other nations what you would want other nations to do unto us.
Evidence?
GanjaFreebird (04-27-2012), Šñøü†ê® (04-26-2012)
I always provide evidence and backed up with links.
All neutral news accounts point to Hezbollah rockets aimed at military targets as diversion tactics and Israel's reason for war was to release the soldiers captured. The excessive show of force also left 1200 Lebanese citizens dead.
Where is the evidence to your baseless narratives?
Lets start with:
1. That Iran has a nuclear weapons program.
2. If they decide to go with a nuclear weapon program, why would it be illegal? If it is illegal, then what makes Israel's 200 plus nukes legitimate.
3. What gives a war loving nation like Israel the right to attack Iran?
4. What gives Israel the right to murder scientists andf their families?
5. Why does Israel have so many human right violations?
Last edited by Capricorn; 04-26-2012 at 06:28 PM.
Do unto other nations what you would want other nations to do unto us.
Šñøü†ê® (04-26-2012)
Hezbollah deliberately provoked Israel into acting, and intentionally acted to inflate civilian losses by stationing themselves in highly populated areas
GanjaFreebird (04-27-2012)
[QUOTE=Capricorn;2277290]
1. That Iran has a nuclear weapons program.[\QUOTE]
Already cited in an article previously posted. The opinion of the global intelligence community is Iran is clearly developing ENR capabilities, as indicated by their failure to maintain inspection compliance
[QUOTE]2. If they decide to go with a nuclear weapon program, why would it be illegal? [\QUOTE]
Because they 're a NNPT signatory, and developing a weapons program or enrichment is a violation of the treaty.
[QUOTE] it is illegal, then what makes Israel's 200 plus nukes legitimate.[\QUOTE]
Israel is not a signatory, and its arsenal was developed long before before the NNPT took effect in 1970
[QUOTE]3. What gives a war loving nation like Israel the right to attack Iran?[\QUOTE]
One, Israel is one the world's most bitterly war-hating countries, which is why it has never launched an unprovoked war. When its neighbors don't attack it, Israel fights no wars.
Two, a nuclear Iran is a mortal threat to Israel, which it cannot tolerate; and its possession of either nuclear weapons or enrichment technology are grave violations of international law. It chose to sign the NNPT as a non- nuclear weapons state
Iran is the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism, with anti-Israel terrorist groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad on its payroll; and several Iranian leaders have spoken out re: their intention to destroy Israel, by nuclear war, if necessary. Given the severe inherent dangers, Israel would be forced to act, just like it did at Osirak.
[QUOTE]4. What gives Israel the right to murder scientists andf their families?[\QUOTE]
They were military employees advancing Iran's illegal nuclear weapons technology program, and therefore legitimate targets struck for a key military purpose as per the principle of double effect.
It doesn't. It has the absolute best human rights record in the entire region5. Why does Israel have so many human right violations?
GanjaFreebird (04-27-2012)
[QUOTE=Cyclone Ranger;2277300][QUOTE=Capricorn;2277290]
1. That Iran has a nuclear weapons program.[\QUOTE]
Already cited in an article previously posted. The opinion of the global intelligence community is Iran is clearly developing ENR capabilities, as indicated by their failure to maintain inspection compliance
[QUOTE]2. If they decide to go with a nuclear weapon program, why would it be illegal? [\QUOTE]
Because they 're a NNPT signatory, and developing a weapons program or enrichment is a violation of the treaty.
[QUOTE] it is illegal, then what makes Israel's 200 plus nukes legitimate.[\QUOTE]
Israel is not a signatory, and its arsenal was developed long before before the NNPT took effect in 1970
[QUOTE]3. What gives a war loving nation like Israel the right to attack Iran?[\QUOTE]
One, Israel is one the world's most bitterly war-hating countries, which is why it has never launched an unprovoked war. When its neighbors don't attack it, Israel fights no wars.
Two, a nuclear Iran is a mortal threat to Israel, which it cannot tolerate; and its possession of either nuclear weapons or enrichment technology are grave violations of international law. It chose to sign the NNPT as a non- nuclear weapons state
Iran is the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism, with anti-Israel terrorist groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad on its payroll; and several Iranian leaders have spoken out re: their intention to destroy Israel, by nuclear war, if necessary. Given the severe inherent dangers, Israel would be forced to act, just like it did at Osirak.
Sorry, you lost me at the first one itself. The international community has an "opinion"? Where is the evidence?4. What gives Israel the right to murder scientists andf their families?[\QUOTE]
They were military employees advancing Iran's illegal nuclear weapons technology program, and therefore legitimate targets struck for a key military purpose as per the principle of double effect.
It doesn't. It has the absolute best human rights record in the entire region
Also, if Iran backs out of NPT, then it would be OK for them to make nuclear weapons, correct? Would Israel still have an aggression against Iran if they do so?
If Iran was making weapons, would it not be easy for them to just back out of the treaty and tell the world they have no business in interfering with them?
The biggest terrorist nation in the world is Israel thanks to IDF and Mossad. It has its roots in terror also. Ask the British.
As for human rights violation, it is always at odd with the international human rights organizations and the international community.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...ories-1.408670
Last edited by Capricorn; 04-26-2012 at 10:24 PM.
Do unto other nations what you would want other nations to do unto us.
This whole business of Israel's warmongering on fabricated propaganda against Iran is to divert the attention of the international community on its perpetual land grabbing and maintaining an apartheid state.
Israel's strategy to seize Jerusalem on display for all to see
By now, news of Palestinian being evicted from their homes in East Jerusalem is routine. Last week, two more Palestinian families were thrown into the street to make way for Jewish settlers in the neighbourhood of Beit Hanina. The mechanism of land confiscation in East Jerusalem and the West Bank has become a near science for Israeli authorities, ensuring that the exact borders of Israel remain unclear and constantly shifting.
Do unto other nations what you would want other nations to do unto us.
http://www.israeli-occupation.org/20...-israeli-army/
Conscientious objector Noam Gur sentenced to prison for her refusal to join the Israeli Army
In her refusal declaration Noam wrote: “I refuse to join an army that has, since it was established, been engaged in dominating another nation, in plundering and terrorizing a civilian population that is under its control.”
Do unto other nations what you would want other nations to do unto us.
Sorry, another Israeli lie. There is no evidence. And also Iran is fundamentalist Shia (the government), Hamas and IJ are fundamentalist Sunni.
The whole case of Israel's desire to attack Iran is based on one lie after another.
Do unto other nations what you would want other nations to do unto us.
Israel is inspiring Muslim terrorists to murder EVEN MORE dangerous Muslim terrorists who are trying to make nukes for Iran, so what's wrong with this, again?God bless them for doing that!
So? That's terrorists, no civilians, genius.
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