Hundreds of Israelis march in Tel Aviv to protest war with Iran

[Cyclone Ranger]

The issue for the zionists is based on lies. Zionism is a combination of Nazism and sneaky American Imperialism; how the federal government genocided the native Americans. The problem is the zionists are doing it in the modern age. So they are cautious. But since their lobby groups control most of the MSM, they are doing fine...

More of your lies.

[GanjaFreebird]

Well that's a bit lazy of you. If you want to be fair, you have to replicate all the circumstances of Israel and Palestinians in your make-believe USA Canda relationship, not just the offenses of the Palestinians.

I don't see Native-Americans blowing up themselves on American buses or in American restaurant either, and mind you, America belongs to them WAYYYYYYYY more than Israel/Palestine belongs to the Palestinians, any day of the week, since unlike the Jews who lived in Israel for thousand of years, White people moved there after the Indians have been there for thousands of years and stole their land without any kind of historical/religious/cultural roots in America whatsoever, while Israel always had a Jewish population and it belonged to the Jewish people many years ago too.

There's no excuse for what the Palestinians are doing, especially since Israel agreed to a 2-state solution.

You too Ganja, for thanking his post. I mean you know damn well the situation is WAY more complex than that. You may wish it were simpler. Damn, I wish it were simpler too.

I hear you, but it is "simple" in a different way, all it would take the Palestinians is to recognize pre-1967 Israel as a Jewish state, which is something that you and I agree they should do. Until they do it, and give up on "refugees return", Israel has no other option but to treat them as an enemy and refuse to give them anything, because if Israel can't be guaranteed security, it will not be compromising on any land, and it really couldn't, for its own safety.

[GanjaFreebird]

The zionists are more than "lazy." They are INSANE and butthurt. It is really that simple.

Oh shut the fuck up, the only insane and butthurt person here is YOU.

[GanjaFreebird]

The issue for the zionists is based on lies. Zionism is a combination of Nazism and sneaky American Imperialism;

That's bullshit and you know it. If Zionism is based on lies, Nazism and imperialism, then so is Arab nationalism (including Palestinian as well), as Islam is no less based on "lies" that Judaism or any other religion, the Arabs used to be on the Nazis side during WWII, and they have been a part of imperialism in Asia and Africa for over a thousand years by now, so FUCK you and FUCK your shameless hypocrisy.

[Vader]

^Why can't you crazies handle the truth! YOU WERE LIED TO AND YOU BELIEVED THE LIE LIKE A SAP! NOW YOU JUST ACT CRAZY! ACCEPT REALITY IT AND MOVE ON YOU BUTTHURT 'TARD!

A republican sellout talking about lies is the pot calling the kettle black. You fail... again.

[GanjaFreebird]

A republican sellout talking about lies is the pot calling the kettle black. You fail... again.

[Capricorn]

Both parties are technically more left-wing than the Democrats in America, as far as the economy and social issues are concerned. The Israelis have had enough with their barbaric enemies, that's the thing, and you can't blame them. Americans wouldn't tolerate even 10% of that shit.

That is because most Israelis are liberals hence the domestic policies are more socialistic than in US. But it stinks of authoritarian rightwingism when it comes to overmilitarization and treatment of Palestinians. Dehumanizing other humans based on ethnicity or religion is a rightwing trait.

But do unto other nations as you would like other nations do unto you.

[GanjaFreebird]

That is because most Israelis are liberals hence the domestic policies are more socialistic than in US.

But do unto other nations as you would like other nations do unto.

What "nations"? The ones that have been attacking us from all sides for the last 65 year and murdering our women and children?

[Capricorn]

What "nations"? The ones that have been attacking us from all sides for the last 65 year and murdering our women and children?

Hyperbole. Israel has been wreaking state terror through IDF and Mossad too. Both sides are guilty. Just that Israel has a more sophisticated propaganda apparatus.

[GanjaFreebird]

Hyperbole. Israel has been wreaking state terror through IDF and Mossad too. Both sides are guilty. Just that Israel has a more sophisticated propaganda apparatus.

The Palestinians need to accept Israel as a Jewish state on 1967 borders, give up on "refugees return", get their own state in the West Bank and Gaza, and they wouldn't have to deal with any of that. They are the ones who chose war and violence, NOT us, we want peace.

[Guido]

I'm not Kamandi.

Do you realize that if you devoted about one-quarter of the time you spend pretending either to be someone Very Important, and then, after being exposed as a Nobody -- if you spend one-quarter of that time actually doing something, like getting a job, getting a date, going out of your apartment and walking around, trying to make a friend, playing Bingo, if you did something like that, you could just be yourself instead of making up a fake identity?

[Cyclone Ranger]

Hyperbole. Israel has been wreaking state terror through IDF and Mossad too. Both sides are guilty. Just that Israel has a more sophisticated propaganda apparatus.

No, they haven't. They've simply been defending themselves.

[Cyclone Ranger]

*yawn*

I used to be someone "very important," a senior partner at a good-sized law firm, and an occasional law professor.

Then, I got old and sick, and I retired. Now, I'm winding down my life doing things I enjoy, like drinking scotch, playing bridge, listening to the Rat Pack, hanging out with my wife, spending time with my grandkids, and arguing about politics online.

It's a consummation devoutly to be wished. Too bad more people don't follow my example, instead of spending all their time arguing about who I am.

[Cyclone Ranger]

That is because most Israelis are liberals hence the domestic policies are more socialistic than in US. But it stinks of authoritarian rightwingism when it comes to overmilitarization and treatment of Palestinians. Dehumanizing other humans based on ethnicity or religion is a rightwing trait.

Right, the only country in the entire region that offers the Palestinians civil rights, equal to those of the majority, to such an extent that many Palestinian-Israelis have gone on record as saying they plan to remain part of Israel in the event of the creation of a Palestinian state, is terribly mistreating the Palestinians.

Even though, as prominent a pro-Palestinian as Jimmy Carter has said there is no apartheid within Israel. Right.

[Capricorn]

No, they haven't. They've simply been defending themselves.

Land grabbing, human rights violations, hiding behind a superpower sugar daddy, finding excuses to war with other nations in the region, issueing threats of attacking a nation based on lies and propaganda, please...self defense? More like a regional bully with better advertising strategy than the crude Arabs IMO.

[Cyclone Ranger]

Land-grabbing? All they've done recently is return the entire Gaza to the Palestinians.

Human rights violations? Bullshit. Don't see the evidence.

Finding excuses for wars? Like what? You mean, because Hezbollah was raining down rockets on civilian populations? Sounds like a good excuse.

In other words, the Israelis have not done any unprovoked bullying, period.

[kellyb]

Bump.

This is the heart of this.

And I'm fucking crying again.

[kellyb]

That's because if they stop Israel will be invaded and destroyed by the mindless islameic ape hordes. Israel's posture is required for survival. If you lived there, you would see clearly what those people live with. The apes must be kept in check... PERIOD.'

Again ... Apes = terrorists and their supporters/sympathizers.

And there you go again, becoming a creature much worse than the evil you pretend to oppose. People are not apes outside of biology in the sense that we're all primates.

Only rightwing war-wongerers don't see that humans are always human. You are behaving here like perfect proof that what little is left of the Left has been completely overtaken and infiltrated by the "RepubliNazis."

Sane, civilized people know that humans are still human, even when they're the enemy. Even when they're doing really bad things. Only the Nazi mindset deprives people of humanity.

[kellyb]

Fascism/force/power always wins. Is that what the Jewish power elite learned from WWII?

Don't you guys think it's even a little weird that you're cheering on the guy with the swastika avatar? It's not a coincidence.

[Cyclone Ranger]

Hyperbole. Israel has been wreaking state terror through IDF and Mossad too.

Evidence? The Israelis fire when they're fired upon.