Anyway, this is becoming absurd. What's next, stating someone is being irrational for objecting to being tortured or false accused of a capital crime and put on death row? Would anyone actually assert that, in a real life situation? Uh, no.
This is one of the many problems with moral subjectivism. It goes against reality. It doesn't match up with what happens in every day life. You can try to defend it in a purely theoretical way, but it falls apart if you try to act it out in the real world around us.
I disagree, but let's move forward here.Also irrational but natural if you logically don't really believe in free will.
I don't want to accuse you of intellectual dishonesty. I just find it hard to believe that you really think everyone in the world is being irrational for objecting to being wronged. Maybe you need to think about that a bit more.I do.
What's your point? If moral subjectivism is true, then you can't object OR morally blame anyone.Objecting and morally blaming aren't the same thing.
To be clear, I wasn't claiming that moral subjectivists in particular are out there doing bad things. btw, most people in the world probably don't think about these 'viewpoints' as much as you and I do. But I do believe that when the viewpoint of subjectivism is taken to its logical end, it is bad news for everyone. It can lead to all sorts of things, if people actually do believe it and practice it. (Thankfully, even among the people who do believe it, most don't act as if they do.)Just...no. It's not the naturalists (philosophical naturalism) out there doing bad things or refusing to do things to help people. We still have a conscience and morality. We're quite good at being good people and working to make people's lives better. We just come at it all from a different set of beliefs/suspicions about how the world works.
I don't know how many people agree with him, but the better question is - if people like him get in power, do you think they be guided by their ideas? And does it matter how many people disagree? Someone like him is dangerous, and it's that same "textbook" mindset taken to the extreme, to the point of absurdity (or insanity).And how many people agree with him? That's like me bringing up the Westboro people.
If I knew for sure that it was going to be instant and not hurt, I think I'd be able to just close my eyes, remind myself of that and think about the positive (what is on the other side). But I can't say for sure, not being in that situation.Me, too. I'm not scared of being dead at all.
But, if you knew you were going to die in 5 minutes from, say, an electric shock execution (assuming it was 100% certain that it wouldn't hurt at all and would be instant) painlessly...you'd still be scared, right? Possibly or probably?