Government propaganda should be banned.
Yes, our Attorney General, before he was Attorney General.
I think this confirms he's a big supporter of the 2nd Amendment.
Holder was addressing the Woman's National Democratic Club. In his remarks, broadcast by CSPAN 2, he explained that he intended to use anti-smoking campaigns as his model to "change the hearts and minds of people in Washington, DC" about guns.
"What we need to do is change the way in which people think about guns, especially young people, and make it something that's not cool, that it's not acceptable, it's not hip to carry a gun anymore, in the way in which we changed our attitudes about cigarettes."
Holder added that he had asked advertising agencies in the nation's capital to assist by making anti-gun ads rather than commercials "that make me buy things that I don't really need." He had also approached local newspapers and television stations, he said, asking them to devote prime space and time, respectively, to his anti-gun campaign.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...ike-Cigarettes
Originally Posted by Cyclown Ranger
Government propaganda should be banned.
Powerboss (03-19-2012), soylentgreen (03-19-2012)
I personally don't see anything wrong with what Holder said. He's directing this towards inner city kids. Nothing wrong with brainwashing kids that guns aren't cool, because they aren't. They're deadly weapons that children should have NOTHING to do with. Powerboss, of course, extremist rightist that he is, thinks kids should love and worship guns. Powerboss loves it when kids kill each other with guns.
optimus (03-19-2012), soylentgreen (03-19-2012)
It's also illegal for kids to buy or smoke cigarettes, but a lot of them think it's cool.
Not that Holder isn't a gun-grabbing, brainwashing douchebag from Hades; I just don't think legality is the issue here.
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On the contrary, guns are very cool and if it weren't for them, you'd still be living under British rule. Why are you so afraid of guns Optimus? Why are you such a complete pussy? Your blaming guns for kids killing each other only demonstrates your complete ignorance, stupidity, and inability to think beyond a single emotional reaction.
Optimus displays the typical leftist mindset in that Government should propagandize it's citizens because after all, Government knows best. Fucking Pathetic Drone...
Originally Posted by Cyclown Ranger
big steve (03-19-2012), Little-Acorn (03-19-2012)
You're amazing, Powerboss!
BooRadley (03-19-2012)
I think it is interesting that programs such as the NRA's "Eddie Eagle" are constantly attacked by liberals...when all they're doing is trying to tell kids that guns are dangrous and if you see one or find one, you should tell an adult.
When he says we need to have an "anti-gun" message every day in every school...that's pretty fucked up. I'm also not too keen on the word "brainwashing".
"A Liberal is a person who will give away everything they don't own."
"All that stuff I was taught about evolution, embryology, Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell [the bible] teaches us how to run all our public policy and everything in society." Rep. Paul Broun (R)
"I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!" -- Jerry Falwell
optimus (03-19-2012)
Yes, and this alone will prevent kids from carrying guns. Oh wait, that's WRONG. Present your ideas for reducing the number of kids carrying guns in schools or their neighborhoods. It is a serious problem. If you believe it is NOT a serious problem, present your argument.
Stupid propaganda tricks aside (Holder might be one to pay the same assclowns who do the anti-tobacco campaigns for kids), it needs to be addressed. I would go the local route, getting small documentaries in schools about local kids who packed heat, and serious consequences resulted. Alternatives to packing are discussed in the film and in class. Could be produced with an internship for college students getting degrees in journalism.
I think guns are cool from a mechanical engineering standpoints. I thinks gun are fun at shooting at inanimate objects or when you can trick a semi auto into behaving like a full auto. I think in the latter sense that they're "cool" in that way but definitely uncool in a hip hop, ghetto, Hollywood or video massacre kind of way. Youth are very easily manipulated. In southern rural areas guns are a way of life. Cool never enters the conversation, but it's just the way things are. I think both sides of this argument are being dishonest.
kellyb (03-19-2012)
big steve (03-19-2012)
ROFL. My 10 year old and 12 year old both know how to handle and fire a weapon. I take them to the gun range and teach them gun safety and the proper protocols when handling a weapon. We have a great time! Oh no!! Does that scare you Optimus? Why do you have a problem with that?
And yet once again, Optimus shows his true Totalitarian, Statist streak as he proposes calling the Government to come get me.....just because....
Good thing you're a faggot, Optimus, and we know you won't be spreading your defective DNA any further. Oh, you'll be pleased to know I don't expose them to flaming dick-smoking faggots like you.
You'll never convince cowards like Optimus that is a better way of dealing with the reality of firearms than telling them "it's not cool!". Interesting how these same leftists want to "educate" these young kids on how to have sex and give them birth control yet can't fathom teaching kids about responsible gun safety.
The thing is, you think you are funny but you're not.
Absolutely. It's because of the liberal welfare state that idiots like Optimus and BooRadley support that has caused inner city kids to not have dads and instead join gangs and murder one another. What do they propose? Reforming welfare? Reforming the justice system to put these repetitive criminals away? Naw, the thought of actually using common sense abhors them. Slogans like "guns aren't cool" are the ticket. Yep. That will solve it.
That combined with cool, catchy slogans like "guns aren't cool" will do the trick.
Losers....
Originally Posted by Cyclown Ranger
big steve (03-19-2012)
The fact that holder said this 17 years ago or there is nothing technically wrong with is statements are not proof that he doesn't have an agenda to take our guns. He's already made that intent perfectly clear in his more recent statements and actions on the subject.
Probably the stupidest assessment of the cause of inner city degradation that I've ever heard. Get food from WIC and that forces you to join a gang and become a murderer. That would only make sense in the nightmare of confusion and insanity that must be PBs world.
Well, you're solution is even more stupid and shortsighted. Congratulations, you've beaten yourself at being stupid.
You see, this is the other half the problem. Now, I don't expect people like PB to have any concept of what the problem is, or how to fix it, but the liberals -- who ought to know what the problem is -- focus on the guns, rather than the socio-economic decay and the insanely stupid drug laws. I don't expect right-wing jackasses to get that, they don't get anything that doesn't fit on a bumper sticker, but I do expect liberals to get that . . . yet they keep blaming the guns. Their solution is just as fucking retarded as PBs. It's amazing.
"All that stuff I was taught about evolution, embryology, Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell [the bible] teaches us how to run all our public policy and everything in society." Rep. Paul Broun (R)
"I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!" -- Jerry Falwell
kellyb (03-19-2012)
We have varmints, criminals, and other garbage out here in the AZ desert. We have 2 cops for an area 30 miles X guessing 20 miles. Optimus believes that I can call the cops and they'll be here to save the day! I don't. There is nothing dishonest about any of my arguments, I believe in the right to defend oneself if their life is threatened. I believe that anyone who desires to learn about weapons, should have that right to do so and that includes responsible kids with adult supervision.
Totalitarian fags like Optimus don't share that belief and instead would rather focus on the word "cool" rather than actually debate the topic he clearly knows nothing about. It's also very evident that he has never seen much of America and is limited to the West Coast-California-Gay-Culture.
Originally Posted by Cyclown Ranger
big steve (03-19-2012)
And yet again, BooRadley has to make up an argument, say I made that argument, then argue against it.
Good work.
What has caused this decay? Liberal policies (Welfare instead of a working dad in the house)? Feminism that has argued that kids don't need a father in the house? Culture, that anyone dares criticize is labeled a racist by assholes like you, Jackson, and Sharpton, and the Conga line of freaks on MSNBC? Inner city decay is directly traceable to liberal policies. Own up to it moron.Well, you're solution is even more stupid and shortsighted. Congratulations, you've beaten yourself at being stupid.
You see, this is the other half the problem. Now, I don't expect people like PB to have any concept of what the problem is, or how to fix it, but the liberals -- who ought to know what the problem is -- focus on the guns, rather than the socio-economic decay and the insanely stupid drug laws. I don't expect right-wing jackasses to get that, they don't get anything that doesn't fit on a bumper sticker, but I do expect liberals to get that . . . yet they keep blaming the guns. Their solution is just as fucking retarded as PBs. It's amazing.
Originally Posted by Cyclown Ranger
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