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To say nothing of the reality that no other religions have so many prophecies fulfilled in one man with such specificity, even down to when He would be revealed as Messiah.Originally Posted by lily
Again, not seeing these "great lengths".
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The same shepherd that protects the flock leads them to the slaughterhouse.
To say nothing of the reality that no other religions have so many prophecies fulfilled in one man with such specificity, even down to when He would be revealed as Messiah.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
People have made it their life's work, with evangelistic zeal.Again, not seeing these "great lengths".
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
You have an odd sense of "reality".
I represent the angry, gun toting meat eating people. ~ Denis Leary
The same shepherd that protects the flock leads them to the slaughterhouse.
No it wasn't. The Christian religion was slowly dying until Jesus and the devil was unveiled.
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Hog wash! Matthew 10:22-23 didn't happen. Matthew 16:27-28 and Mark 9:1 and Luke 9:27 also were prophecies that went unfulfilled. Matthew 26:62-64 and Mark 14:60-62 says Jesus informs a high priest that he will personally witness his imminent return while the high priest was still alive.
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Well, since Christianity BEGAN with Jesus, it could hardly be slowly dying BEFORE Him, now could it?
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
That's a head scratcher, since I was referring to the OT Messianic prophecies that were fulfilled in Jesus. We can talk about your misunderstanding of the others later if you want.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
Which other one did?You have an odd sense of "reality".
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
:sigh:
I won't play the multiple choice religion game. Sorry.
I represent the angry, gun toting meat eating people. ~ Denis Leary
The same shepherd that protects the flock leads them to the slaughterhouse.
So, you really don't have any examples of other religions that made specific prophecies for well over a thousand years that were all fulfilled in one man? Your post was just a kneejerk reaction?:sigh:
I won't play the multiple choice religion game. Sorry.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
No, my post was a snarky observation about you referring to ancient prophecies that were fulfilled by a book written after the fact as "reality".
I represent the angry, gun toting meat eating people. ~ Denis Leary
The same shepherd that protects the flock leads them to the slaughterhouse.
The book of Isaiah was most certainly NOT written after the fact. Check into it before you spout that line, and check with CR to see if the OT books of Daniel or the Psalms, for example, were written before or after Jesus. That line of thinking will eventually lead you to claim that the OT was written after the NT, which is clearly ridiculous. Jesus even quoted from the OT, as did every Jewish scholar of his day.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
:facepalm:
I represent the angry, gun toting meat eating people. ~ Denis Leary
The same shepherd that protects the flock leads them to the slaughterhouse.
Do I really have to start pulling out all those OT prophecies regarding Jesus Christ? I will be very happy to do so, because it seems that you either don't have any knowledge of them or are choosing to remain ignorant of them.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
Open question for any Jewish scholar on the board. Were the OT books written before or after Jesus walked the earth in human form? There seems to be some confusion on the matter. I would have thought the Dead Sea Scrolls would have settled it, but hey, chime in.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
I think his point is that the NT was written quite a while after Jesus died and "facts" fitting OT prophesies could have been inserted into the narrative.
Someone is paying attention. The whole thread is a debate on wether or not Jesus existed at all so I think its interesting to make the leap that not only did he exist, but fulfilled ancient prophecies.
I represent the angry, gun toting meat eating people. ~ Denis Leary
The same shepherd that protects the flock leads them to the slaughterhouse.
We know he existed because he fulfilled OT prophesies.
Everyone on this thread needs to read the book, 'The Case for Christ' by Lee Strobel. It addresses just about every misconception or objection put forth by nonbelievers when it comes to Christianity. And the hardcore atheists like antiquity really need to stop getting all their information from zealous, Christianity-hating antitheist sites like infidels.org and the like.
That is all.
And if you want it, come and get it... for crying out loud!
'cause this love that he has given you was never in doubt.
Let go of your heart, let go of your head and feel it now.
Let go of your heart, let go of your head, feel it now...
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