If Dick Tator was here we'd already have a picture of a "big time Jewish Pharisee". Maybe I am sad he's gone.
It's this thing called the 'truth'...Originally Posted by hadit
Show us not the aim without the way, for ends and means on earth are so entangled
That changing one, you change the other too; each different path brings other ends in view
You are right, there were many things written about Jesus, but unfortunately many years after the fact and a lot of it is simply not true or unsubstantiated.
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That is an absurd excuse.
In a letter to the Galatians, Paul wrote that he met Peter and James on the road to Jerusalem but in that meeting no mention of Jesus by either to Paul. I find that extremely strange. One would think James and Peter being disciples of Jesus would want to spread Jesus' word to Paul.
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optimus (03-13-2012)
Ah, but the church could. Why? To pull together believers to a slowly dying movement. Other words to prop up their ratings.
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Okay, throw out the names of these people and when they wrote about Jesus? The fact reminds that Paul was the first to mention a 'Jesus' and even that is in dispute by biblical scholars.Jesus was written about by a number of people. In addition to those extra-biblical sources, he is also talked about in the Koran and the Talmud.
I think that denying Jesus ever existed is a desperate attempt by hard-core antitheists (I didn't say atheists, because not all atheists are antitheists) to get rid of the most influential person who ever lived.
Why, because then they don't have to deal with the "Liar, Lunatic or Lord?" question that was brought up by C.S Lewis. It would make life easier for them.
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Remember the axiom of big government bureaucrats: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. When, finally, under the crushing weight of taxes and regulation, it stops moving, subsidize it. Going Postal
And...we haven't talked about all the similarities of the life of Jesus and other historical "gods," such as Dionysus, Mithras, Horus, etc. Themes of eating the body of a god, dying and resurrecting, being born of a virgin mother and so on were not unique to Jesus. It's almost as if the writers of the gospel just blatantly ripped off themes from other mythologies.
Its basically understood that almost all of the things that was written in the Bible were taken from others religions and mythical stories long before Christianity came into existence.
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Remember the axiom of big government bureaucrats: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. When, finally, under the crushing weight of taxes and regulation, it stops moving, subsidize it. Going Postal
Christians might see this as an attack on Christianity, but it's really not. To me it's fascinating.Jesus was written about by a number of people. In addition to those extra-biblical sources, he is also talked about in the Koran and the Talmud.
I think that denying Jesus ever existed is a desperate attempt by hard-core antitheists (I didn't say atheists, because not all atheists are antitheists) to get rid of the most influential person who ever lived.
Why, because then they don't have to deal with the "Liar, Lunatic or Lord?" question that was brought up by C.S Lewis. It would make life easier for them.
The True Core Of The Jesus Myth
Archaix (03-13-2012)
Nonsense. The church is just a collective of human beings with limited human imagination
Are you talking about this passage?
Because if you are, this was AFTER Paul met Jesus on the Damascas road, AFTER Jesus' ascension. Paul by this time was a Christian himself, so how does this in any way equate to Paul not knowing things about Jesus' life?11 I want you to know, brothers and sisters, that the gospel I preached is not of human origin. 12 I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ.
13 For you have heard of my previous way of life in Judaism, how intensely I persecuted the church of God and tried to destroy it. 14 I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people and was extremely zealous for the traditions of my fathers. 15 But when God, who set me apart from my mother’s womb and called me by his grace, was pleased 16 to reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles, my immediate response was not to consult any human being. 17 I did not go up to Jerusalem to see those who were apostles before I was, but I went into Arabia. Later I returned to Damascus.
18 Then after three years, I went up to Jerusalem to get acquainted with Cephas[b] and stayed with him fifteen days. 19 I saw none of the other apostles—only James, the Lord’s brother. 20 I assure you before God that what I am writing you is no lie.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
Have you even READ any of Paul's writings, so as to get an idea of what he WAS writing about?
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
You know this is absolutely true. But to expand the limited human imagination was the introduction of Jesus as the son of God and in the case of the Jews it was Moses and the promise land.
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Remember the axiom of big government bureaucrats: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. When, finally, under the crushing weight of taxes and regulation, it stops moving, subsidize it. Going Postal
What you posted is in dispute as being written by Paul even by Biblical scholars. If you read the entire letter you will notice that part doesn't not have the same flow as the Paul's writings and is believed to have been added years late to justify Paul meeting Jesus.
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Remember the axiom of big government bureaucrats: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. When, finally, under the crushing weight of taxes and regulation, it stops moving, subsidize it. Going Postal
Someone did a thread on that once, and in order to reply to the claims, I did some looking into it. I was amazed that so many of those claims were demonstrably untrue, misleading or completely baseless. I don't know if that thread still exists... and I can't remember who started it, but it wasn't someone who posted here very often.
And if you want it, come and get it... for crying out loud!
'cause this love that he has given you was never in doubt.
Let go of your heart, let go of your head and feel it now.
Let go of your heart, let go of your head, feel it now...
Well, I didn't say "it's an attack on Christianity."I said that hardcore antitheists do it, because wiping Jesus away as if he never existed would make their life a lot easier. Since you mentioned it though, it's true that people have been trying to disprove or destroy Christianity since Day One. Yet the bible remains the #1 book of all time, and the most read, studied and quoted book of all time.
And if you want it, come and get it... for crying out loud!
'cause this love that he has given you was never in doubt.
Let go of your heart, let go of your head and feel it now.
Let go of your heart, let go of your head, feel it now...
Read the following, the similarity are uncanny.
http://www.aldokkan.com/religion/creation.htm
I WILL NOT INSULT YOUR INTELLIGENCE BUT YOUR LACK OF INTELLECT IS FAIR GAME
Remember the axiom of big government bureaucrats: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. When, finally, under the crushing weight of taxes and regulation, it stops moving, subsidize it. Going Postal
Which part is misleading or untrue?
I represent the angry, gun toting meat eating people. ~ Denis Leary
The same shepherd that protects the flock leads them to the slaughterhouse.
I'm sorry. You'll have to make this a grammatical sentence before I can answer it.
Archaix (03-13-2012)
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