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Yes He did. It's telling that so many go to such lengths to try to debunk His very existence.
I remember watching The God Who Wasn't There, (I believe it was called) and it was a documentary that pointed out all the logical impossibilities of the entire story of Jesus. Really interesting.
They made the point that Christianity basically stole all the ideas of Christ from other religions at the time.
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Yes He did. It's telling that so many go to such lengths to try to debunk His very existence.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
How do you know?
Such lengths? Such as...?Originally Posted by hadit
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Documentaries, TV shows and magazine articles every Easter, all trying to debunk His existence. Surely you've noticed them.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
I know. Being totally secular, how do you know ANYONE really existed?
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
No more so than the documentaries, TV shows and oh yeah, Easter trying to prove that he does exist.
I represent the angry, gun toting meat eating people. ~ Denis Leary
The same shepherd that protects the flock leads them to the slaughterhouse.
antiquity (03-12-2012), Archaix (03-13-2012), Going Postal (03-13-2012)
They have this little thing called history...
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The same shepherd that protects the flock leads them to the slaughterhouse.
Archaix (03-13-2012), Cyclone Ranger (03-12-2012)
Interesting topic...but anyone with any knowledge of history knows no one wrote a single word about Jesus during his life time which I find extremely puzzling. All the great miracles he supposedly was behind and no one wrote it down?
But I don't blame Christians for wanting to believe, its all they have.
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Another theory -- Jesus did exist, but he was an "Ancient Alien."
Last edited by optimus; 03-12-2012 at 05:39 PM.
Ah, here's the documentary. The God Who Wasn't There.
I believe he did. I looked it up once, but I don't recall all the details. in short, there were temple records and a very small amount of secular Roman records regarding an historical figure named Jesus. Evidently, there was a Temple Virgin named Mary who was placed with a respectable family of a man named Joseph for care from puberty to marrying age, and from what I could gather, when she was 13 or 14, she got knocked up by a Roman soldier named Pantera, so Joseph had to take ownership of it and marry her. Later the kid turned out to be a little narcissistic and had a loose grasp on reality. After causing his family too much embarrassment, they kicked him out, and the rest is history.
"All that stuff I was taught about evolution, embryology, Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell [the bible] teaches us how to run all our public policy and everything in society." Rep. Paul Broun (R)
"I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!" -- Jerry Falwell
GanjaFreebird (03-13-2012), optimus (03-12-2012)
Which is people writing down things, right? There's stuff written about Jesus. The difference is, some people don't want to believe the stuff about Him.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
Explain the 40 some odd year gap between Jesus' death and when Paul first started writing about him. Explain how Paul wasn't familiar with 90% of the events of Jesus' life.
Paul found a broken cult lying on the ground, picked it up and called it his own.
I dug around on this for a few days once to get an answer for myself. Can't prove it with certainty either way, but based on what there is, the most logical conclusion I could come up with is that there really was a Jesus, and he really did hustle a small group of degenerates, alcoholics and homeless bums who lived in a hobo camp outside of town, and he really did get either hanged or crucified for talking smack to/about the wrong people. The cult broke into several piece, one of which was run by Paul, who never even met Jesus. It was his (Paul) followers who won the prize 200 years later in Nicaea, and their version of Christianity became 'official', and most of the evidence of the rest were burned or confiscated by Rome.
The funny thing is, though, that Muhammad has two full volumes of every detail of his life, and he wasn't even a deity. Jesus was supposed to be God, but we only have a few dozen lines of text from him, and no one knows anything else. I bet there was more and it was burned by Romans.
"All that stuff I was taught about evolution, embryology, Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell [the bible] teaches us how to run all our public policy and everything in society." Rep. Paul Broun (R)
"I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!" -- Jerry Falwell
Lack of any publishing or communications media at the time. Information got around slowly in that era.
GanjaFreebird (03-13-2012), hadit (03-13-2012), jwreck (03-13-2012)
And it got around fast in 70AD?
Within the local Jewish community it probably got around faster. But Paul was a Roman, not a Gallilean Jew.
GanjaFreebird (03-13-2012)
It's also very interesting that Paul only knew of Jesus as a mythical entity. He came to Paul only in "visions." This is ridiculous and an absurd way of documenting a basis for a religion. This is literally no different from how that drunk retard started Mormonism.
Last edited by optimus; 03-12-2012 at 10:01 PM.
None of the other religions have better documentation.
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