People have gotten so used to having their health care paid for by others, that they are piling every last possible thing onto the list of what must be paid for - including contraception, which is needed only in response to voluntary activites, like having premarital sex. They are even insisting that institutions with well-know, centuries-old prohibitions on such things, pay for it... as if they didn't know about the prohibitions when they applied to a private college run by those institutions.
Commentator Rush Limbaugh mentioned this on one of his shows, and people are screaming in outrage. But they aren't screaming at the girls , either for having so much sex or for insisting that Catholic schools violate their longstanding standards to pay for it anyway for them. They are screaming at Limbaugh for pointing all this out, and for (correctly) calling the girls "sluts".
The craziness goes on and on. How long will it be before students start demanding that a school training firefighters, stock and pay for extra-large fire extinguishers to make it easier to cope with the students' funloving habit of setting the dormitory curtains on fire several times a week?
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http://hotair.com/archives/2012/02/2...birth-control/
Georgetown co-ed: Please pay for us to have sex … We’re going broke buying birth control
by Tina Korbe
posted at 1:55 pm on February 28, 2012
At a hearing of the House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee yesterday, a single witness — Georgetown law student and “reproductive rights activist” Sandra Fluke — told sympathetic policy-makers that the administration’s so-called contraception mandate should stand … because her peers are going broke buying birth control.
“Forty percent of the female students at Georgetown Law reported to us that they struggled financially as a result of this policy (Georgetown student insurance not covering contraception),” Fluke reported.
It costs a female student $3,000 to have protected sex over the course of her three-year stint in law school, according to her calculations.
“Without insurance coverage, contraception, as you know, can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school,” Fluke told the hearing.
Craig Bannister at CNSNews.com did the math — and discovered that these co-eds, assuming they’re using the cheapest possible contraception, must be having sex about three times a day every day to incur that kind of expense. What Fluke is arguing, then, is that her fellow law students have a right to consequence-free sex whenever, wherever. Why, exactly, especially if it costs other people something? When I can’t pay for something, I do without it. Fortunately, in the case of contraception, women can make lifestyle choices that render it unnecessary.
At one point, Fluke mentions a friend who felt “embarrassed and powerless” when she learned her insurance didn’t cover contraception. Can you imagine how proud and empowered that same friend would be if she learned she has the ability to resist her own sexual urges? We can only assume she doesn’t know that because Fluke and she both labor under the illusion that contraception is a medical necessity.
Some little part of Fluke must recognize that it’s not … because she sought to bolster her argument with an example of an illness in which contraception might be a medically necessary treatment. Another friend of hers, she said, has polycystic ovarian syndrome, for which contraception is a common treatment. Some insurance programs that don’t cover contraception normally would nevertheless cover it as a treatment for PCOS — but other insurance programs wouldn’t. Fluke makes it sound like contraception is the only treatment for PCOS. In fact, it isn’t — and contraception is prescribed as a treatment only when the woman also wants to contracept. Fluke says her friend is a lesbian — and so wouldn’t need contraception. Why didn’t she opt for any of the other treatments, then?
At the end of her testimony, Fluke spoke in strong language of her resentment of university administrators and others who suggest she should have chosen to attend a different university that would have offered student insurance that does cover contraception — even if that other university wasn’t quite as prestigious as Georgetown.
“We refuse to pick between a quality education and our health and we resent that, in the 21st Century, anyone thinks it’s acceptable to ask us to make that choice simply because we are women,” Fluke said.
Ms. Fluke, I resent that you think women are incapable of controlling themselves, of sacrificing temporary pleasure for the sake of long-term success. You make us sound like animals, slaves to our instincts and able to be used, but we’re better than that. We’re persons, equal to men in dignity and love.
"The social contract exists so that everyone doesn’t have to squat in the dust holding a spear to protect his woman and his meat all day every day. It does not exist so that the government can take your spear, your meat, and your woman because it knows better what to do with them." - Instapundit.com
BTW, I vaguely recall from a lecture my Dad gave me when I was 12, that it takes two to tango. (Not his exact words, he was an OB/GYN and had plenty of exact words).
Why is this woman not complaining to the men these coeds are having sex with, and asking THEM to help out with the costs (and maybe even with the responsibility) that goes with it?
Where I come from, you have to pay to play... no matter which team you play for.
"The social contract exists so that everyone doesn’t have to squat in the dust holding a spear to protect his woman and his meat all day every day. It does not exist so that the government can take your spear, your meat, and your woman because it knows better what to do with them." - Instapundit.com
caddis (03-06-2012)
Because we women get blamed for everything. We're the "sluts" for having sex, and the ones who are blamed 100% for pregnancy.
It's a double standard that really makes me mad.
Men "don't like condoms", so they will use every reason/excuse not to wear them. Sorry. Wrap it, or keep it zipped needs to be the motto of every sexually-active single female in the nation, and every couple relying on them for BC.
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Originally Posted by Adanch
IFF (03-03-2012)
So, what are you doing about it? Assuming you're as "mad" as you say.
This morning, radio commentator Rush Limbaugh said that out of sympathy for the financial straits these women are finding themselves in, he would volunteer to pay for as much aspirin as they wanted, for contraceptive purposes.
There, he's reaching out and offering help. And in the most practical, effective way possible. How about you?
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"The social contract exists so that everyone doesn’t have to squat in the dust holding a spear to protect his woman and his meat all day every day. It does not exist so that the government can take your spear, your meat, and your woman because it knows better what to do with them." - Instapundit.com
You are correct, and you underline a very important fact. Women can control sex. If they say no, it ain't happening. Apparently, someone needs to remind these women of that fact. It's not fair, and I've seen the double standard applied to fatherhood. A man can be forced to be a father against his will, and he can be deprived of fatherhood against his will, all because the woman carries the child. Has anyone else noticed that all the supposed advances in womens' sexual freedom have ended up benefitting men more?
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
Rush Limbaugh is a fat drug adled assbag who doesn't need to call young women "sluts". He always is a pig, isn't he? Well this shouldn't be a problem now that college students are covered under their parents' insurance till 25.
And women are trying to be responsible by being on the pill so they don't get knocked up, and they still get a bunch of bullshit over it. Unreal.
Sparkly Mary (03-01-2012)
I use condoms. I educate my girls and my son on the dangers/consequences of sex, and not just the physical ones.
I refuse to have sex if condoms are not used.
The only person's activity I can control is mine. I can educate, but I can't control anyone.
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LOL and hilarious by the way... I love the rant about women needing to control their sexual urges. No mention of men needing to. Typical hypocrisy.
Men control sex, too!!! THEY can say no as well! WHY, oh WHY is it that it's only women who "need to be reminded of that fact"?
Go educate the men of the world that THEY can say no, too. And if THEY choose to say yes, WEAR.A.DAMN.CONDOM!!!
And you wonder why I get irritated at the double standards? You just proved it. I really thought more of you than that...
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People need to be educated on the effectiveness of "pulling out." It has a failure rate about the same as condom usage. No cum in teh pussy, it's easy.
I stand corrected. In an ideal world, men WOULD take responsibility for their sexuality. Unfortunately, ours is not an ideal world, and men have proven themselves since the dawn of humanity to be prone to boinc everything that will let them. In this instance, women really do have control.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
I suggest women can offer a choice.
1.) Here's a condom ( or, bring your own).
2.) Here's some Super Glue for your zipper.
3.) Here's an aspirin, which I'll put between my knees.
Which would you like, dear?
Problems?
(Many other choices are also available, of course. But these are the here-and-now ones.)
"The social contract exists so that everyone doesn’t have to squat in the dust holding a spear to protect his woman and his meat all day every day. It does not exist so that the government can take your spear, your meat, and your woman because it knows better what to do with them." - Instapundit.com
Oh cry me a river. Poor, poor men are at the whims of the wicked, evil women and have no self-control.
Excuse me while I cry BULLSHIT on that.
Men have just as much ability to say no as women!!!
But if you admit that, and acknowledge that men CHOOSE to delude themselves into thinking they can't, then you'd have to admit that blaming women is your BS reason to exuse your own irresponsibility.
And we all know that, THAT can't be allowed to happen.
It's much easier to demonize women than own up to your own gender's responsibility to control your urges as much as you preach at "us" to do so.
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I really, really hate having to stand up for hadit, but I think you are misinterpreting what he is saying about women controlling sex. He's not blaming women, or putting the responsibility solely on them.
Wow, this thread has totally gone down some weird, I'm a bigger victim than you path. WTF?
I represent the angry, gun toting meat eating people. ~ Denis Leary
The same shepherd that protects the flock leads them to the slaughterhouse.
This has nothing to do with "victim". Just calling BS on the "men can't control our urges and have to bone everything", because it's just that, bullshit.
Both genders have the right and responsibility to say no to sex if it's not what they want. When the "yes" is made, then birth control needs to be assumed jointly or the consequences of not using it shared jointly, which means men lose the right to have the last word.
If that's an issue for men, then they need to say no, or make sure they wrap it.
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Does anyone here wear a wetsuit when getting a back massage? Why bother having sex wearing a rubber then?
optimus (03-01-2012)
Yes they can, and many do. You have to admit, however, that throughout the history of mankind, women HAVE held both the throttle and the brake when it comes to consensual sexuality.
I fully agree with the idea that a man and a women should agree on whether contraception is used and who will provide it before getting down and dirty. In the case of these women, they are going to the wrong party to get their contraception paid for.Both genders have the right and responsibility to say no to sex if it's not what they want. When the "yes" is made, then birth control needs to be assumed jointly or the consequences of not using it shared jointly, which means men lose the right to have the last word.
If that's an issue for men, then they need to say no, or make sure they wrap it.
1. They could pay for it themselves and stop complaining.
2. They could insist on BYOC when boinking.
3. They could prioritize things in their lives so they can afford the level of boinking they wish to maintain.
They should NOT, however, ask the government to force everyone else to subsidize their sex lives.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
Fallacy: Just because men can refuse sex doesn't mean that men have control over sex.
I think this is the one domain that everyone can agree that women do "own." Men might have financial power over women, but sexual power? Give me a break. Even with my rather large and gigantic genitalia I know that women still make the final decision to have sex, not me.
Still, it does take two to tango.
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jwreck (03-01-2012)
I guess. I just look at it as it's a mutual decision between the parties. Granted, I do have the utmost respect for men who put up with teases and accept that without question. It's becuase I don't understand the "cock tease" that leads me to think it's a mutual decision.
As a single female, even though I don't seek out partners, I still keep my own protection with me at all times. I don't want to have to decline simply due to the lack of a condom. Of course, I'm bold enough that I make it very clear that condoms aren't an option, and if that's not acceptable, then there's not going to be any action.
So in that instance, yes I do control the sex, but it's not out of a power play, but out of self-protection.
BTW, hadit, that's always been my philosopy. I take birth control and protection very seriously.
Now that I can't have more kids, it's the protection from disease and not birth control that is my motivation and I do keep my own stash. On that I agree with you, but I still don't think it's one gender's sole responsibility. Men can keep a stash, too.
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