How does the absence of a deity

[Freedom&Liberty]

make liberalism better than Christianity?

[BooRadley]

make liberalism better than Christianity?

False, and stupid, dichotomy. There are a lot of liberals who believe in some deity or another. Ergo, your question is just as stupid as it usually is.

[optimus]

Ok, I think I've just about had it it with Freedom & Liberty. I simply can't handle it anymore. Welcome to my ignore list, F&L.

[antiquity]

False, and stupid, dichotomy. There are a lot of liberals who believe in some deity or another. Ergo, your question is just as stupid as it usually is.

Interesting, not your characterization of F&L as out of you that was expected but your saying some deity or another....I didn't know there were more than one deity as in the OP context to Christianity?
Does 'another' deity as Rick Santorum mentioned recently is what Obama believes in?

[BooRadley]

Interesting, not your characterization of F&L as out of you that was expected but your saying some deity or another....I didn't know there were more than one deity as in the OP context to Christianity?
Does 'another' deity as Rick Santorum mentioned recently is what Obama believes in?

First of all, the OP said "the absence of a deity", not "the absence of the specific deity described in 3,700 year old mideastern tribal lore." Second of all, it still doesn't matter, because there are a lot of liberals who believe in that specific deity, as well.

"Christianity" is not only practised as "Right-wing political pseudo-christianity". It's also practised as actual Christianity, which, at the heart of it, is a pretty liberal religion in any sane interpretation.

[Freedom&Liberty]

False, and stupid, dichotomy. There are a lot of liberals who believe in some deity or another. Ergo, your question is just as stupid as it usually is.

Most liberals claim to be atheists, as in no deity. They also constantly claim moral superiority over all religions and aren't ashamed to use that to get what they want out of government. If Christians did what liberals do, what would you do, Boo?

[BooRadley]

Most liberals claim to be atheists, as in no deity.

http://religions.pewforum.org/reports http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/co...cal-group.aspx

About 2% of Americans are atheists. About 20% of Americans are liberals. You == Fail.

[Freedom&Liberty]

A liberal Christian is pretty much an atheist.
Now, answer the question -

Liberals constantly claim that their ideology is moral superior to religion and they aren't ashamed to use that perceived superiority to get what they want out of government. If Christians did what liberals do, what would you do, Boo?

[BooRadley]

A liberal Christian is pretty much an atheist.

So, basically, when you hear someone say something you disagree with, you just ignore what they say they think and start assigning your own prejudices to them, because you just love flailing strawmen?

Liberals constantly claim that their ideology is moral superior to religion

See above and I bet we'll know where you go this from: You ignored whatever they said and assigned your own prejudices to them. Anyway . . .

If Christians did what liberals do, what would you do, Boo?

If Right-wing political pseudo-Christians did what you assume liberals do, what would I do? Well, considering that Right-wing political pseudo-Christians never stop doing that, you can tell what I'd do by what I do: Debate them in an attempt to demonstrate to onlookers how weak and flawed their insane, illogical and horribly misinformed arguments are, and vote for candidate who will oppose the creeping advancement of their bizarre homogenised political religion of theocratic corporate fascism. That's what I'd do.

[lily]

Yeah, I have to agree that the question in the OP is based on false assumptions. It could've been worded differently.

[Freedom&Liberty]

I don't think so. From a political perspective, even really dumb, completely unconstitutional liberal morals have a tendency to become law. Conservative morals are pushed aside because of the first amendment. The main difference is that liberalism has no deity.

[BooRadley]

Conservative morals are pushed aside because of the first amendment.

That's because you keep trying to make religious law, and the US is not, has never been, and will never be a theocracy. Religion is a personal matter. If gay marriage is against your religion, then don't get gay married. If your religion requires you to pray, then pray. Stop trying to use the government to force other people to live by your religious law.

[Freedom&Liberty]

So, basically, when you hear someone say something you disagree with, you just ignore what they say they think and start assigning your own prejudices to them, because you just love flailing strawmen?

No. Liberals are pro-choice, don't believe the bible is the word of God and don't believe in a virgin birth, rarely go to church, etc. Anyone can self identify as anything on a poll.

If Right-wing political pseudo-Christians did what you assume liberals do, what would I do? Well, considering that Right-wing political pseudo-Christians never stop doing that, you can tell what I'd do by what I do: Debate them in an attempt to demonstrate to onlookers how weak and flawed their insane, illogical and horribly misinformed arguments are, and vote for candidate who will oppose the creeping advancement of their bizarre homogenised political religion of theocratic corporate fascism. That's what I'd do.

Exactly. You'd claim that your religion was superior. So superior in fact that you believe it should be rammed down everyone's throat and used to form public policy. And the only reason that's deemed acceptable is because liberalism has no deity.

[AlbertJ]

F&L is satanic

[Freedom&Liberty]

That's because you keep trying to make religious law, and the US is not, has never been, and will never be a theocracy. Religion is a personal matter. If gay marriage is against your religion, then don't get gay married. If your religion requires you to pray, then pray. Stop trying to use the government to force other people to live by your religious law.

If your religion requires you to plan for retirement and healthcare, then plan for retirement and healthcare. Stop trying to use the government to force other people to live by YOUR religious law. Are you getting it yet?

[BooRadley]

If your religion requires you to plan for retirement and healthcare, then plan for retirement and healthcare. Stop trying to use the government to force other people to live by YOUR religious law. Are you getting it yet?

It's not about religion, it's about maintenance of an advanced civilization. If you want to live in a broken-down, backward, barbaric theocracy, there are plenty of them in the world. We're not going to stand down and let you people destroy our civilization as a way to vent your bitter vindictive anger.

Investing in social maintenance profits the whole nation. It's not religion, it's just planning to maintain a civilization for longer than one generation.

[jwreck]

The thing is, the basic principles of christianity are a good idea. As are the basic principles of most religions. Its when they move beyond the basic principles that I have issues. Christians have this really fucking annoying habit of not only telling you how great it is to be christian, but how bad it is to be not christian. So you can take your deity, lack of deity, and everything in between and stick it where the sun don't shine and leave me the fuck alone. How about that?

[Freedom&Liberty]

It's not about religion, it's about maintenance of an advanced civilization. If you want to live in a broken-down, backward, barbaric theocracy, there are plenty of them in the world. We're not going to stand down and let you people destroy our civilization as a way to vent your bitter vindictive anger.

Investing in social maintenance profits the whole nation. It's not religion, it's just planning to maintain a civilization for longer than one generation.

Now that you've described the goal of your religion, why should anyone have faith that you can provide it? History certainly isn't on your side.

[Šñøü†ê®]

The correlation between leftism "aetheism" is really another angle of zionism undermining the West. Most rational people will admit they don't know how the world came into being. But rational people also realize the middle east mythology is ridiculously preposterous in regards to anything spiritual and universal.

F&L is satanic

According to the Bible satan is the "god" of this world so that is a compliment from a Biblical standpoint!

[BooRadley]

Now that you've described the goal of your religion, why should anyone have faith that you can provide it?

Because there are basically only two sides in the fight. One side is arguing how to maintain our civilization, and the other side is arguing about whether or not evolution should be taught in biology class. That being the case, our side keeps winning on social issues, because your side is completely fucking insane.